Herd Immunity May Be The Best Solution

[jakiejakester]

Fauci has a lot of different interests, including a financial interest in at least one company that stands to make a great deal of money from the coronavirus if the government moves in a favorable direction for them.

Prove it or stop posting lies! Why do people on this site LIE ALL THE TIME? I don't know habitual liars in my social life. Between Trump and posters on this site it's sickening and pathetic.

 

[Vadinho]

Herd immunity worked like a champ in the 1300s.

 

[Lursa]

I'll ask again...what are your sources for news that you believe the most?

Whatever sources dispute what the mainstream science and media claim...because otherwise they would have to be categorized with 'the masses' and if they didnt choose the outlier views (facts notwithstanding) then they'd have no way to distinguish themselves in life. The CT'ers have no other way to build their self-esteem than to just say 'na huh' to anything that 'the authorities' say.

It makes them feel special, like they are the exceptions. Incels have done the same thing now...creating some kind of group pride in personal failure.

It's sad that they cant/wont build some actual skills or knowledge to distinguish themselves as individuals but there you have it...what could be easier than saying 'na huh' and then inventing stuff to support it? More should try screenwriting IMO.

This is the barely coherent and grammatically inept speech of a man who desperately wants to be able to claim that he "cured coronavirus."

That's it, in a nutshell. When we do get a handle on this crisis, he wants to be able to pull out footage and declare "I called it! I said use this! I said try this! I told them to do this, it was my idea!" He's just doing it with lots of stupid stuff because he doesnt want to miss an opportunity. He's afraid 'the big one' will be mentioned and he wont get credit for it.

It's all about declaring himself the savior of the cv crisis and we'll hear all about it, esp in his campaign. (Which is basically each of his press briefings these days) --- Lursa

 

[Thoreau72]

I'll ask again...what are your sources for news that you believe the most?

Considering the absurdity and pettiness of your 2 subsequent posts, I'll pass on any effort at civil discourse with you. eace

 

[Lursa]

Considering the absurdity and pettiness of your 2 subsequent posts, I'll pass on any effort at civil discourse with you. eace

Aaaaannnnddddd /scene

:2bow:

This is the barely coherent and grammatically inept speech of a man who desperately wants to be able to claim that he "cured coronavirus."

That's it, in a nutshell. When we do get a handle on this crisis, he wants to be able to pull out footage and declare "I called it! I said use this! I said try this! I told them to do this, it was my idea!" He's just doing it with lots of stupid stuff because he doesnt want to miss an opportunity. He's afraid 'the big one' will be mentioned and he wont get credit for it.

It's all about declaring himself the savior of the cv crisis and we'll hear all about it, esp in his campaign. (Which is basically each of his press briefings these days) --- Lursa

 

[jakiejakester]

Considering the absurdity and pettiness of your 2 subsequent posts, I'll pass on any effort at civil discourse with you. eace

I'll guess then? National Enquirer? Infowars? Anything Alex Jones? Trump?

 

[jaeger19]

The ignorant who know nothing at all about voter fraud are the ones who stupidly cry the loudest that voter does not exist.

Great.. you show me all the studies that show that voter fraud is a huge problem and has influenced US elections significantly.

Cuz I got a bunch that show that voter fraud is not a huge problem and has not influenced US elections significantly. But here is your chance.... lets see your studies.

 

[jaeger19]

Fauci has a lot of different interests, including a financial interest in at least one company that stands to make a great deal of money from the coronavirus if the government moves in a favorable direction for them.

Okay.. please show how that has influenced the research on the use of masks, or how that matters to the amount of personal protection equipment that was available to providers in February, March and April.

 

[cabse5]

I never said otherwise. Ever.

You OTOH have repeatedly said that kids DONT get CV19 and dont spread it. Then you moved the goal posts and said 'healthy' kids dont get it.

YOu have been proven solidly wrong by your own sources. :lamo

I corrected with post #1500 of this thread.

I misspoke. And pointing out that only healthy children won't be adversely affected by Covid is incorrect. What I should've posted was: No child without the comorbidities of having immune deficiencies or respiratory problems will be adversely affected by Covid. That means the child can be sick with Covid but not be adversely affected by Covid unless they have respiratory or immune problems. That's the science.

