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Godless Liberals

jet57 said:
Isn't it kind of hard to believe that you're just going to wind up crushed like a car in a black hole and cease to exist?
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Not at all.
 
marke said:
Do you think God condemned sins in the Old Testament that He supposedly embraces today? No, He condemns sexual immorality today just as He did thousands of years ago.
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Men condemn sex that they don’t like, not gods. Gods don’t give a **** about who people ****. Why would they?
 
devildavid said:
What version of the bible? What makes that version right? What was right before the bible was written? If god exists how can anyone be godless?
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Any of them...
 
Elvira said:
Correction...the one true God, Jehovah...
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Or Allah or Elohim or El-Shaddai or Yahweh or Adonai or Abba or Zeus or Odin or Vishnu, Brahma, Persephone, Demeter, Baubo. Artemis...
 
devildavid said:
Why does the name matter? Is belief that a nameless one true god exists insufficient?
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Don't you like to be known by your name? God does, too...God’s unique name, Jehovah, serves to differentiate him from all other gods...that is why that name appears so often in the Bible, especially in its Hebrew text even though many translators fail to use the divine name...Psalm 83:18 clearly says...

“You, whose name is Jehovah, you alone are the Most High over all the earth.”

So it is appropriate for us to use God’s personal name when we speak to him or of him...
 
Elvira said:
Don't you like to be known by your name? God does, too...God’s unique name, Jehovah, serves to differentiate him from all other gods...that is why that name appears so often in the Bible, especially in its Hebrew text even though many translators fail to use the divine name...Psalm 83:18 clearly says...

“You, whose name is Jehovah, you alone are the Most High over all the earth.”

So it is appropriate for us to use God’s personal name when we speak to him or of him...
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God doesn't need a name. God is not like you and I, so it doesn't matter what we prefer. How dare you bring god down to the human level. If one believes in the one true god, what does it matter what the other false gods are called because they aren't real? How could there be any confusion?
 
Elvira said:
We use many different translations...anything else?
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So how do you know you have selected all the absolutely best, most perfect translations that are absolutely without a doubt the only true word of god? And who exactly chose these translations? Did god? Did god provide an answer book? Did he sign off on it?
 
devildavid said:
God doesn't need a name. God is not like you and I, so it doesn't matter what we prefer. How dare you bring god down to the human level. If one believes in the one true god, what does it matter what the other false gods are called because they aren't real? How could there be any confusion?
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How dare you to reduce God to an it, being known in title only...Jehovah wants his name to be exalted...in fact, his primary purpose is to sanctify his name, as is evident in Jesus’ first request in his model prayer...“Let your name be sanctified"...Matthew 6:9...

“EVERYONE who calls on the name of Jehovah will be saved"...Romans 10:13...with these words the apostle Paul stressed how vital it is for us to know God’s name...
 
Elvira said:
How dare you to reduce God to an it, being known in title only...Jehovah wants his name to be exalted...in fact, his primary purpose is to sanctify his name, as is evident in Jesus’ first request in his model prayer...“Let your name be sanctified"...Matthew 6:9...

“EVERYONE who calls on the name of Jehovah will be saved"...Romans 10:13...with these words the apostle Paul stressed how vital it is for us to know God’s name...
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If there was a god, it would be an "it."
 
Elvira said:
How dare you to reduce God to an it, being known in title only...Jehovah wants his name to be exalted...in fact, his primary purpose is to sanctify his name, as is evident in Jesus’ first request in his model prayer...“Let your name be sanctified"...Matthew 6:9...

“EVERYONE who calls on the name of Jehovah will be saved"...Romans 10:13...with these words the apostle Paul stressed how vital it is for us to know God’s name...
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Roman's 10:13 lied.
 
calamity said:
If there was a god, it would be an "it."
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Are you an it?

"And God went on to create the man in his image, in God’s image he created him; male and female he created them." Genesis 1:27
 
Elvira said:
How dare you to reduce God to an it, being known in title only...Jehovah wants his name to be exalted...in fact, his primary purpose is to sanctify his name, as is evident in Jesus’ first request in his model prayer...“Let your name be sanctified"...Matthew 6:9...

“EVERYONE who calls on the name of Jehovah will be saved"...Romans 10:13...with these words the apostle Paul stressed how vital it is for us to know God’s name...
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God wants itself to be exalted, not its name. Must have a massive ego.

Paul did not place any importance on what we call god.
 
devildavid said:
God wants itself to be exalted, not its name. Must have a massive ego.

Paul did not place any importance on what we call god.
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God's like, "I'm feeling blue. People are not exalting me. I think I'll flood something."
 
devildavid said:
God wants itself to be exalted, not its name. Must have a massive ego.

Paul did not place any importance on what we call god.
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Not true...the Bible places great importance on one's name...a good name is also important to God...

At birth a person has no reputation, and therefore his name is little more than a label. That is why Ecclesiastes 7:1 says: “A name is better than good oil, and the day of death than the day of one’s being born.” Not at birth, but during the full course of a person’s life does his “name” take on real meaning in the sense of identifying him either as a person practicing righteousness or as one practicing wickedness. (Pr 22:1) By Jesus’ faithfulness until death his name became the one name “given among men by which we must get saved,” and he “inherited a name more excellent” than that of the angels. (Ac 4:12; Heb 1:3, 4) But Solomon, for whom the hope was expressed that his name might become “more splendid” than David’s, went into death with the name of a backslider as to true worship. (1Ki 1:47; 11:6, 9-11) “The very name of the wicked ones will rot,” or become an odious stench. (Pr 10:7) For this reason a good name “is to be chosen rather than abundant riches.”​—Pr 22:1.
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Name — Watchtower ONLINE LIBRARY

What Knowing God’s Name Involves
DOES your name have a particular meaning? In some parts of the world, it is the custom to give a child a name that is full of meaning. The name chosen may reflect the parents’ beliefs and values or their hopes and dreams for the child’s future.

The practice of giving names that are rich in meaning is not new. In Bible times, personal names were usually given because of the meaning they conveyed. Names could indicate a person’s expected role in life. For example, when Jehovah told David about the future role of his son Solomon, He said: “Solomon [from a root meaning “Peace”] is what his name will become, and peace and quietness I shall bestow upon Israel in his days.”​—1 Chronicles 22:9.

Sometimes Jehovah gave a new name to a person who was to have a new role. The barren wife of Abraham received the name Sarah, meaning “Princess.” Why? Jehovah explained: “I will bless her and also give you a son from her; and I will bless her and she shall become nations; kings of peoples will come from her.” (Genesis 17:16) Clearly, understanding why Sarah received a new name would involve understanding her new role.

What about the most important of all names​—Jehovah? What does it mean? When Moses asked God about His name, Jehovah replied: “I shall prove to be what I shall prove to be.” (Exodus 3:14) Rotherham’s translation renders it: “I Will Become whatsoever I please.” Jehovah’s name reveals that he is a God of innumerable roles. To use a simple illustration: A mother may need to fill many roles each day in caring for her children​—as a nurse, a cook, a teacher—​according to the need that arises. It is similar with Jehovah, though on a more elevated level. In order to accomplish his loving purpose for mankind, he can become whatever he pleases, filling whatever role is needed. Knowing Jehovah by name thus involves understanding and appreciating his many roles.

Sadly, the beauty of God’s personality is hidden from those who do not know him by name. By studying the Bible, however, you can appreciate Jehovah’s roles as a wise Counselor, a powerful Savior, and a generous Provider, to name just a few. The rich meaning of Jehovah’s name is, indeed, awe-inspiring.
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What Knowing God’s Name Involves — Watchtower ONLINE LIBRARY
 
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