Harris is the VP pick for Biden

[Rawley]

Not really.
Provide something..so far you have offered ****

Seriously, are you denying those are her positions? Do you oppose her if those are her positions?

 

[upsideguy]

Did you believe in science back in 2016?

The RCP numbers are pretty similar to what they were at this point four years ago.

And with one poll showing Biden +13, and the next poll showing Biden +3...people need to wake up and realize there's something unreliable about the polls.

I can't believe Hillary had to write an entire book entitled "What Went Wrong?"

I can answer in one word...Polling.

Now, as to this fantasy that 2020 will have the same outcome as 2016, let's break this down, shall we?

While, I was shocked by the Trump victory as I didn't think Americans would fall for his schtick. I should taken heed of the immortal words of H.L, Mencken.

But, had one looked at the state by state polls near the end, you could see Trump closing.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/

Trump had several advantages in 2016 that he does not have in 2020.\
1. He was competing against another candidate with low likeability. He managed to win the vote of people that liked neither candidate by 1.5 to 1.
2. He was an unknown and an outsider
3. He was perceived as a competent business man
4. He was running at a time of peace and in a strong economy so people could afford to take a chance on him

Even then, he won by less than 80,000 votes over 3 states. Those states went to Trump NOT because he got out the vote as he did no better than Romney. They went for Trump because he and his associates (including our Russian friends) worked successfully to depress the motivation of Democratic voters, particularly the black vote in those three states.

Registered Voters Who Stayed Home Probably Cost Clinton The Election | FiveThirtyEight

Since that election in 2016, however, Democrats have not stayed home, but have come out in record numbers, for the 2018 interims, the 2020 primaries and all intervening elections. This has uniformly resulted in purple districts turn blue and red districts turn pink.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/11/06/election-years-under-trump-decisive-gop-losses/

So, now we are in 2020. Trump has NONE of the advantages that he had in 2016:
1. Those that like neither Trump nor Biden are breaking nearly 5 to 1 for Biden (though few dislike Biden)
2. Trump is not unknown or an outsider. He has consistently shattered the norms of American politics and proven to be highly divisive. His disapproval rating (more important than the approval rating) is over 55% (people that disapprove of you are not your voters)
3. He clearly can not manage. He has had massive turnover of his staff and punted on taken a leadership role in managing the pandemic.
4. He is running in the middle of a pandemic that is out of control, has killed more than 160,000 Americans, and produced an economy that has produced more unemployment than at any time since the depression.

As bad as the situation is today, it is very unlikely to get better by election day. The estimated casualties of Americans are expected to be 200-250K by year end. There have already been studies that actually assign culpability of deaths to Trump. There will be more, and it will get worse.

The economy, which has been living on the high of a $3T stimulus anticipating that it would be opening up by summer is about to deal with the reality that we aren’t coming back real soon. Individual subsidies are over, evictions and bankruptcies are ahead and there will be far more layoffs (particularly in travel, entertainment, banking and construction industries) between now and the election. People will be realizing the jobs are not coming back real soon.
Millions Of U.S. Jobs Are Never Coming Back From The Covid-19 Recession
Wells Fargo signals substantial layoffs ahead

That is what is ahead for Trump. Meanwhile, he is losing by large margins in Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, that he surprising won in 2016. He is also losing in Florida (by double digits), Arizona and North Carolina. Even Texas, Ohio, Iowa and Georgia are in play. He needs a turn around of circumstance to climb out of the hole he is in. How are circumstances going to change in his favor?

How Popular Is Donald Trump? | FiveThirtyEight

I appreciate your wishful thinking that Trump will run the same plays with the same result this time around, but I am afraid the times have changed. His chances this time are slim approaching none.

 

[swing_voter]

Harris began her career in the Alameda County District Attorney's Office, before being recruited to the San Francisco District Attorney's Office, and later the City Attorney of San Francisco's office. In 2003, she was elected the 27th district attorney of San Francisco, serving until 2011. Harris was narrowly elected attorney general of California in 2010, and was re-elected in 2014. Harris faced criticism from reformers for tough-on-crime policies she pursued while she was California's attorney general.

Kamala Harris - Wikipedia



Seems like a person the Trump supporters could get behind.


