So your in favor of something passing but not in not in favor of it at the same time?I did. 'Less so in support of the bill' Answers your question. Not my fault you have reading compression problems.
So your in favor of something passing but not in not in favor of it at the same time?
No, glad to see the Senate doing the people's business. Not sure if I support this particular bill or not.
Why is reading my posts and understanding them so hard for you?
I have to admit, I'm less than thrilled with the idea of Obama and his admin being out maneuvered and out negotiated once again in the international arena once again.So you dont know if you support it or not, have no opinion on the matter, but you call it "the people's business".... Wow....
assholes, all of them.
I have to admit, I'm less than thrilled with the idea of Obama and his admin being out maneuvered and out negotiated once again in the international arena once again.
It's always about Obama ain't it? Even when it's not... it's still gotta be redirected back to Obama.
It's always about Obama ain't it? Even when it's not... it's still gotta be redirected back to Obama.
Well, who's gonna negotiate and write the TPP with the other country's representative s?
Pretty amazing when Harry Reid doesn't gum up the works, isn't it? :lamo
**** actually gets done.
It should be noted that the legislation in question is not a vote on the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) Agreement. The TPP has not been agreed. Negotiations are ongoing. Instead, the legislation concerns fast-track authority for Congressional and Senate review should the TPP be agreed. From the Politico.com story, this will be a "vote to grant President Barack Obama fast-track authority to negotiate a massive Pacific Rim trade deal..."
I have to admit, I'm less than thrilled with the idea of Obama and his admin being out maneuvered and out negotiated once again in the international arena once again.
Bought and paid for... but why the hell not when money considered "free speech" huh?
Will Congress be able to amend whatever Obama negotiates?
No. It will either be an up-or-down vote. If the deal is rejected, it's possible the parties might try to make adjustments, depending on how badly they want the deal or how large the gaps are between the arguments made in Congress and the interests of the other parties.
For those looking for the fast-track trade legislation:
The current version: http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-114hr1314eas/pdf/BILLS-114hr1314eas.pdf
The bill status: Bill Summary & Status - 114th Congress (2015 - 2016) - H.R.1314 - THOMAS (Library of Congress)
The rule (H.Res. 305) that will guide the debate: http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-114hres305rh/pdf/BILLS-114hres305rh.pdf
Contrary to misleading statements on some radio shows, the fast-track legislation is not "secret." It is available and one can read it in the first link.
What is not yet available is the TPP text. That's not because of some nefarious desire to hide things, but because there is no agreement right now. Once there is agreement, that text should be made available and, almost certainly will be published in the lead-up to the Congressional debate on that agreement. There remains some possibility that agreement won't be reached.
Wouldn't you agree that the up-or-down vote is a mere formality, since TPP is a "conservative" issue as cpwill has pointed out.
TPP has already cleared it's greatest hurdle, the filibuster in the Senate--the next vote will require only 51 votes.
If the GOP were President, the so-called "Freedom Caucus", led by Rep. Jim Jordan from Ohio with 50-70 members depending on the issue,
would already be on board and this vote tomorrow would be a formality .
Do you believe there should be this vote before an agreement is reached.
I found it interesting that Eric Cantor has entered this fray on behalf of his Wall Street Bank employer.
Eric Cantor: Democrats in 'civil war' - Adam B. Lerner - POLITICO
Btw, I put up a thread several months ago endorsing a DEM 'civil' war--it didn't seem to hurt the GOPs in 2010 and 2014 .
They do this, and I and my family are done with the GOP, especially establishment types.
So..... Does this mean the Senate should just pass laws, regardless the consequences, and regardless the understanding on them because its the "peoples business"?