LimeLight
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just to point out; by the time of the 1930's, 'Progressivism' as a name-brand had been pretty thoroughly tarnished - actually post Wilson it was pretty thoroughly tarnished. Dewey and other leading Progressives made the concious decision to appropriate the name 'Liberal' for themselves in order to try new branding for the same movement. 'Liberalism' as we know it in popular politics today has distinct differences from the 'Liberalism' you are describing, which was based on the concept of negative rights and limiting the power of the state. Liberalism (today's version) has also begun to run into the same problem as Dewey and his cohorts did; which is why (entertainingly) so many of them are now beginning to describe themselves as "progressives" again.
now, some elements of the old Progressives have been left behind. Temperance, for example. but the core assumptions (that 'freedom' is something provided you by the state; that 'management' of human interaction is better than allowing people to run around doing whatever they want; etc) are still there.
frankly, i think this whole thread is hilarious. an entire segment of the American populace is beginning to seriously self-educate about the founding ideals and history of this country.... and all half of you can do.... is make fun of them .
well that's okay. we have something for that
Yes hence where i typed 'founded'. In no way was i attempting to compare old and new liberalism. I even said that progressives and liberals AGREE on many issues.My point is that there was, and still is a distinct difference between the two even today. As for progressives being liberal, i believe in an earlier post i said as much.
Frankly, i think todays world is hilarious when an entire segment of American populace is actually attempting to learn things on their own, instead blindly listening to a talking head on TV. God forbid they might actually LEARN ANYTHING from their personal research.
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