Heterosexual Men Are Getting Gender Affirming Care

[Mika-El]

I have biology stating that.

No it hasn’t.

I’m not the one pretending lol. That would be the ones who reject science in favor of ideology who pretend a man can become a woman.

Biology

Of course you are pretending. To be more accurate you are in a state of denial about men who choose tovbecome women and women who choose to become men. You think if you hide behind the world "biology" your denial suddenly becomes rational.

1. No one rejects science when they engage in a gender transition. They in fact use modern medical science to help them make the transition.

2. The inherited gender of someone is the initial manner for most to define their gender identity. For a minority it is not for a wide range of reasons that could be "biological". physical, emotional, psyche related. Not all of such people but some of them will experience an incongruency between their birth gender and what their mind tells them and that incongruency is referred to as gender dysphoria. The more the incongruency the more stress it causes. For such people they have choices. They can remain their birth gender and experience conflicts that impact on their daily life in a negative way, or they can choose to ease that incongruency so they can lead a life free of such conflict. In that case as treatment to ease it or manage it they may choose a mix of one or all of the following: psychotherapy, drugs, physical procedures.

3. Your personal opinion as to how to define gender and now use the word biology to try deny what I said and rationalize your denial of what I said does not make it go away nor does you defining such people as pretending mean a damn thing. For the people who go through it and make the decisions they do it can be life or death and the pain is real. For such people all that matters is that they meet with people who do NOT judge them as you do, help them understand all the options and pros and cons of dealing with gender dysphoria.

In summary you display a response where you do not acknowledge any conclusion or opinion other than your own and deny anything in the real world that does not suit your predefined parameters of which identity someone can have.

So let me end this as my final response to you. You keep holding tight to that penis. No one is going to take it from you...well maybe Marjorie Taylor Greene. Keep an eye on her.

 

[CLAX1911]

Of course you are pretending. To be more accurate you are in a state of denial about men who choose tovbecome women and women who choose to become men. You think if you hide behind the world "biology" your denial suddenly becomes rational.

No more accurately he's refusing to pretend he's refusing to be in a state of denial.

You are insisting that he pretend that somehow you can transform a man into a woman by castrating him and giving him some drugs.

1. No one rejects science when they engage in a gender transition. They in fact use modern medical science to help them make the transition.

Fair but they are trying to alter perception.

2. The inherited gender of someone is the initial manner for most to define their gender identity. For a minority it is not for a wide range of reasons that could be "biological". physical, emotional, psyche related. Not all of such people but some of them will experience an incongruency between their birth gender and what their mind tells them and that incongruency is referred to as gender dysphoria. The more the incongruency the more stress it causes. For such people they have choices. They can remain their birth gender and experience conflicts that impact on their daily life in a negative way, or they can choose to ease that incongruency so they can lead a life free of such conflict. In that case as treatment to ease it or manage it they may choose a mix of one or all of the following: psychotherapy, drugs, physical procedures.

There's no such thing as gender identity. It's something people say to justify it's really extreme form of cross-dressing.

3. Your personal opinion as to how to define gender and now use the word biology to try deny what I said and rationalize your denial of what I said does not make it go away nor does you defining such people as pretending mean a damn thing. For the people who go through it and make the decisions they do it can be life or death and the pain is real. For such people all that matters is that they meet with people who do NOT judge them as you do, help them understand all the options and pros and cons of dealing with gender dysphoria.

You didn't define gender in fact it seems like you're trying to blur the lines between gender and sex in hopes to erase sex completely and replace it with gender. That's not going to work it's been attempted before and it never got anywhere.

In summary you display a response where you do not acknowledge any conclusion or opinion other than your own and deny anything in the real world that does not suit your predefined parameters of which identity someone can have.

Well it's a fact gender identity is ideology because you can't prove that it exists. And no matter what surgery you do you care change a man into a woman that'll never happen

So let me end this as my final response to you. You keep holding tight to that penis.

Why are you thinking about his penis that's weird.

No one is going to take it from you...well maybe Marjorie Taylor Greene. Keep an eye on her.

Yes the right wing Boogeyman that's going to put everyone in concentration camps.

 

[rahl]

It is and you deny it.

It’s a biological impossibility. Sorry.

It’s done every day by both physical surgery, medication and free choice.

