Georgia congressional candidate who touted tougher gun laws arrested for murder

[dogboy49]

Georgia congressional candidate who touted tougher gun laws arrested for murdering former campaign treasurer

Georgia congressional candidate who touted tougher gun laws arrested for murdering former campaign treasurer - NY Daily News

Makes me wonder how many anti-gunners are just projecting. They know that deep down they don't trust themselves to be armed, given their own murderous tendencies, and they conclude from this self-awareness that everyone also harbors these same tendencies.

 

[X Factor]

She allegedly shot him no less. :lol:

 

[Nickyjo]

Georgia congressional candidate who touted tougher gun laws arrested for murdering former campaign treasurer - NY Daily News

Makes me wonder how many anti-gunners are just projecting. They know that deep down they don't trust themselves to be armed, given their own murderous tendencies, and they conclude from this self-awareness that everyone also harbors these same tendencies.

Who can argue with that stunning logic? (I assume you are kidding. Please be kidding.)

 

[Crovax]

Who can argue with that stunning logic? (I assume you are kidding. Please be kidding.)

He’s not. There’s even a poster on this forum who has said that is why they are pro-gun control.

 

[Nickyjo]

He’s not. There’s even a poster on this forum who has said that is why they are pro-gun control.

Don't know much about the philosopher Hobbes, but he does seem to be channeling him. Didn't Hobbes say something about the "war of all against all"?

 

[vegas giants]

Who can argue with that stunning logic? (I assume you are kidding. Please be kidding.)

I don't think he is kidding. LOL

 

[apdst]

Who can argue with that stunning logic? (I assume you are kidding. Please be kidding.)

What other logic is there that supports the anti-gunner agenda?

 

[Nickyjo]

What other logic is there that supports the anti-gunner agenda?

For starters, the desire to live in a society where crazies can’t get guns, where I don’t have to worry about getting shot for arguing that Willie Mays was the best ever, where cops don’t point their guns at me cause they assume I am packing. The list goes on.

Europe has fewer guns and fewer gun deaths. Go figure.

But you may be right: I have so many murderous tendencies I can’t trust myself with a gun.

 

[TurtleDude]

For starters, the desire to live in a society where crazies can’t get guns, where I don’t have to worry about getting shot for arguing that Willie Mays was the best ever, where cops don’t point their guns at me cause they assume I am packing. The list goes on.

Europe has fewer guns and fewer gun deaths. Go figure.

But you may be right: I have so many murderous tendencies I can’t trust myself with a gun.

all liberal gun laws do is disarming the people LEAST likely to misuse a firearm while rarely impacting those who have dangerous proclivities

 

[Nickyjo]

all liberal gun laws do is disarming the people LEAST likely to misuse a firearm while rarely impacting those who have dangerous proclivities

You could say that about driver licenses. No desire to disarm you. Just don’t want to have guns kept from people who are criminally insane, require proper handling, keep away from kids, etc., all the things that are normal in some other countries just as free as us and more safe. But as the sign over the gates of hell in Dante’s Inferno said, “Abandon all hope ye who enter here”... i.e., into the gun debate. Issue is settled. It’s our culture: French eat snails, we eat guns. Don’t understand either.

 

[apdst]

For starters, the desire to live in a society where crazies can’t get guns, where I don’t have to worry about getting shot for arguing that Willie Mays was the best ever, where cops don’t point their guns at me cause they assume I am packing. The list goes on.

Europe has fewer guns and fewer gun deaths. Go figure.

But you may be right: I have so many murderous tendencies I can’t trust myself with a gun.

Europe has few deaths because it has different demographics, but that's changing.

I don't worry about getting shot for arguing about Willie Mays, because I'm not a dickhead and I don't worry about getting shot by a cop, because I'm not stupid enough to give them a reason.

 

[apdst]

You could say that about driver licenses. No desire to disarm you. Just don’t want to have guns kept from people who are criminally insane, require proper handling, keep away from kids, etc., all the things that are normal in some other countries just as free as us and more safe. But as the sign over the gates of hell in Dante’s Inferno said, “Abandon all hope ye who enter here”... i.e., into the gun debate. Issue is settled. It’s our culture: French eat snails, we eat guns. Don’t understand either.

Household poisoning and drownings kill way more k8ds than guns. Why aren't you hyped up about that? Is it because you don't really give a **** about kids getting killed and are only interested in bannning gun ownership? Is that desire to ban gun ownership motivated by the delusion that society would be safer, or because an unarmed populace is easier to control, in order to force your communist afenda on the people?

 

[TurtleDude]

You could say that about driver licenses. No desire to disarm you. Just don’t want to have guns kept from people who are criminally insane, require proper handling, keep away from kids, etc., all the things that are normal in some other countries just as free as us and more safe. But as the sign over the gates of hell in Dante’s Inferno said, “Abandon all hope ye who enter here”... i.e., into the gun debate. Issue is settled. It’s our culture: French eat snails, we eat guns. Don’t understand either.