Why do you think they don't like her?




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[AlphaOmega]

I will bookmark your post so I can give you a good old "told you so" after the election. What states that Hillary won will Biden lose? I think NONE. Do you think that Trump will win all the states that he won in 2016? For example, will Trump win Michigan and PA? The RCP average has Biden up by almost 7%...even Florida Biden has a 5% lead...don't forget how much Trump has scared GOP voters into believing that voting by mail is bad so they'll have to risk getting sick to vote for Trump = lower GOP turnout = Biden wins!

How many "normal" Americans do you foresee putting their financial futures in Joe Biden?

How many "normal" Americans do you foresee picking Biden to ensure police are properly protecting them?

How many "normal" Americans do you foresee picking Biden to ensure their jobs dont move to China?

 

[Pound4abrown]

Her comments saying she believed the woman who claimed Sniffy stuck his finger up her combined with her claims that Sniffy is a racist will get lots of play over the next few months. The fact that she blew her way into a couple offices will too

She never called him a racist. You should go back and watch that debate and hear her say "while I don't think you're a racist..."
But you won't because this isn't about the truth, it's a smear campaign.

 

[jakiejakester]

I think what you meant to say was "here's a Washington Post article that proves that four black female politicians are excited" :lamo

More propaganda narrative disguised as "news."

Show us proof that Black women will not vote for Biden and also show us (good luck with this one) Black women who are switching from Biden to Trump? I can't wait to read your sourced reply!

I love when posters attack WAPO's reporters (the news division (not editorial). Maybe you just don;t understand news reporting?

 

[Rawley]

She never called him a racist. You should go back and watch that debate and hear her say "while I don't think you're a racist..."
But you won't because this isn't about the truth, it's a smear campaign.

Really? You think she insulated herself with "I don't think you're a racist" preface? You've never seen that rhetorical device used before? "I'm not calling you fat, but you are the most obese person I have ever met."

 

[jakiejakester]

So what is going on in NYC doesn't bother you but a suggestion from Trump does?

What is going "on" in NYC? I'm not bothered that NYC has contained Covid to the point that less than 1% of our population are now getting infected and our death rate has dropped off the table since May?

Do everyone here a favor and do not post the BS about how many total deaths there are in NYC because you always leave out the turnaround and you fail to acknowledge the unique situation that caused the high death toll in March and April...save your fingers...no one believes you...

 

[Lursa]

LOL! The KKK TODAY are all Republicans and have been since 1965 and the passing of the Civil Rights Act...that's 55 years ago. Only someone who is clueless would suggest that the KKK are Dems today...

Inorite? Completely irrelevant today, out of time and reality.

Here's the proof: which candidate has the KKK come out in favor of and supported since 2016?

Former KKK leader endorses Trump for president again – and Tucker Carlson for VP | The Independent

Ku Klux Klan newspaper declares support for Trump - Reuters

Sincerely inept post. Who was President when the Civil Rights Act was passed? Who controlled both houses of Congress? Do you know what the "Southern Strategy" was/is?

Southern strategy - Wikipedia

"In American politics, the Southern strategy was a Republican Party electoral strategy to increase political support among white voters in the South by appealing to racism against African Americans.[1][2][3] As the civil rights movement and dismantling of Jim Crow laws in the 1950s and 1960s visibly deepened existing racial tensions in much of the Southern United States, Republican politicians such as presidential candidate Richard Nixon and Senator Barry Goldwater developed strategies that successfully contributed to the political realignment of many white, conservative voters in the South who had traditionally supported the Democratic Party rather than the Republican Party. It also helped to push the Republican Party much more to the right.[4]

The "Southern Strategy" refers primarily to "top down" narratives of the political realignment of the South which suggest that Republican leaders consciously appealed to many white Southerners' racial grievances in order to gain their support.[5"

:doh How does one ignore this stuff? It's just willful ignorance.

Why not just pretend that since Washington and Jefferson kept slaves, that all presidents still should? That's how stupid such presumptive crap 'then and now' is.

This is the barely coherent and grammatically inept speech of a man who desperately wants to be able to claim that he "cured coronavirus."

