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Guaido and Venezuela

Does Juan Guaido have any legitimacy to be President of Venezuela?

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Guaido and Venezuela.
Does Juan Guaido possess any legitimacy to be President of Venezuela?

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Well the approach of Guaido proclaiming himself President is an iffy one, but it does seem to work under the Venezuelan Constitution, article 233 of the Venezuelan Constitution could be stretched to accommodate this stance because the 2018 Venezuela election was not a legitimate election, by any international standard, it was nothing but a show election.

Now I know Dave, you are a mouthpiece for the Regime and spread its propaganda, but since Venezuela's children are dying of hunger and dysentery and Maduro is blocking aid at the border, I have no time for your nonsense.
 
Jetboogieman said:
Well the approach of Guaido proclaiming himself President is an iffy one, but it does seem to work under the Venezuelan Constitution, article 233 of the Venezuelan Constitution could be stretched to accommodate this stance because the 2018 Venezuela election was not a legitimate election, by any international standard, it was nothing but a show election.

Now I know Dave, you are a mouthpiece for the Regime and spread its propaganda, but since Venezuela's children are dying of hunger and dysentery and Maduro is blocking aid at the border, I have no time for your nonsense.
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Article 233 does not support Guaido. Venezuela has the most observed and best DEMOCRATIC elections in the World. Henry Falcon ran against Maduro and lost to Maduro who had a 60+% majority. Guaido was not a candidate. Guaido is from George Washington U and a CIA asset, not a Venezuelan patriot. His acts are seditiion.
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DaveFagan said:
Article 233 does not support Guaido. Venezuela has the most observed and best DEMOCRATIC elections in the World. Henry Falcon ran against Maduro and lost to Maduro who had a 60+% majority. Guaido was not a candidate. Guaido is from George Washington U and a CIA asset, not a Venezuelan patriot. His acts are seditiion.
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Being from GWU and a CIA asset and being a Venezuelan patriot are not mutually exclusive. Currently Venezuela is a colony of Cuba, Russia and China. It is a true example of NAZIism. Venezuela and its people are being bled dry as a slave state to mainly Cuba in a textbook example of national socialism.
 
Fledermaus said:
According to Venezuelan law he does.
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No, he does not. Article 233 says the President Maduro must be incapacitated so it does not apply. Also the Venezuels Supreme Court rejected Guaido outright.

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DaveFagan said:
Article 233 does not support Guaido.
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In fact, it just might.

Venezuela has the most observed and best DEMOCRATIC elections in the World. Henry Falcon ran against Maduro and lost to Maduro who had a 60+% majority.
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It was not a legitimate election, by any stretch of the imagination.

Guaido was not a candidate. Guaido is from George Washington U and a CIA asset, not a Venezuelan patriot. His acts are seditiion.
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Preposterous, you are nothing but a propaganda mouthpiece for a corrupt regime that has no legitimacy.
 
DaveFagan said:
No, he does not. Article 233 says the President Maduro must be incapacitated so it does not apply. Also the Venezuels Supreme Court rejected Guaido outright.

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Article 223 doesn't apply since Maduro is not considered the president of Venezuela. An election is not binding if it is fraudulent. Venezuela's Supreme Tribunal of Justice is under the control of Maduro, and therefore has no authority. The Supreme Tribunal of Justice of Venezuela in Exile has ratified Guaido's presidency.
 
DaveFagan said:
REJECTED!

A Hall of Shame for Venezuelan Elections Coverage | NACLA
403 Forbidden 8, 2012 ... The media's behavior in the lead-up to Venezuela's elections has ... And the
electoral system's credentials are sterling—Jimmy Carter, who ...
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If you have to embrace wild conspiracy theories in order to desperately hold onto this belief, then maybe it's time to re-examine it.
 
Jetboogieman said:
In fact, it just might.



It was not a legitimate election, by any stretch of the imagination.



Preposterous, you are nothing but a propaganda mouthpiece for a corrupt regime that has no legitimacy.
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Article 233 is to replace an incapacitated President. Does Maduro look or act incapacitated. Besides the Venezuelan Supreme Court ruled Guaido invalid. Rejected.
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DaveFagan said:
Article 233 is to replace an incapacitated President. Does Maduro look or act incapacitated. Besides the Venezuelan Supreme Court ruled Guaido invalid. Rejected.
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It actually deals with a bit more than that, but you're a propaganda mouthpiece for a corrupt and illegitimate regime who's allowing its children to starve and die:

The President of the Republic shall become permanently unavailable to serve by reason of any of the following events: death; resignation; removal from office by decision of the Supreme Tribunal of Justice; permanent physical or mental disability certified by a medical board designated by the Supreme Tribunal of Justice with the approval of the National Assembly; abandonment of his position, duly declared by the National Assembly; and recall by popular vote.

When an elected President becomes permanently unavailable to serve prior to his inauguration, a new election by universal suffrage and direct ballot shall be held within 30 consecutive days. Pending election and inauguration of the new President, the President of the National Assembly shall take charge of the Presidency of the Republic.

When the President of the Republic becomes permanently unavailable to serve during the first four years of this constitutional term of office, a new election by universal suffrage and direct ballot shall be held within 30 consecutive days. Pending election and inauguration of the new President, the Executive Vice-President shall take charge of the Presidency of the Republic.

In the cases describes above, the new President shall complete the current constitutional term of office. If the President becomes permanently unavailable to serve during the last two years of his constitutional term of office, the Executive Vice-President shall take over the Presidency of the Republic until such term is completed.
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The election was not a legitimate election, not by any international standard whatsoever, therefore his Presidency is not legitimate, therefore there is no President Maduro, therefore the position is abandoned.
 
DaveFagan said:
Article 233 does not support Guaido. Venezuela has the most observed and best DEMOCRATIC elections in the World. Henry Falcon ran against Maduro and lost to Maduro who had a 60+% majority. Guaido was not a candidate. Guaido is from George Washington U and a CIA asset, not a Venezuelan patriot. His acts are seditiion.
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When opposition voters have a gun to their heads, it is difficult not to lose an election. You would give Che an orgasm.
 
DaveFagan said:
Besides the Venezuelan Supreme Court ruled Guaido invalid.
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By the way, have to lol at this when the Supreme Court is stacked or threatened into submission by Maduro lackeys.

You are a full fledged mouth piece for a corrupt regime that has destroyed its own country, where its people starve and that has no legitimacy by any stretch of the imagination.
 
Jetboogieman said:
By the way, have to lol at this when the Supreme Court is stacked or threatened into submission by Maduro lackeys.

You are a full fledged mouth piece for a corrupt regime that has destroyed its own country, where its people starve and that has no legitimacy by any stretch of the imagination.
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You are a full fledged mouth piece for a corrupt regime that is interfering in the politics of a Soveriegn Nation.
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From what I read the constitution in Venezuela says Guaido should be the new President.
 
Fledermaus said:
A Maduro packed court...

You do like the dictator types as long as they are ANTI-US...
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You mean like a US packed Supreme Court.

If it's OK here, it's OK there, but Venezuela is a Democracy, the USA is not.

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DaveFagan said:
Article 233 does not support Guaido. Venezuela has the most observed and best DEMOCRATIC elections in the World. Henry Falcon ran against Maduro and lost to Maduro who had a 60+% majority. Guaido was not a candidate. Guaido is from George Washington U and a CIA asset, not a Venezuelan patriot. His acts are seditiion.
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Which is pretty easy when you bar or arrest all of your real opponents, and a s a result many organizations refused to observe it, because well what it is the point, they are illegitimate already.
 
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