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How can love be wrong? [W:713]

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Given that better is a subjective value, you have no real argument here.

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It's subjective only if you've accepted a hedonistic worldview. Some of us desire more than mere pleasure.

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Calling the selfish mutual pleasure of homosexual sex (or non-procreative heterosexual sex) love is about the greatest insult you can give to one of humanity's highest aims.

Before I comment on this, based upon something you said later on in the thread, are you claiming that love can only exist when procreative sex occurs?

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That is filia, and it's a great form of love. I'm in no way diminishing friendship.

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What is filia?
 
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Before I comment on this, based upon something you said later on in the thread, are you claiming that love can only exist when procreative sex occurs?

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There are different forms of love. I'm saying that sex should never exclude the possibility of procreation. Any time that end is frustrated is a spurning of the natural purpose of the act. It's akin to bulimia.

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A blow job is sodomy?

Ruh ro!
Actually yes. Anything not PiV sex is sodomy.

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You won't be laughing on the other side of the grave.

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Well I will be dead so that is true. LOL
 
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What is cunnilingus? Is that sodomy???

Yes it is.

When my wife and I die, is God going to scold us because we enjoyed oral sex???:roll::doh

That is between you and Him. For all that people try to make the Bible infallible, reality is that it is a physical object that can be edited and changed and reinterpreted and retranslated in many ways. The only true way to know what God's wants from you is your connection to Him through the Holy Spirit. Trust nothing above that.

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There is nothing in a straight relationship/marriage that those in a gay marriage/relationship cannot have.
Yeah there is. PiV sex.

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If sex isn't involved then it's just friendship.

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Well this answers my earlier question.

So by this, a married soldier goes off the combat, ends up losing his genitals to combat action, and now he no longer loves his wife. They're just friends now.

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There are plenty of studies showing that kids do best when raised by their parents. We need to stop idealizing deficient situations.

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So the children that have lost both of their parents can never be back in an non-deficient situation, according to your logic. So what? Just let them stay orphaned and in the system, instead of them getting loving homes where 2 or more parental units might be of the same sex?

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That is not what you initially correlated the suicide rate to. It wasn't until later posts that you realized your failed arguments and then shifted the goal post by widening the scope.
What's responsible if not culture?

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It's subjective only if you've accepted a hedonistic worldview. Some of us desire more than mere pleasure.

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Better and worse are always subjective values no matter what your world view is. Some might consider it a better world if we brought back stoning and parental arranged marriages.

If they are having procreative sex, do the couple in a parental arranged marriages suddenly love each other?

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So why won't you marry her?

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if she ever gets the money to lawyer up for a divorce i will

but how the would that change anything?
 
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So why won't you marry her?

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so you just want gay couples to get married? some of them do
 
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if she ever gets the money to lawyer up for a divorce i will

but how the would that change anything?
It speaks to a lack of commitment.

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Creating and raising new life is one of the most selfless acts you can engage in. Talk to some parents and find out.

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Oh, I know. I can't forget the beatific aura of selflessness that surrounded our cat when she was with her kittens. One of the lovely things about animals is that they are serious about this sex-for-reproduction-only business. In stark contrast to so many of us. It has long seemed to me that behaving like a beast brings one closer to God's ideal. Unfortunately, I find that I often fall short when it comes to living up to divine standards.
 
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Oh, I know. I can't forget the beatific aura of selflessness that surrounded our cat when she was with her kittens. One of the lovely things about animals is that they are serious about this sex-for-reproduction-only business. In stark contrast to so many of us. It has long seemed to me that behaving like a beast brings one closer to God's ideal. Unfortunately, I find that I often fall short when it comes to living up to divine standards.
Yeah, and pursuing nothing but the next orgasm is the highest pursuit one can engage in.

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so you just want gay couples to get married? some of them do
Since they by nature cannot have children, such an arrangement would be nonsensical.

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Since they by nature cannot have children, such an arrangement would be nonsensical.

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As would senior citizens getting married I guess
 
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That is not what you initially correlated the suicide rate to. It wasn't until later posts that you realized your failed arguments and then shifted the goal post by widening the scope.

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Our society's current approval of degenerate sexual practices is a part of our culture's overall degradation into hedonism.

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As would senior citizens getting married I guess
Them getting married is at best odd. Still, this wouldn't mean that those already married at that age should stop having sex. It's not as if by nature their intercourse is barren.

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Yeah, I can't think of a good reason why 60 year olds ought to be getting married.

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Love. The best reason of all
 
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It isn't? We're talking about homosexual sex. Why would I not bring up genitals?



Why are you always bringing up sodomy?

Sounds like you are talking about your religion's priests...
 
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