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How big will this year's deficit be?

rahl said:
no but I can describe the ones that actually do exist. Every time you vote for a US representative, senator or the president, you are voting in a national election. As in, elections for federal government offices. now, please stop being intentionally obtuse, and troll someone else.
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when i vote for my house member or senator, i am participating in a state election
 
Samwise said:
when i vote for my house member or senator, i am participating in a state election
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for state senators I agree. but when you vote for a US congressman or senator or president, you are voting in a national election for a federal elected position.
 
rahl said:
for state senators I agree. but when you vote for a US congressman or senator or president, you are voting in a national election for a federal elected position.
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i'm voting in a state election. there is no such thing as a "national election".
 
rahl said:
I know. You also vote in national elections, assuming you vote for US reps and senators.
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Reps and senators are determined in state elections.
 
rahl said:
you are trolling
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Not sure why you're so reluctant to support your position.

So can I in Pennsylvania vote for a Vermont senator?
 
Samwise said:
Not sure why you're so reluctant to support your position.
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I've supported mine and refuted yours. You are simply trolling now.

So can I in Pennsylvania vote for a Vermont senator?
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this is trolling, and a strawman.
 
rahl said:
I've supported mine and refuted yours. You are simply trolling now.


this is trolling, and a strawman.
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Not really. It's actually a question. Can I in Pennsylvania vote for a Vermont senator?
 
Samwise said:
Not really. It's actually a question. Can I in Pennsylvania vote for a Vermont senator?
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it's a strawman. You are implying that I said you can vote for a Vermont US senator as a PA resident. As I've never said or implied any such thing, you are making a strawman and trolling.
 
rahl said:
it's a strawman. You are implying that I said you can vote for a Vermont US senator as a PA resident. As I've never said or implied any such thing, you are making a strawman and trolling.
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So it's not a national election? Senatorial elections are state elections?
 
Samwise said:
So it's not a national election? Senatorial elections are state elections?
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asked and answered. US senators and reps are national elections. State senators and reps are state elections.
 
rahl said:
asked and answered. US senators and reps are national elections. State senators and reps are state elections.
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And these "national elections" are done on a state-by-state basis, not nationally?
 
Samwise said:
And these "national elections" are done on a state-by-state basis, not nationally?
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asked and answered. US senators and reps are national elections. State senators and reps are state elections.
 
rahl said:
asked and answered. US senators and reps are national elections. State senators and reps are state elections.
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US Senators are not elected nationally. They are elected in a single state.
 
Samwise said:
US Senators are not elected nationally. They are elected in a single state.
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US senators and reps are elected in national elections, just like the president.
 
rahl said:
strawman
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hm, which is it? does the whole nation vote for my senator or is my senator only elected by the people of my particular state?
 
Samwise said:
hm, which is it? does the whole nation vote for my senator or is my senator only elected by the people of my particular state?
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false dichotomy, and strawman
 
Are we even talking about the budget deficit for this year anymore?
 
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