That's it, in a nutshell. When we do get a handle on this crisis, he wants to be able to pull out footage and declare "I called it! I said use this! I said try this! I told them to do this, it was my idea!" He's just doing it with lots of stupid stuff because he doesnt want to miss an opportunity. He's afraid 'the big one' will be mentioned and he wont get credit for it.

It's all about declaring himself the savior of the cv crisis and we'll hear all about it, esp in his campaign. (Which is basically each of his press briefings these days) --- Lursa

 

[jakiejakester]

I don't recall one day since November 2016 that you have bought or believed one word Trump has said now all of a sudden believe that is what he was proposing. Can you show us where that was a mandate and where it is a mandate that the President control your personal responsibility issues and choices you make?

LOL! A mandate to poison people? Are you serious? He was so belittled, laughed out and ridiculed that he didn't do another Covid-19 briefing after that one for more than 2 months.

Do you think Trump is a liar? Have you ever met anyone in real life or in politics who lies or has lied as much as Trump? Please answer!

 

[dobieg]

She never called him a racist. You should go back and watch that debate and hear her say "while I don't think you're a racist..."
But you won't because this isn't about the truth, it's a smear campaign.

lol


So if I say I don't think you're fat but you really need to lose weight it's not implying you're fat?


Don't fall for cheap word games. They make you look silly.

 

[Da Mole]

What are you on about? It's actually very Presidential to not do your job and just tweet, eat, and watch TV. Maybe throw in an hour or two of "work" where your intelligence briefings have to be dumbed down because you can't be bothered to read what is threating the country.

I don't understand your position. Trump works 24 hours a day and is always available especially to the leftist press, answering all their attack directed questions, unlike your choice who is still hiding in the basement.

 

[Luce]

I don't understand your position. Trump works 24 hours a day and is always available especially to the leftist press, answering all their attack directed questions, unlike your choice who is still hiding in the basement.

:lol:

 

[upsideguy]

I don't have the time to read the entire thread to find out, but can someone let me know if any of the other left-leaning individuals called out this poster's dog whistle of calling a black individual articulate.. I mean "Well spoken"? In fact, the entire post seems to be filled with dog whistles and makes it seem like the poster believes that it's unusual for a POC to be any of the accolades attributed to Harris.

Wow, someone has some serious reading comprehension issues. Let me help you. That string of adjectives described Kamala Harris as a boogeyman of Trump's.... something that would terrify him. I specifically said she was a strong, competent, well-spoken, assertive woman. Please note four (4) positive attributes in a string describe a woman with no reference to race, color, creed or national origin, only sex. I did not modify it with her race at all. So, really, if you have an issue here, perhaps call me out on misogyny.

If you made note of what I actually said, it was the Trump was going to be additionally dismayed because this woman ALSO happened to be black. If you actually read it correctly, nothing I said diminished her in any way. My only regret is that I didn't throw in "extremely intelligent", which she clearly is as well.

"Well-spoken" is a particular adjective I would use to describe many intelligent and articulate people. I have used in business often to describe smart people that I have interviewed. Well spoken means they have an impressive command of the English language and use command to well to convey their thoughts crisply. John Kennedy was well spoken, Bill Clinton was well spoken, Barack Obama was well spoken, Steve Schmidt is one of the most well spoken people I have seen in the past 10 years. Its a desirable attribute in leaders. Donald Trump is not well spoken.

I understand the term has been twisted to describe black people that "exceed expectations". People can't quite bring themselves to compliment them as a white person. More people referred to Barack Obama as "well spoken" than would call him exceptionally bright, which he clearly was. I did not use that term in anything close to that.

Its a rather odd comment on your part. It is as if you were trying to play word police here.... but, racism is a matter of attitude. If it exists in a person, it will show up with great consistency in voice and written word. I see it here often, but I really doubt you can find it in my writing unless you twist my words as you attempted to do here.

 

[calamity]

How many "normal" Americans do you foresee putting their financial futures in Joe Biden?

How many "normal" Americans do you foresee picking Biden to ensure police are properly protecting them?

How many "normal" Americans do you foresee picking Biden to ensure their jobs dont move to China?

I see Zero Normal Americans voting for Trump, the daughter fantasizing, ***** grabbing, porn star banging pretend Christian waving a bible like he actually reads one. But, I know he has the racist vote sewed up.

