Georgia school district reverses transgender-friendly bathroom policy after death threats

[Lisa]

You think a pervert is going to care about shyness?


I think by going out of your way to accommodate these abnormal kids, you're putting the rest of the children at risk.

You are thinking like a guy.

That trans child is embarrassed about her body. She hates that male organ and wants it to be removed.

 

[Simon W. Moon]

You think a pervert is going to care about shyness?
I think by going out of your way to accommodate these abnormal kids, you're putting the rest of the children at risk.

Do you think that the signs on the bathroom doors are somehow protecting Our Children™ from perverts exposing themselves?

 

[WCH]

children

If that were the case we wouldn't be having this conversation. Nor would the school boards, the faculty, the parents or the students.

Pushing these progressive ideas will put everyone at risk.

 

[americanwoman]

I knew you lacked the knowledge to make a decent decision about this subject.

So you visit women's bathrooms often enough to make an informed decision.

Figures.

 

[WCH]

Do you think that the signs on the bathroom doors are somehow protecting Our Children™ from perverts exposing themselves?

Replacing it with one that says "everyone welcome" is better?

 

[americanwoman]

One or two, when the line at the women's room was too long.

You still don't understand that she isn't a crossdresser with male sexual drives.

Transgendered children and teens are not the same genders as their CIS peers. That is the core concept of what makes then transgendered. That transgender girl, even if she has male organs behaves and thinks as if she is female because in her mind she is. She wants that sex organ to be removed in the gender surgery and reformed to be a vagina. She is no more of a threat to her classmates than a classmate who is a lesbian.

I think people like WCH, and I could be completely wrong, have this misguided notion the person is not really trans but just a pervert that wants to look at females naked. Like a young school kid is going to risk everything to come out as transgender just to look at others or expose themselves.

 

[WCH]

So you visit women's bathrooms often enough to make an informed decision.

Figures.

I have a wife, two daughters and two granddaughters. Plus I've been in the construction industry [built women's restrooms] for 40 years.. I'm informed as anyone.

 

[Simon W. Moon]

Replacing it with one that says "everyone welcome" is better?

I think you are trying to make the case that changing the sign somehow increases the risk of harm to children by some unstated amount.
Maybe I am mistaken.

But if you are making that case, what is it about the current set up which prevents a pervert from entering a restroom and exposing themselves?

 

[Logician Man]

If that were the case we wouldn't be having this conversation. Nor would the school boards, the faculty, the parents or the students.

Pushing these progressive ideas will put everyone at risk.

I presume this is where the bigoted hate rhetoric and judging others resumes.

 

[Napoleon]

If they have doctors diagnosis that they are trans.

Do you often go around waving your sexual appendages in the vicinity of others? Is this a fantasy of yours?

What are you afraid of happening, which has never happened in the past when trans students used the bathroom of their gender identity? I am to the point of stating that you know know the difference been transvestite and transgendered.

I’m not afraid of anything happening. I don’t believe society should be forced into active participation in the psychological delusion of trans people. Unisex bathrooms are a reasonable compromise. And by the way, nobody uses the word “transvestite” anymore unless they’re singing Rocky Horror.

 

[Lisa]

If that were the case we wouldn't be having this conversation. Nor would the school boards, the faculty, the parents or the students.

Pushing these progressive ideas will put everyone at risk.

How is anyone at risk because a trans student gets to use the bathroom where she or he is safest and most comfortable with their classmates.
I am at the point of stopping replying to you because your fears are driven by emotion and not logic, so my logical replies to you are not what is going to get your thinking patterns to change because they are not based on facts or logic.

Until you understand that trans girls are not boys and do not see themselves as boys with males drives/urges you will not possibly understand. They are boys in drag in your mind and you are worried that they would do what you wanted to do.

 

[WCH]

You are thinking like a guy.

I'm thinking like a father, a grandfather and a husband who only wants to protect them.

 

[Simon W. Moon]

And by the way, nobody uses the word “transvestite” anymore unless they’re singing Rocky Horror.

Are they called lumberjacks now?

 

[Simon W. Moon]

I'm thinking like a father, a grandfather and a husband who only wants to protect them.