Nope. As it’s not possible to do.

The fact you refuse to acknowledge it and pretend it can't be speaks to your denial of something you do not agree with.

Biology doesn’t care about your ideology. It’s a scientific impossibility to change from a man to a woman.

Quite frankly without speaking for any transgendered person who makes their choices, I doubt they give a flying phack what you think or deny.

Reality remains regardless of what they think. A man can’t become a woman.

 

[rahl]

Of course you are pretending. To be more accurate you are in a state of denial about men who choose tovbecome women and women who choose to become men. You think if you hide behind the world "biology" your denial suddenly becomes rational.

1. No one rejects science when they engage in a gender transition. They in fact use modern medical science to help them make the transition.

2. The inherited gender of someone is the initial manner for most to define their gender identity. For a minority it is not for a wide range of reasons that could be "biological". physical, emotional, psyche related. Not all of such people but some of them will experience an incongruency between their birth gender and what their mind tells them and that incongruency is referred to as gender dysphoria. The more the incongruency the more stress it causes. For such people they have choices. They can remain their birth gender and experience conflicts that impact on their daily life in a negative way, or they can choose to ease that incongruency so they can lead a life free of such conflict. In that case as treatment to ease it or manage it they may choose a mix of one or all of the following: psychotherapy, drugs, physical procedures.

3. Your personal opinion as to how to define gender and now use the word biology to try deny what I said and rationalize your denial of what I said does not make it go away nor does you defining such people as pretending mean a damn thing. For the people who go through it and make the decisions they do it can be life or death and the pain is real. For such people all that matters is that they meet with people who do NOT judge them as you do, help them understand all the options and pros and cons of dealing with gender dysphoria.

In summary you display a response where you do not acknowledge any conclusion or opinion other than your own and deny anything in the real world that does not suit your predefined parameters of which identity someone can have.

So let me end this as my final response to you. You keep holding tight to that penis. No one is going to take it from you...well maybe Marjorie Taylor Greene. Keep an eye on her.

Refuted all of this already. It’s a biological impossibility for a man to become a woman. It doesn’t matter what body parts you mutilate or artificial hormones you take. This is reality.

 

[Maccabee]

I have biology stating that.

Which biological paper says that?

No it hasn’t.

Explain this, then.

Differentiating sex and gender in health research to achieve gender equity - PMC

Effectively tracking progress on initiatives focused on gender equity requires clear differentiation between the terms sex and gender. Sex usually refers to a person’s biological characteristics, whereas gender refers to socially constructed roles ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

I’m not the one pretending lol. That would be the ones who reject science in favor of ideology who pretend a man can become a woman.

Again, explain this.

Differentiating sex and gender in health research to achieve gender equity - PMC

Effectively tracking progress on initiatives focused on gender equity requires clear differentiation between the terms sex and gender. Sex usually refers to a person’s biological characteristics, whereas gender refers to socially constructed roles ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Biology

What paper are you citing?

 

[rahl]

Which biological paper says that?

Biology says that.

Explain this, then.

Differentiating sex and gender in health research to achieve gender equity - PMC

Effectively tracking progress on initiatives focused on gender equity requires clear differentiation between the terms sex and gender. Sex usually refers to a person’s biological characteristics, whereas gender refers to socially constructed roles ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Pseudoscience with no basis in reality.

Again, explain this.

Differentiating sex and gender in health research to achieve gender equity - PMC

Effectively tracking progress on initiatives focused on gender equity requires clear differentiation between the terms sex and gender. Sex usually refers to a person’s biological characteristics, whereas gender refers to socially constructed roles ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

What paper are you citing?

Citing biology.

Meanwhile, reality remains. A man can’t become a woman, as it’s not biologically possible to do so.

 

[Maccabee]

Biology says that.

Source, please.

Pseudoscience with no basis in reality.

And how do you know that?

Citing biology.

Source.

Meanwhile, reality remains. A man can’t become a woman, as it’s not biologically possible to do so.

Again, source?

 

[rahl]

Source, please.

Biology

And how do you know that?

Biology

Source.

Biology

Again, source?

Biology

 

[Lisa]

Source, please.

And how do you know that?


Source.

Again, source?

Someone is a graduate of TikTok Univ Med school.

 

[Maccabee]

Biology

Biology

Biology

Biology

Show me a specific peer reviewed paper. Why should I believe you?

