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Has Bernie Sanders basically won the nomination?

Has Sanders basically won the nomination?

  • Definitely will win

    Votes: 4 6.6%
  • Probably will win

    Votes: 35 57.4%
  • Uncertain either way

    Votes: 17 27.9%
  • Probably will NOT win

    Votes: 4 6.6%
  • Definitely will NOT win

    Votes: 1 1.6%

  • Total voters
    61
  • Poll closed .
It is way too early to guarantere Bernie Sanders will win. The Iowa caucus was ruled "an effective tie" between him and Pete Buttigieg. In New Hampshire, again Sanders won more popular votes, but tied with Buttigieg in delegates. (Having a primary, where popular votes matter, gave Sanders the win.) Nevada therefore is the first true win for Sanders if you care more about delegates than the popular vote. That is where he really took off running. Now Sanders needs to keep that momentum going in South Carolina.
 
So you fail at the English language too..I am not shocked.

Where did you U do your indoctrination?

This will likely explain a lot!

I've seen you post the same lame post three times in the space of minutes.
 
538 has him at about 46 % to win the majority of delegates, which sounds about right. He is a favorite to win, but there are a whole lot of ways he could lose. Hopefully, something happens to bring him down.

I really, plausibly, don't understand what, at this point, does that, though. :(
 
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I really, plausibly, don't understand what, at this point, does that, though. :(

Candidates dropping out is the surest. A poor showing in SC maybe.
 
It is way too early to guarantere Bernie Sanders will win. The Iowa caucus was ruled "an effective tie" between him and Pete Buttigieg. In New Hampshire, again Sanders won more popular votes, but tied with Buttigieg in delegates. (Having a primary, where popular votes matter, gave Sanders the win.) Nevada therefore is the first true win for Sanders if you care more about delegates than the popular vote. That is where he really took off running. Now Sanders needs to keep that momentum going in South Carolina.

We not morons are not looking for guaranties, we are looking for educated guesses based upon evidence and logic and well rounded arguments.

Hopefully I have been able to help U.

I DO try!
 
538 has him at about 46 % to win the majority of delegates, which sounds about right. He is a favorite to win, but there are a whole lot of ways he could lose. Hopefully, something happens to bring him down.

Yeah, don't want America to end up like all the other developed (happier) nations in the world with public health care and college. Oh the humanity!
 
Candidates dropping out is the surest. A poor showing in SC maybe.

That was my hope in 2016. May it serve you better than it served me.
 
Yeah, don't want America to end up like all the other developed (happier) nations in the world with public health care and college. Oh the humanity!

Allowing the Chinese to strangle our healthcare system in two weeks if they ever got the wild hair to do so was not intelligent.
 
Warren would but Klobuchar? She'd be better off running as Buttigieg's VP, but she's from the same region.

Buttigieg is not going to make it. The only reason he ever had more delegates than Sanders was Iowa's stupid caucus system ignores the popular vote.
 
That was my hope in 2016. May it serve you better than it served me.

I am not real hopeful, but it could be worse I guess. Not sure how...
 
I am not real hopeful, but it could be worse I guess. Not sure how...

Dems/liberals love to bring up how much better/happier other developed countries are with their public programs. Now we have a candidate who wants to deliver and they buy into the corporate media fearmonging. "SOCIALISM! AHHHH!!!"
 
Dems/liberals love to bring up how much better/happier other developed countries are with their public programs. Now we have a candidate who wants to deliver and they buy into the corporate media fearmonging. "SOCIALISM! AHHHH!!!"

Where am I talking about "Socialism"? Why are you assuming motives and beliefs that have nothing to do with my motives and beliefs? Do you just have to build strawmen to be able to debate?
 
Buttigieg is not going to make it. The only reason he ever had more delegates than Sanders was Iowa's stupid caucus system ignores the popular vote.

We'll see. I'm voting for him.
 
I really haven't been following this election cycle. However since yesterday's election, I have begun to read every single bit of state polling, demographic favorability polling + the exit polling of the three states for far, and little bit the punditry. I've thought through the scenarios of how each candidate could drop out and who that would hurt and help, especially relative to what's left on the map.


I cannot come up with any reasonable scenario where any other candidate has a plausible shot at the nomination. To summarize:

1.) By the end of March, >60% of delegates will be set in stone, and it looks like Bernie is leading half of the states with high single or even double digits (including Texas and California) and basically is a very close #2 in every state where he's not #1. The remaining candidates all have failed to seriously break into wider demographics. Everyone else, except maybe Biden, will come in 3, 4, or 5 more often than not. If everyone stays, this basically decreases the likelihood of any shake up.

2.) Now then, what if people drop? Well, actually, there's a good reason Klobuchar, Buttigieg, and Biden have all stayed. Most of these candidates #2 choice is Bernie, meaning that if anyone of them drop the person who'll be helped the most is likely Sanders. Given Sanders is second choice for most of them + the perception that he's the winning candidate right now, no establishment candidate can safely drop before Super Tuesday without possibly seriously helping Sanders on Super Tuesday. They just ran out the clock on their option to do this; it's simply too late to do this effectively now.

3.) And if people drop (and they will) after Super Tuesday, it basically means whoever is left will likely be fighting against Bernie --who will have a ~3 point lead in delegates, a cash surplus, he will probably have the momentum, and has the most energized base. Oh and also all current polling shows that in all 1-vs-1 situations, Bernie beats his primary contenders.


Yes, shake-ups happen, but it's looking less and less possible as the election continues.

Never underestimate the treachery of either ruling party. All the tribalism only reinforces the decision I made close to 20 years ago to become an Independent. Both parties are hosed up and as dishonest as they can be. The two party system is completely and forever fecked. Don't bet any money on the DNC allowing the nomination process to work in a fair and unbiased way. Bernie scares the double dog hell out of the two party establishment.
 
Where am I talking about "Socialism"? Why are you assuming motives and beliefs that have nothing to do with my motives and beliefs? Do you just have to build strawmen to be able to debate?

Assuming motives and beliefs? I have seen you post here for years Redress. You go out of your way to let everyone know you are a moderate liberal. But go ahead and correct the record and tell us why you really hate Bernie.
 
I am not real hopeful, but it could be worse I guess. Not sure how...

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We'll see. I'm voting for him.

He was heavily criticized for not getting any "black support" before the Nevada caucus. Losing big there cemented fears he can't win a diverse state. Most Democrats in South Carolina are black, so if he loses big there, that is the end for him.
 
Hawkaye has done enough in this thread alone to warrant a trip to Iggyland. Nobody deserves to be called a moron just for being a liberal.
 
He was heavily criticized for not getting any "black support" before the Nevada caucus. Losing big there cemented fears he can't win a diverse state. Most Democrats in South Carolina are black, so if he loses big there, that is the end for him.
Yep, Buttigieg simple can't go all the way with his numbers with POC. He's good, but it's not his time.
 
Candidates dropping out is the surest. A poor showing in SC maybe.
Incredibly, even Klobuchar is unable to put her ego aside after her dismal showing in Nevada. I guess she has to be humiliated on ST to get the picture.
 
Yep, Buttigieg simple can't go all the way with his numbers with POC. He's good, but it's not his time.

I liked him when he started his campaign. Then he started courting corporate donors. I'm tired of the corruption.
 
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