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Guatemalan toddler dies in US custody

AliHajiSheik said:
I didn't choose the source, but it is clear that the story wasn't interested in that detail--that is something journalists used to do.
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Fair. To be clear, I didn't imply that of you, but of the coverage.

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eohrnberger said:
That'd seem blatantly dishonest.

I wonder what the boy's medical condition was when he illegally entered the US?
His medical condition may have been so compromised to the point that regardless of the care that he received it was going to happen anyway.
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He was very sick and in distress when he came across the border and was apprehended (literally on the north bank of the Rio Grande. He was taken by ambulance to a hospital that day, and transferred the next day to a children's hospital. So yes, the bigger question is why he wasn't offered (or the mother didn't seek) care when the child was in Mexico.

The family entered the U.S. from the border city of Juárez, Mexico, in early April. They were apprehended on April 3 on the north bank of the Rio Grande in central El Paso, Texas, according to U.S. Customs and Border Protection. Guatemalan Consul Tekandi Paniagua told NPR that the 2½-year-old boy "had a high fever [and] difficulty breathing."

A Customs and Border Patrol official familiar with the case said the mother informed federal agents that her son was sick after they were taken into custody. The official said the child was taken by ambulance that day to a local hospital, where he was diagnosed with pneumonia, and then transferred the following day to a children's hospital in El Paso. "He got worse over a month," Paniagua said, adding that the consulate was waiting on a formal cause of death before sending the child's body back to Guatemala.
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Guatemalan Migrant Boy Dies After Weeks In U.S. Hospital : NPR
 
Thanks, PArty of Life!
 
dixon01767 said:
Pneumonia is one of the leading causes of death of kids in 3rd world countries like Guatemala. What is there to justify? 3 weeks of hospitalization and care that wasn't successful? Care was better than anything he could of received in Guatemala.
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The weeks of exposure on the trip likely caused a weakened immune system and led to pneumonia . May he RIP I think we all can agree this should not happen
 
SLC said:
Sounds like you are politicizing the death of a toddler and are happy about it. Shameful :(
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Just pointing out how hypocritical conservatives are. Par for the course.
 
HumblePi said:
Guatemalan toddler dies in US custody, report says

Guatemalan toddler dies in US custody, report says - CNN

A 2 1/2-year-old Guatemalan boy apprehended on the US-Mexico border died Tuesday night in El Paso, Texas, the Washington Post reported.The child had been in the hospital in US custody for several weeks after crossing into the US with his mother, the Post reported, citing Guatemala Consul Tekandi Paniagua and another source.

CNN has reached out to the Department of Homeland Security and the Guatemalan consulate in Del Rio, Texas, but hasn't yet received a response.

The boy would be the fourth Guatemalan child since December to die after a border apprehension.

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RAICES Texas, nonprofit immigration legal services group, tweeted.

"A 2 year old baby boy ‘apprehended' by armed security forces. He's now dead. No baby should be ‘apprehended’. Immigrants should NEVER be kept in detention centers. This continues until we start treating people fleeing asylum in a humane way."

Now I'll count down the minutes before the comments saying "it's his mother's fault, she put him at risk" or "If the mother didn't try to get in our country illegally her kid would still be alive".

Go on.... let it all out, justify this death.
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You are crying over semantics?
 
Again you are politicizing the unfortunate death of a toddler. Shameful behavior on your part. And to make matters worse you were gleeful. Have you no shame?
Obscurity said:
Just pointing out how hypocritical conservatives are. Par for the course.
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AliHajiSheik said:
What monsters: "The child had been in the hospital in US custody for several weeks after crossing into the US with his mother". More people die in the hospital than anywhere else.

RIP small child.
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Did you notice the OP neglected to post of what the child died?

I bet that was just an oversight.
 
HumblePi said:
I'm not surprised one bit. An entire slew of justifications spilling out faster than vomit from a drunk
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Are you of the opinion that medicine is an exact science and every person can be saved no matter what?
 
SLC said:
Again you are politicizing the unfortunate death of a toddler. Shameful behavior on your part. And to make matters worse you were gleeful. Have you no shame?
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Why does the RNC claim to be the "Party of Life" while living, born humans die on its watch?
 
Fledermaus said:
Post #46 calls to you.
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Oh spare me the baloney. The right politicizes death constantly. Celebrates it and calls for it in some cases. No one cares about your flimsy attempts here.
 