 

[cabse5]

Yes, you've mispoken again and again and again. You dont get to invent the definition for the word 'adverse.' Being sick IS being adversely affected. :doh

Adverse: having a negative or harmful effect on something.
ADVERSE | meaning in the Cambridge English Dictionary​

And they've even found a longer-term syndrome that it causes in kids.

Multisystem inflammatory syndrome in children (MIS-C) and COVID-19 - Mayo Clinic




From your own source:

COVID-19 in children is usually mild, deaths rare, study says

"The majority of the children studied were likely infected by their parents. Most of the children did not have any underlying medical conditions, but of those who did the most common underlying condition was pulmonary disease, such as asthma. If you didn't know, respiratory problems in anyone of any age is one comorbidity (an accompanying illness that helps to trigger the destructive nature of Covid). The other comorbidity to Covid would be anyone of any age that had immune problems, BTW."

And here's a sad example here in the US:

Nine-year-old girl is the youngest to die from coronavirus in Florida - CNN

Why do you bring up one case (the 9-year-old girl's case) and think it's a landmark case?
Should we stop wearing a mask, for example, because one person got sick (or died) from Covid while wearing a mask? I guarantee you that's happened.

 

[Lursa]

I misspoke. And pointing out that only healthy children won't be adversely affected by Covid is incorrect. What I should've posted was: No child without the comorbidities of having immune deficiencies or respiratory problems will be adversely affected by Covid. That means the child can be sick with Covid but not be adversely affected by Covid unless they have respiratory or immune problems. That's the science.

Oh hell yeah you did! LOL And I've posted plenty that still proves you're STILL wrong. So have you! Your own Lancet link! I posted it verbatim and it says otherwise! :lamo

See post 1518 for the verbatim and proof :mrgreen:

Why do you bring up one case (the 9-year-old girl's case) and think it's a landmark case?

I didnt. The link before it describes a condition that occurs in other kids that get infected with CV19.

Not only that, I posted verbatim from YOUR SOURCE a quote that proves you wrong. :doh

Dont you read what is posted? If you did, you wouldnt be embarrassed by failure as much.

See post 1518 for the verbatim and proof :mrgreen:

Or here as well, cut and paste is so convenient:
From your own source:

COVID-19 in children is usually mild, deaths rare, study says

"The majority of the children studied were likely infected by their parents. Most of the children did not have any underlying medical conditions, but of those who did the most common underlying condition was pulmonary disease, such as asthma. If you didn't know, respiratory problems in anyone of any age is one comorbidity (an accompanying illness that helps to trigger the destructive nature of Covid). The other comorbidity to Covid would be anyone of any age that had immune problems, BTW."​

This is the barely coherent and grammatically inept speech of a man who desperately wants to be able to claim that he "cured coronavirus."

That's it, in a nutshell. When we do get a handle on this crisis, he wants to be able to pull out footage and declare "I called it! I said use this! I said try this! I told them to do this, it was my idea!" He's just doing it with lots of stupid stuff because he doesnt want to miss an opportunity. He's afraid 'the big one' will be mentioned and he wont get credit for it.

It's all about declaring himself the savior of the cv crisis and we'll hear all about it, esp in his campaign. (Which is basically each of his press briefings these days) --- Lursa

 

[marke]

Prove it or stop posting lies! Why do people on this site LIE ALL THE TIME? I don't know habitual liars in my social life. Between Trump and posters on this site it's sickening and pathetic.

Did Bill Gates Buy the CDC? | Armstrong Economics


Dr. Anthony Fauci has a $100 million conflict of interest which is why he was opposing Trump. He is in league with Bill Gates who has pledged $100 million for Fauci to play with. The National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease (NIAID, a division of National Institutes of Health, NIH) director Dr. Anthony Fauci, who was against using chloroquine, said in an interview with CNN’s Anderson Cooper, “There’s no magic drug for coronavirus right now,” and lectured, “Let me put it into perspective for the viewers .. there has been anecdotal non-proven data that it [chloroquine] works… but when you have an uncontrolled trial you can never definitely say that it works.”

I have warned that the CDC takes private money through its foundation. Gates even gave CDC Foundation $13.5 million. I do not believe we can trust Fauci in the least. The CDC nor the NIH should NEVER be allowed to be bought in this way. It is Gates who wants to inject us all with microchips. I seriously do not understand if all his money has simply gone to his head.

 

[marke]

Herd immunity worked like a champ in the 1300s.

And national bankruptcy completely altered Russia in 1989.