 

[Nickyjo]

Wow, the Democratic Party is running a solid anti-black ticket given Harris and Biden's history of finding anyway to send black people to prison, where white people would not, with Harris going further to specifically have innocent blacks sent to prison so she could boast of her conviction rates. Biden's opposition to racial integration to not turn our schools into "racial jungles" is well known.

Biden just confirmed the KKK is alive and well in the Democratic Party.

Obviously, you got the memo that black people didn't. You probably should go to the nearest community that has a lot of black people, put up a soap box, and preach that message. Maybe you could eat into the 90% of votes from that community expected to go their way. Trump has the one black guy who appeared at all his rallies... and Kanye. Gotta up that total.

 

[Lursa]

we know that the government responsible for COVID is supporting Biden. Think about that

A comment like that makes me think you were never a lawyer. Unbelievable.

Diseases can develop anywhere...and most countries keep outbreaks quiet or minimize them for economic reasons as long as possible. Btw, ours tried to do the same thing when we became aware of CV19. :roll:

yeah...some of us have perspective on epidemics (and the politics of epidemics as well as the science) based on years of personal study and can see more than just what 'affects' us on a daily basis or works for our personal political agendas.

This is the barely coherent and grammatically inept speech of a man who desperately wants to be able to claim that he "cured coronavirus."

That's it, in a nutshell. When we do get a handle on this crisis, he wants to be able to pull out footage and declare "I called it! I said use this! I said try this! I told them to do this, it was my idea!" He's just doing it with lots of stupid stuff because he doesnt want to miss an opportunity. He's afraid 'the big one' will be mentioned and he wont get credit for it.

It's all about declaring himself the savior of the cv crisis and we'll hear all about it, esp in his campaign. (Which is basically each of his press briefings these days) --- Lursa

 

[ettoremathedi]

Trump works 24 hours a day?

TRUMP. WORKS. 24HOURS A DAY?

The guy that spends most of his days golfing and watching tv?

271 golfing days in 3 and a half years.

 

[Diesel]

Yeah, yeah, we heard that same arrogant overconfidence leading up to the '16 election.


And if your side is wrong,..again,...it will be just that much more satisfying watching the inevitable meltdown. Something your side is infamous for.

**** the Democrats and **** the Republicans. My side is the American side. You should try it sometime. Your meltdown has already begun.

 

[Puigb]

I don't understand your position. Trump works 24 hours a day and is always available especially to the leftist press, answering all their attack directed questions, unlike your choice who is still hiding in the basement.

Trump has never worked a day in his life.

24 hours a day, LOL.

 

[Diesel]

Does he know she is not black?

Ms knee pads will not play well with cop haters, she prosecuted some black people.

When she returns your knee pads to you, will you persecute some more black people?

 

[Diesel]

Harris is just another democrat from San Fransisco who ignores the sprawling homeless camps, mentally ill eating from garbage cans, and sidewalks covered in human feces in her city, while claiming she has solutions for the nation.

It would be funny were it not so sad.

Have you ever been to SF in your entire, overly long life?

 

[Diesel]

Susan Rice is up to her corrupted ears in the Obama corruption scandal. Who else could slow sleepy Biden pick but Harris?

Most of us have the Fox News channel. If all you're going to do is repeat it, save us the scroll through.

 

[Lursa]

I love watching the people who support the serial adulterer ***** grabber who married a woman who flashed her private parts for the world to see pretend they are concerned about Harris's previous affair with Willie Brown.

The stupidity burns.

Worth repeating.

This is the barely coherent and grammatically inept speech of a man who desperately wants to be able to claim that he "cured coronavirus."

That's it, in a nutshell. When we do get a handle on this crisis, he wants to be able to pull out footage and declare "I called it! I said use this! I said try this! I told them to do this, it was my idea!" He's just doing it with lots of stupid stuff because he doesnt want to miss an opportunity. He's afraid 'the big one' will be mentioned and he wont get credit for it.

It's all about declaring himself the savior of the cv crisis and we'll hear all about it, esp in his campaign. (Which is basically each of his press briefings these days) --- Lursa

 

[Diesel]

No, she really is a bitch. As you will soon see.

Define "bitch".