Obscurity said:
Oh spare me the baloney. The right politicizes death constantly. Celebrates it and calls for it in some cases. No one cares about your flimsy attempts here.
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Post #46 nails it.

Political points from the death of a child is pathetic no matter who does it.

Thank you for demonstrating you are no better than any on "the right".
 
HumblePi said:
[h=1]Guatemalan toddler dies in US custody, report says[/h]Guatemalan toddler dies in US custody, report says - CNN

A 2 1/2-year-old Guatemalan boy apprehended on the US-Mexico border died Tuesday night in El Paso, Texas, the Washington Post reported.The child had been in the hospital in US custody for several weeks after crossing into the US with his mother, the Post reported, citing Guatemala Consul Tekandi Paniagua and another source.

CNN has reached out to the Department of Homeland Security and the Guatemalan consulate in Del Rio, Texas, but hasn't yet received a response.

The boy would be the fourth Guatemalan child since December to die after a border apprehension.

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RAICES Texas, nonprofit immigration legal services group, tweeted.

"A 2 year old baby boy ‘apprehended' by armed security forces. He's now dead. No baby should be ‘apprehended’. Immigrants should NEVER be kept in detention centers. This continues until we start treating people fleeing asylum in a humane way."

Now I'll count down the minutes before the comments saying "it's his mother's fault, she put him at risk" or "If the mother didn't try to get in our country illegally her kid would still be alive".

Go on.... let it all out, justify this death.
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It was inevitable that an immigrant child was going to die in US Custody, it's just math.

But that doesn't change the fact that this will be seen around the world as yet another black eye for the USA, further damaging America's reputation world wide. Internationally Trump has America looking like a boxer whose manager didn't know when to throw in the towel.
 
jonny5 said:
Again, whats the your point? What should have been done differently? Youre not offering any solutions.
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Solution #1. Do not NOT separate a 2 year old baby from his mother

Solution #2. ALL migrants, both adults and children should be given at least a cursory medical exam immediately after being detained. Someone with as little qualifications as a nurse's aide is capable of doing this. Both baby and mother should have been given a medical evaluation immediately following their capture and incarceration.

Solution #3. Flood the courts with more Federal judges to hear these cases and expedite them. Get them IN or get them OUT rapidly.

Solution #4 - do not separate babies from their mothers
Solution #5 - do not separate babies from their mothers
Solution #6 - do not separate babies from their mothers

I think it's pretty clear that I adamantly believe that young babies and young children should never be separated from parents.
 
JustHanging said:
It was inevitable that an immigrant child was going to die in US Custody, it's just math.

But that doesn't change the fact that this will be seen around the world as yet another black eye for the USA, further damaging America's reputation world wide. Internationally Trump has America looking like a boxer whose manager didn't know when to throw in the towel.
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At the very least, the US is seen as a world power that has no logical plan on how to deal with immigration. We're seen as a world power that can only be reactive instead of being proactive. We separate kids, lose those kids, incarcerate immigrants and throw them back after many months. We aren't addressing the question of 'why'. Why are they coming? Why are conditions so bad in Central America? Why are more economic sanctions only going to exacerbate the migration? In what ways can the US insert more pressure on their governments to suppress corruption and criminal mafia crimes like extortion and murder? The US is always dealing with this crisis on the wrong end of the crisis, the end result instead of the driving forces for this exodus from Honduras, Guatemala and El Salvador.
 
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JustHanging said:
It was inevitable that an immigrant child was going to die in US Custody, it's just math.

But that doesn't change the fact that this will be seen around the world as yet another black eye for the USA, further damaging America's reputation world wide. Internationally Trump has America looking like a boxer whose manager didn't know when to throw in the towel.
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it's only a black eye from the standpoint of those who try to politicize it.

Again - The woman and child were taken into custody literally on the north bank of the Rio Grande. The child was extremely sick and in respiratory distress. He was taken by ambulance to a hospital, and then to a specialty (children's) hospital the next day. He received care for his illness, but unfortunately died. AND, he wasn't even in custody at that point -- mother and child were released when he was admitted to the hospital.

So how does the treatment of the child possibly give the US a 'black eye'? If anything, I would think it gives Mexico a black eye, for allowing a woman to travel through the entire length of the country with a child who was deathly ill without receiving care.
 
Yep two died from speaks and one died of a “brain infection” and this one from pneumonia or complications from pneumonia. None of these seem like the fault of BP and exposure seems a likely fault
 
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