 

[marke]

Great.. you show me all the studies that show that voter fraud is a huge problem and has influenced US elections significantly.

Cuz I got a bunch that show that voter fraud is not a huge problem and has not influenced US elections significantly. But here is your chance.... lets see your studies.

New Jersey politicians charged in massive mail-in ballot voter fraud scheme, face years in prison - TheBlaze

Officials charged in massive mail-in voter fraud in NJ. - According to WNBC-TV, more than 3,000 ballots were set aside over voting fraud concerns in the Paterson City Council election — 16,747 were received, but only 13,557 were accepted — meaning a whopping 19%, or nearly 1-in-5, were rejected.

More than 800 of the rejected ballots were invalidated because they were found tethered together in mailboxes.

The alleged voter fraud is particularly significant in the election because one incumbent councilman kept his seat by just eight votes, while Mendez was elected by fewer than 250 votes, WNBC reported.

 

[Lursa]

Did Bill Gates Buy the CDC? | Armstrong Economics


Dr. Anthony Fauci has a $100 million conflict of interest which is why he was opposing Trump. He is in league with Bill Gates who has pledged $100 million for Fauci to play with. The National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease (NIAID, a division of National Institutes of Health, NIH) director Dr. Anthony Fauci, who was against using chloroquine, said in an interview with CNN’s Anderson Cooper, “There’s no magic drug for coronavirus right now,” and lectured, “Let me put it into perspective for the viewers .. there has been anecdotal non-proven data that it [chloroquine] works… but when you have an uncontrolled trial you can never definitely say that it works.”

I have warned that the CDC takes private money through its foundation. Gates even gave CDC Foundation $13.5 million. I do not believe we can trust Fauci in the least. The CDC nor the NIH should NEVER be allowed to be bought in this way. It is Gates who wants to inject us all with microchips. I seriously do not understand if all his money has simply gone to his head.

There is no source for that opinion piece. None. Where is the paper trail? Where is the proof?

It's complete garbage unless sourced. Also, it's completely false that BillG wants to inject us all with microchips. Source that please? I worked at the Gates Foundation for 2 yrs...your 'source' is full of BS. Please actually link to the facts on the $$ exchange.

This is the barely coherent and grammatically inept speech of a man who desperately wants to be able to claim that he "cured coronavirus."

That's it, in a nutshell. When we do get a handle on this crisis, he wants to be able to pull out footage and declare "I called it! I said use this! I said try this! I told them to do this, it was my idea!" He's just doing it with lots of stupid stuff because he doesnt want to miss an opportunity. He's afraid 'the big one' will be mentioned and he wont get credit for it.

It's all about declaring himself the savior of the cv crisis and we'll hear all about it, esp in his campaign. (Which is basically each of his press briefings these days) --- Lursa

 

[Craig234]

"A little knowledge is dangerous" is very applicable.

 

[marke]

There is no source for that opinion piece. None. Where is the paper trail? Where is the proof?

It's complete garbage unless sourced. Also, it's completely false that BillG wants to inject us all with microchips. Source that please? I worked at the Gates Foundation for 2 yrs...your 'source' is full of BS. Please actually link to the facts on the $$ exchange.

Let's assume you don't know who all Fauci is involved with. That means you cannot refute reports like this, even though you can do research on your own to try to refute the report:

DOES DR. FAUCI HAVE A CONFLICT OF INTERESTS? - C-VINE Network

The large investors in UNITAID include WHO, George Soros, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation and a partnership relationship with the Clinton Health Access Initiative. Both Drs. Fauci and Birx are associated with the Clinton Health Access Initiative.

The one person behind the promotion of Gilead’s remdesivir is the doctor who has worked with Gilead for a long time, Dr. Fauci. He also has downplayed and criticized the use of the much cheaper drug hydroxychloroquine:

Can there be any uncertainty as to why Dr. Fauci, who worked closely with Gilead, is strongly promoting its more expensive and less effective medication, which has already failed against Ebola, over a readily available, markedly affordable medication with a 91% success rate?

 

[Torus34]

Re: The topic statement.

We in the United States of America have had generations to reach 'herd immunity' for influenza.

The modifier, 'It depends,' is humbly suggested.

