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How did Trump Overcome Genital Grabbing Scandal?

celticwar17 said:
I mean.... it wasn't a public statement... to me, it just sounded like a private raunchy joke.... and it wasn't out of character. Donald Trump has a lot of silly film on him, and overall it just seems to be him having fun as a normal citizen, he's relate-able in that way a normal politician isn't. He was in Hollywood, not a politician, so expectations are lowered. If Obama said something like that, it would be very out of character. I don't think he would have survived something like that, nor Hillary... Bill Clinton maybe could have.
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Yes, Donny has set the bar low for those that follow. I do hope when the 2020 Dem Nominee refuses to release tax returns, cons Vets, and brags about grabbing womens genitalia the same standards are applied from the GOP. My point, standards seem to matter little, nor do promises from canidates. This will come back to haunt them in the future.
 
yankintx said:
Yes, Donny has set the bar low for those that follow. I do hope when the 2020 Dem Nominee refuses to release tax returns, cons Vets, and brags about grabbing womens genitalia the same standards are applied from the GOP. My point, standards seem to matter little, nor do promises from canidates. This will come back to haunt them in the future.
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I doubt it.
 
ocean515 said:
Other than perhaps the period when William Randolph Hearst invented new levels of yellow journalism, can you think of any time in the last 100 years when the media has been more corrupt than it is today?

I think your answer can be found in that reality, and the fallout from it.
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Once again, that particular dog whistle is only heard by the right wing to begin with. And the logical deduction then is that people did not believe the Trump tape because it came from the media? Do they think it was forged or something?

I have never heard such a thing before. For some reason, people heard Trump say what he said and still were willing to go past that. That is what I am asking about.
 
reinoe said:
1) Trump haters going into constant hysterics over comments that have nothing to do with politics or policy.

2) Hillary said worse things about policy.

Trump haters were so constantly enraged by non-issues that they rejected all reality. Furthermore Trump's behavior wasn't all that different from Bill Clinton's. The haters were such hypocrites and didn't realize it. It's amazing how four or five months after the election the haters are still confuzzled about why their awful candidate lost.
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It had to do with ones personal character. And in many ways that is .... or at least was at one time .... more important than some policy issues.
 
katzgar said:
there was no suggestion of any sort of affirmation one way or the other. I was taught ***** grabbers are not good people.
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It's hard to say if he even is one, sounded like 100% a joke to me... there are endless motives to assassinate his character. As far as I know, there isn't a woman that came out saying he grabbed their *****. I have heard other claims of sexual harassment. But unless there is concrete proof, I can't say one way or another.

I'm not some Trump cheerleader, I didn't vote for him, nor Hillary. But I do call it like I see it.

Bill Clinton seems to have much more credible evidence against him... and I hope you are just as much or moreso critical of him and Hillary who has protected him.
 
haymarket said:
It had to do with ones personal character. And in many ways that is .... or at least was at one time .... more important than some policy issues.
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IMHO, personal character was taken off the table with "I did not have sexual relations with that woman". Not only can you get away with having extra marital sex in the White House you can get away with lying about it too. It's not as if Hillary was of higher moral character after being caught in similar distortions of the truth. Politicians can lie, cheat and steal (even smoke crack with prostitutes) and still get elected - it mainly depends on who they are running against.
 
celticwar17 said:
It's hard to say if he even is one, sounded like 100% a joke to me... there are endless motives to assassinate his character. As far as I know, there isn't a woman that came out saying he grabbed their *****. I have heard other claims of sexual harassment. But unless there is concrete proof, I can't say one way or another.

I'm not some Trump cheerleader, I didn't vote for him, nor Hillary. But I do call it like I see it.

Bill Clinton seems to have much more credible evidence against him... and I hope you are just as much or moreso critical of him and Hillary who has protected him.
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the way you see it and reality are obviously different. Here is a list of the allegations... Full list: All the women who have accused Donald Trump of groping or ogling them - POLITICO
 
haymarket said:
Once again, that particular dog whistle is only heard by the right wing to begin with. And the logical deduction then is that people did not believe the Trump tape because it came from the media? Do they think it was forged or something?

I have never heard such a thing before. For some reason, people heard Trump say what he said and still were willing to go past that. That is what I am asking about.
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Not a dog whistle, that belongs to the left's media. I would imagine given the documented frauds the media have become, this tape of raunchy talk didn't have much impact. Unless you belong to the group of people psychologically broken by the election of President Trump, it didn't have much impact.

President Clinton screwed a young intern with a cigar in the Oval Office, among other things, and he is revered by the left as one of the greatest Presidents of all time. With that in mind, certainly people with objective minds can see an audio tape of Trump sharing crude observations is not going to get that many rationally thinking people too upset.
 
haymarket said:
To this day one of the things I find several steps beyond jaw dropping amazing is that Trump won the election despite the worst publicity ever garnered by and major party candidate which severely should have assassinated his character - and by that I mean he ***** grabbing comments that took over the campaign and must have been heard by at least 90% of voters.

What amazes me is this: I cannot think of one single candidate for either party in the last 100 years in a relatively close election who could have survived that and won. Not one.

Sure, LBJ in 64 could have done it..... Nixon in 72 would have won despite such comments. But both had such huge leads and their opponents were so marginalized that nothing could have helped them. But in an election where the difference was around five points or so in polls, I cannot see any candidate surviving such devastating publicity.

But Trump did and managed to put together enough states to win the EC and the office.

One simple question: why was this possible?
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Because there is no such thing as bad press. The democrats and their media dogs gave him $3,000,000,000 in free press. And the democrats elected a corrupt hag who was a perennial loser who could seal the deal unless her opponents died.

It was possible because the left...as usual...sold out middle America and dismissed legitimate views held by them. Standard practice for fake intellectuals.


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katzgar said:
the way you see it and reality are obviously different. Here is a list of the allegations... Full list: All the women who have accused Donald Trump of groping or ogling them - POLITICO
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I've read them all before... like I said, there is infinite motivation for character assassination. And like I've seen in many court cases, woman will lie about such things without hesitation. There was that cop(daniel?) that was sent to jail for rape, and there was like 12+ accusations of rape and over half of them were completely fake(and the rest were highly in suspect). If there is not a police report-arrest/video tape/etc. hard evidence... I cannot give them the benefit of the doubt.

Again, I hope you are just as critical or moreso of the Clintons.
 
ocean515 said:
Not a dog whistle, that belongs to the left's media. I would imagine given the documented frauds the media have become, this tape of raunchy talk didn't have much impact. Unless you belong to the group of people psychologically broken by the election of President Trump, it didn't have much impact.

President Clinton screwed a young intern with a cigar in the Oval Office, among other things, and he is revered by the left as one of the greatest Presidents of all time. With that in mind, certainly people with objective minds can see an audio tape of Trump sharing crude observations is not going to get that many rationally thinking people too upset.
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did you know clintons sleazy behaviour isnt applicable here. Trying to defend Trumps sleaziness is really an issue for you isnt it? Hmmmmmmm
 
celticwar17 said:
I've read them all before... like I said, there is infinite motivation for character assassination. And like I've seen in many court cases, woman will lie about such things without hesitation. There was that cop(daniel?) that was sent to jail for rape, and there was like 12+ accusations of rape and over half of them were completely fake(and the rest were highly in suspect). If there is not a police report-arrest/video tape/etc. hard evidence... I cannot give them the benefit of the doubt.

Again, I hope you are just as critical or moreso of the Clintons.
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you side with the sleaziness...ok then
 
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