 

[rahl]

Show me a specific peer reviewed paper. Why should I believe you?

I don’t need to. Biology is perfectly clear on the binary nature of all mammals, which includes humans. It’s not possible for a man to become a woman.

 

[Master Debator]

Show me a specific peer reviewed paper. Why should I believe you?

They imagine pretending to speak on behalf of biology and reality is some sound argument.

 

[Master Debator]

I don’t need to. Biology is perfectly clear on the binary nature of all mammals, which includes humans. It’s not possible for a man to become a woman.

When biology speaks to you what does it sound like?

 

[rahl]

When biology speaks to you what does it sound like?

I know how much it hurts your feelings that reality clashes with your ideological beliefs. Reality remains all the same.

 

[Maccabee]

I don’t need to. Biology is perfectly clear on the binary nature of all mammals, which includes humans. It’s not possible for a man to become a woman.

Why do you not need to back up your claim with sources? Is because science have demonstrated that sex is bimodal, gender is a spectrum, and the two are different? Why are you arguing with me if you're not willing to back up your sources?

 

[Master Debator]

I know how much it hurts your feelings that reality clashes with your ideological beliefs. Reality remains all the same.

You know my real feelings like you know reality. We're agreed on that....

 

[rahl]

Why do you not need to back up your claim with sources?

I did. Biology.

Is because science have demonstrated that sex is bimodal, gender is a spectrum, and the two are different?

No. Sex and gender are the same thing. Always has been. A man is an adult male. A woman is an adult female.

Why are you arguing with me if you're not willing to back up your sources?

I’m not arguing. I’m simply pointing out biological reality.

 

[rahl]

You know my real feelings like you know reality.

correct.

We're agreed on that....

yes. Your feelings are hurt because your ideology runs into a brick wall in the face of reality.

 

[Master Debator]

correct.

yes. Your feelings are hurt because your ideology runs into a brick wall in the face of reality.

And that's as real as your powers of esp....

 

[CLAX1911]

Why do you not need to back up your claim with sources?

You're the one with the incredible claim. You need sources and a lot of them.

Is because science have demonstrated that sex is bimodal, gender is a spectrum, and the two are different?

I agree with rahl on this. It's the same thing and that's why there's so much gas lighting regarding it. It'll sit and talk about gender reforming care but it's strictly focused on secondary sexual characteristics that's biological and it's binary

Why are you arguing with me if you're not willing to back up your sources?

You're the one that's saying unicorns exist you need to back up your clan with sources he's just doubting you.

...

 

[Scatty Kitty]

No, it's what you're saying. You also seem incapable of following along with even simple conversation. To be expected given the inane arguments I've seen from your side.

So you're saying you have an excellent understanding of medical care... when you refer to side effects as "collateral damage"?

 

[Maccabee]

I did. Biology.

No. Sex and gender are the same thing. Always has been. A man is an adult male. A woman is an adult female.

I’m not arguing. I’m simply pointing out biological reality.

Claiming that biology supports your claim when I literally pointed out that it doesn't with supporting evidence doesn't make me the one denying biology. You want to win this argument? t
The easiest way is to provide a peer reviewed study within the past 10 years illustrating your correctness. Why won't you do that? If you do that, then I'll concede your point.

 

[CLAX1911]

Claiming that biology supports your claim when I literally pointed out that it doesn't with supporting evidence doesn't make me the one denying biology. You want to win this argument? t
The easiest way is to provide a peer reviewed study within the past 10 years illustrating your correctness. Why won't you do that? If you do that, then I'll concede your point.

Only in a world this stupid would someone ask for a peer-reviewed study proving men are adult human males and women are adult human females.

 

[CLAX1911]

So you're saying you have an excellent understanding of medical care... when you refer to side effects as "collateral damage"?

You can say side effects or collateral damage or negative externality. They're different terms for the same thing regarding different themes

 

[Scatty Kitty]

You can say side effects or collateral damage or negative externality. They're different terms for the same thing regarding different themes

I don't know how to tell you this but there's a reason we don't call it "collateral damage". It's side effects. Not the same thing. Because when we take medicine we're making a conscious medical decision. We can be trusted with medical decisions. To call it "collateral damage" implies someone is not consciously thinking of what medicine they're taking.