 

[Paradoxical]

Let's assume you don't know who all Fauci is involved with. That means you cannot refute reports like this, even though you can do research on your own to try to refute the report:

DOES DR. FAUCI HAVE A CONFLICT OF INTERESTS? - C-VINE Network


The large investors in UNITAID include WHO, George Soros, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation and a partnership relationship with the Clinton Health Access Initiative. Both Drs. Fauci and Birx are associated with the Clinton Health Access Initiative.

The one person behind the promotion of Gilead’s remdesivir is the doctor who has worked with Gilead for a long time, Dr. Fauci. He also has downplayed and criticized the use of the much cheaper drug hydroxychloroquine:

Can there be any uncertainty as to why Dr. Fauci, who worked closely with Gilead, is strongly promoting its more expensive and less effective medication, which has already failed against Ebola, over a readily available, markedly affordable medication with a 91% success rate?

These people don’t like facts.

 

[Vadinho]

And national bankruptcy completely altered Russia in 1989.

And a meteor killed all the dinosaurs.

 

[jaeger19]

New Jersey politicians charged in massive mail-in ballot voter fraud scheme, face years in prison - TheBlaze

Officials charged in massive mail-in voter fraud in NJ. - According to WNBC-TV, more than 3,000 ballots were set aside over voting fraud concerns in the Paterson City Council election — 16,747 were received, but only 13,557 were accepted — meaning a whopping 19%, or nearly 1-in-5, were rejected.

More than 800 of the rejected ballots were invalidated because they were found tethered together in mailboxes.

The alleged voter fraud is particularly significant in the election because one incumbent councilman kept his seat by just eight votes, while Mendez was elected by fewer than 250 votes, WNBC reported.

BWWAAAAH... you need to read the whole article.

Here some reading for you.

http://www.projectvote.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/Politics_of_Voter_Fraud_Final.pdf

Resources on Voter Fraud Claims | Brennan Center for Justice

 

[jaeger19]

New Jersey politicians charged in massive mail-in ballot voter fraud scheme, face years in prison - TheBlaze

Officials charged in massive mail-in voter fraud in NJ. - According to WNBC-TV, more than 3,000 ballots were set aside over voting fraud concerns in the Paterson City Council election — 16,747 were received, but only 13,557 were accepted — meaning a whopping 19%, or nearly 1-in-5, were rejected.

More than 800 of the rejected ballots were invalidated because they were found tethered together in mailboxes.

The alleged voter fraud is particularly significant in the election because one incumbent councilman kept his seat by just eight votes, while Mendez was elected by fewer than 250 votes, WNBC reported.

BWWAAAAH... you need to read the whole article.

Here some reading for you.

http://www.projectvote.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/Politics_of_Voter_Fraud_Final.pdf

Resources on Voter Fraud Claims | Brennan Center for Justice

 

[jaeger19]

These people don’t like facts.

Thats funny!!!!

 

[jaeger19]

Let's assume you don't know who all Fauci is involved with. That means you cannot refute reports like this, even though you can do research on your own to try to refute the report:

DOES DR. FAUCI HAVE A CONFLICT OF INTERESTS? - C-VINE Network

The large investors in UNITAID include WHO, George Soros, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation and a partnership relationship with the Clinton Health Access Initiative. Both Drs. Fauci and Birx are associated with the Clinton Health Access Initiative.

The one person behind the promotion of Gilead’s remdesivir is the doctor who has worked with Gilead for a long time, Dr. Fauci. He also has downplayed and criticized the use of the much cheaper drug hydroxychloroquine:

Can there be any uncertainty as to why Dr. Fauci, who worked closely with Gilead, is strongly promoting its more expensive and less effective medication, which has already failed against Ebola, over a readily available, markedly affordable medication with a 91% success rate?

Please show that Dr Fauci has had the means to corrupt the multiple studies on HCQ that have not shown effectiveness.

 

[Lursa]

These people don’t like facts.

There are no sourced facts in that link. :shrug:

This is the barely coherent and grammatically inept speech of a man who desperately wants to be able to claim that he "cured coronavirus."

That's it, in a nutshell. When we do get a handle on this crisis, he wants to be able to pull out footage and declare "I called it! I said use this! I said try this! I told them to do this, it was my idea!" He's just doing it with lots of stupid stuff because he doesnt want to miss an opportunity. He's afraid 'the big one' will be mentioned and he wont get credit for it.

It's all about declaring himself the savior of the cv crisis and we'll hear all about it, esp in his campaign. (Which is basically each of his press briefings these days) --- Lursa