And the signs on the bathrooms doors are wards of protection of some sort — staving off the perverts?

 

[Napoleon]

Are they called lumberjacks now?

I think the fancy new phrase for it is gender nonconformity. In normal people speak, they’re just cross dressers.

 

[Slartibartfast]

And the signs on the bathrooms doors are wards of protection of some sort — staving off the perverts?

"well I was going to be a pervert here, but the sign on this door clearly tells me I have to go be a pervert elsewhere" Its idiotic on its face.

 

[WCH]

How is anyone at risk because a trans student gets to use the bathroom where she or he is safest and most comfortable with their classmates.
I am at the point of stopping replying to you because your fears are driven by emotion and not logic, so my logical replies to you are not what is going to get your thinking patterns to change because they are not based on facts or logic.

Until you understand that trans girls are not boys and do not see themselves as boys with males drives/urges you will not possibly understand. They are boys in drag in your mind and you are worried that they would do what you wanted to do.

You seem to have a problem with men and make out like you're a psychologist. Progressive indeed.

When you start assigning sex drives to children, you're over the line.

 

[Logician Man]

I'm thinking like a father, a grandfather and a husband who only wants to protect them.

You're putting the cart before the horse. As Lisa just explained, you need to educate yourself on the matter before passing judgement, simply because you are a husband, father, grandfather, or great-grandfather. Keep an open mind though.

 

[Lisa]

I’m not afraid of anything happening. I don’t believe society should be forced into active participation in the psychological delusion of trans people. Unisex bathrooms are a reasonable compromise. And by the way, nobody uses the word “transvestite” anymore unless they’re singing Rocky Horror.

Transgendered people are not delusional because of they were then medication to treat delusions that would change their thoughts. That was tried in the past and it had no positive effect. Your own ignorance and fears are your biggest stumbling black to understand and then having compassion.

The fact that the hormones and blockers that are used to treat transgendered and help their bodies transition to the proper gender put an end to any sex drives. To put it more bluntly, her penis atrophies. If she was a boy and had male sex drives then why would she want it to be cut off and reshaped into a vagina?

 

[Simon W. Moon]

I think the fancy new phrase for it is gender nonconformity.

I thought transvestites were men who were comfortable being men, they just liked wearing women's clothes.

Gender non-conformity seems to imply some additional stuff about the person's gender rather than just their clothing choices.

Live and learn I guess

 

[WCH]

You're putting the cart before the horse. As Lisa just explained, you need to educate yourself on the matter before passing judgement, simply because you are a husband, father, grandfather, or great-grandfather. Keep an open mind though.

Maybe I just don't care about coddling a micro portion of the population at the expense of everyone else. Not to be outdone, that goes for the rest of the mentally ill.

 

[Slartibartfast]

I thought transvestites were men who were comfortable being men, they just liked wearing women's clothes.

Gender non-conformity seems to imply some additional stuff about the person's gender rather than just their clothing choices.

Live and learn I guess

The correct term here is fabulous.

 

[Logician Man]

Maybe I just don't care about coddling a micro portion of the population at the expense of everyone else. Not to be outdone, that goes for the rest of the mentally ill.

Your contention is that they are 'mentally ill', simply because they are in the minority ?

 

[Lisa]

You seem to have a problem with men and make out like you're a psychologist. Progressive indeed.

When you start assigning sex drives to children, you're over the line.

I love men, as often as possible. trust me on this. Not all men are ignorant of transgendered and oppose them using the bathrooms and other gendered areas where they are safe and comfortable. What you are afraid of has never happened because it goes against the idea of being transgendered.

The child is assigning the sex drives to themselves. You are somehow thinking that a trans female's sex drive is that of a body just because she has a penis. Her body is driven by her brain, which has female aspects. It is this core mind-body incongruency of having a female personality and very female drive but having a male body or vice versa that makes a person transgendered.

 

[Simon W. Moon]

"well I was going to be a pervert here, but the sign on this door clearly tells me I have to go be a pervert elsewhere" Its idiotic on its face.

I don't get the whole idea that the bathroom is a hotbed of barely restrained sexual activity.

If boys and girls piss and **** in the same room, some adult pervert will come in and flash them or worse.