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GOP confident of win on witnesses

Airyaman said:
I support calling relevant witnesses. If the GOP votes to call the WB and his/her sources, I don't care. But they won't, because unlike the House, they're not interested in turning the trial into a circus. Plus, none of the sources would help Trump, so why would they call them?

Again, I think you have your answer.
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the house already turned this into a circus.
actually those sources would 100% help trump.

your right Republicans don't want this to turn into anymore of a circus than what schiff has already created.
We have overwhelming evidence schiff says. presents 0.

this is the 2nd time schiff has made the claim of overwhelming evidence.
 
jaypatriot said:
Enlighten us. How could Bolton have "ordered" Trump to go to war with Syria, Turkey, and Russia?
A National Security Adviser can't order a president to do anything.
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That's my point.
 
ludin said:
the house already turned this into a circus.
actually those sources would 100% help trump.

your right Republicans don't want this to turn into anymore of a circus than what schiff has already created.
We have overwhelming evidence schiff says. presents 0.

this is the 2nd time schiff has made the claim of overwhelming evidence.
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If these witnesses would help Trump, why has he been blocking witnesses the whole way?
 
jaypatriot said:
Every president has a political motive when dealing with foreign countries asking us for foreign aid. Do you expect a president to give foreign aid to a country because that is the altruistic and selfless thing to do? It's called national self interest.
Trump would be stupid to give Ukraine $391 million without asking for something in return.
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Wow this is so dumb. Its as dumb as the “everyone is biased so objectivity doesnt exist” argument.
 
jaypatriot said:
Democrats hate to think of their beloved Bill Clinton as committing a real crime of perjury and obstruction of justice. He got a pass on that one. Like his wife violating national security laws. She got a pass from Comey and Loretta Lynch.

What is the real crime committed by Trump? Basically, it's whatever the Dems, who have hated Trump since the election, say the impeachable crime is.
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He didnt get a pass. What is hilarious is unlike deushewitz, you recognize mens rea which makes the both of us more qualified for his position. You guys conducted several investigations regarding benghazi over the years. Now you are surprised a president is getting grilled?
 
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ludin said:
They were called in the house and schiff blocked them. why do you support schiff blocking witnesses but the senate has to have them?
hypocrisy doesn't make a good argument.

yep the WB has a lot of questions to answer. starting with why he lied.
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All relevant witnesses republicans called testified. Hillary clinton and the bidens are only relevant to a conspiracy theory that not even lindsay graham takes seriously
 
Airyaman said:
If these witnesses would help Trump, why has he been blocking witnesses the whole way?
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The problem with their hinging on a quote from Schiff is the failure to realize that republicans already said they werent going to be impartial. Its all whining and gaslighting. Im kinda done giving them the time of day.
 
ludin said:
Did he order people not to testify? yep
that is executive privilege. have a nice day.
obtuse fallacies is not longer valid.
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And with that simple statement you prove yet again why trump loves the gullible and uneducated...

He never once declared executive.

Ordering someone to commit a crime is an of itself a crime.

And there is no such thing as presidential immunity, at least it never was until.

The cowards in the senate refuse to do their jobs, setting the worst precedent in American history...
 
ludin said:
the house already turned this into a circus.
actually those sources would 100% help trump.

your right Republicans don't want this to turn into anymore of a circus than what schiff has already created.
We have overwhelming evidence schiff says. presents 0.

this is the 2nd time schiff has made the claim of overwhelming evidence.
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The evidence presented is overwhelming, and the trump defense has been a comedy...
 
Carleen said:
There was never any real intention to call witnesses. McConnell made that clear after the impeachment in the house. The risk of calling witnesses is far too great, so acquittal is a bygone conclusion.
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Yip this Senate procedure has been a sham, if they call witnesses the american public will hear the facts live, not cherry picked clips from tbe house hearings.

In other words they will be presented with the facts, the Republicans can not have that.

They would rather go against the wishes of 75% of the nation than and take their chances...
 
Carleen said:
There was never any real intention to call witnesses. McConnell made that clear after the impeachment in the house. The risk of calling witnesses is far too great, so acquittal is a bygone conclusion.
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I don't think the Dems really want witnesses either. They are bluffing when they imply, hey, look over there! The Republicans aren't interested in learning the truth.

Schumer's latest attempt at smoke and mirrors....
Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer admitted Wednesday that Democrats will struggle to force witness testimony and additional evidence during the Senate impeachment trial as Republicans who were previously on the fence began to announce they will vote with their party.

”We’ve always known it will be an uphill fight on witnesses and on documents because the president and Mitch McConnell put huge pressure on these folks,” the New York Democrat said.

Schumer insisted that the public is “overwhelmingly on our side for witnesses” as Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell attempts to garner enough votes to bring the trial to a swift conclusion.
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Source for quotes above:
Chuck Schumer Says Vote to Call Witnesses is an 'Uphill Battle' as Wavering Republicans Come Out in Favor of Speedy End to Trial | National Review
 
GDViking said:
The evidence presented is overwhelming, and the trump defense has been a comedy...
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cool what evidence you do you have that 17 of schiff witnesses said they didn't?
you know i do believe someone start a thread on this very thing.
 
ludin said:
cool what evidence you do you have that 17 of schiff witnesses said they didn't?
you know i do believe someone start a thread on this very thing.
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All seventeen of them testified there was, rather than playing clips of cherry picked yes and no questions, bring them on live so they can decide for themselves from the full testimony.

And don't you think be questions would be different since much more Information has come from light?

If they vote against witnesses this will go down. In history as the most corrupt Republican co trees and administration of all time and it will take generations to heal...
 
Carleen said:
There was never any real intention to call witnesses. McConnell made that clear after the impeachment in the house. The risk of calling witnesses is far too great, so acquittal is a bygone conclusion.
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Boring people to death with the never-ending Democrat Anti-Trump Sham is a serious public health risk.

:yes:
 
Collins stated tonight she is going to vote for witnesses.
Romney said tonight he wants to hear from Bolton.
But the bombshell tonight is Lamar Alexander released a statement saying the House managers failed to make their case to reach the bar of high crimes and misdemeanors.

The Democrats need 4. The four they have been targeting are Collins, Murkowski, Alexander and Romney. The Dems do not have the votes.
 
MovingPictures said:
After everything the GOP has perverted, this is just another to be added to the list.

I actually want this. You know why? Because removing Trump is an easy way out for them. No, let them own the fact that they condone criminally behavior. Then it's up the voters who are going to give these senators and house members the HARD way out, where they have to watch in horror as they lose Colorado, Maine, Arizona, North Carolina, and thus their majority because of Trump, in a humiliating defeat that history will never forget.

Can't you see the headlines? "Voters to Trump and GOP senators: You're fired!". God, that sounds beautiful and it's very doable now.
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I would like to believe that the American voter understands what the Constitution was supposed to do and has the integrity to vote against those who spit on it but I look at the Trump rallies and I think that isn't going to happen.
 
3leftsdoo said:
Boring people to death with the never-ending Democrat Anti-Trump Sham is a serious public health risk.

:yes:
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It's interesting how you've decided to internally justify hiding the truth.
 
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