Its already a federal felony to be a prohibited person with a gun. stuff you liberals push-"assault weapon bans" magazine limits etc ONLY change the legal rights of honest gun owners

 

[TurtleDude]

Household poisoning and drownings kill way more k8ds than guns. Why aren't you hyped up about that? Is it because you don't really give a **** about kids getting killed and are only interested in bannning gun ownership? Is that desire to ban gun ownership motivated by the delusion that society would be safer, or because an unarmed populace is easier to control, in order to force your communist afenda on the people?

I don't think its either. I think its because they don't like how gun owners vote or how the NRA supports conservatives.

 

[American]

You could say that about driver licenses. No desire to disarm you. Just don’t want to have guns kept from people who are criminally insane, require proper handling, keep away from kids, etc., all the things that are normal in some other countries just as free as us and more safe. But as the sign over the gates of hell in Dante’s Inferno said, “Abandon all hope ye who enter here”... i.e., into the gun debate. Issue is settled. It’s our culture: French eat snails, we eat guns. Don’t understand either.

Guns around kids is fine with proper supervision. These ridiculous blanket statements are unsubstantiated. Usual when a child mishandles a firearm, it's due to poor supervision.

 

[apdst]

I don't think its either. I think its because they don't like how gun owners vote or how the NRA supports conservatives.

You're absolutely right.

 

[Nickyjo]

Europe has few deaths because it has different demographics, but that's changing.

I don't worry about getting shot for arguing about Willie Mays, because I'm not a dickhead and I don't worry about getting shot by a cop, because I'm not stupid enough to give them a reason.

The cops in my case didnt identify themselves and three pointed guns at me. I almost floored it to be to where a uniformed cop was standing, except my partner said not to. The dickheads were the cops in this case, but they apologized.

 

[Nickyjo]

Household poisoning and drownings kill way more k8ds than guns. Why aren't you hyped up about that? Is it because you don't really give a **** about kids getting killed and are only interested in bannning gun ownership? Is that desire to ban gun ownership motivated by the delusion that society would be safer, or because an unarmed populace is easier to control, in order to force your communist afenda on the people?

Good to see that 1950s paranoia isn’t dead. Don’t want to ban gun ownership any more than backyard pools or cars.

 

[Nickyjo]

Guns around kids is fine with proper supervision. These ridiculous blanket statements are unsubstantiated. Usual when a child mishandles a firearm, it's due to poor supervision.

Gee, how could we handle that: fining patents for poor supervision. Keep repeating, we anti-gun nuts don’t want to take your gun away, just have things well-regulated.

 

[apdst]

Good to see that 1950s paranoia isn’t dead. Don’t want to ban gun ownership any more than backyard pools or cars.

Fact, not paranoia.

 

[apdst]

The cops in my case didnt identify themselves and three pointed guns at me. I almost floored it to be to where a uniformed cop was standing, except my partner said not to. The dickheads were the cops in this case, but they apologized.

What were you doing, exactly, when they threw down on you?

 

[vegas giants]

Gee, how could we handle that: fining patents for poor supervision. Keep repeating, we anti-gun nuts don’t want to take your gun away, just have things well-regulated.

God forbid we create a few reasonable laws

 

[Nickyjo]

Fact, not paranoia.

Where do you get the impression that people want to ban gun ownershipz? Would take a constitutional amendment, I assume.

 

[Rucker61]

Where do you get the impression that people want to ban gun ownershipz? Would take a constitutional amendment, I assume.

Do some GCAs want to ban ownership of some types of guns?

 

[Nickyjo]

What were you doing, exactly, when they threw down on you?

Working in a labor dispute, for the United Farmworkers Union in NYC, at huge produce market in the Bronx where we hoped to follow trucks carrying lettuce from a certain big farming operation in California. Strikers had come east to work on a boycott of the lettuce, and we convinced stores to simply buy a different brand, fairly easy to do in union-strong NY. As we left the compound past the security gate, going about 10 mph, a car pulls up on my left with four tough looking guys in it. Guy riding shotgun says "stop the car." I wasn't about to stop, as some of our people had been beaten up few days earlier. The 3 non-driver occupants pulled guns and the guy said, "I said stop the car, godammit!" I stopped as they came out of the car with guns drawn. I started to race the engine slowly, intending to jam in reverse towards the protection of the uniformed cops/security at the gate behind us. Guy with me, Oscar, said "No, Nico, esperate." (Wait). I did, and yelled at the approaching guys, who are you? "Police Officers." "Let's see some badges." One of them flipped out a badge from his pocket flap, and the tension ended. (Don't know if you ever saw the Treasure of the Sierra Madre, but the cop could have attained immortality had he said, "I don't got to show you no stinking badges," as the Mexican bandits said to Bogart in that old movie, I believe.)

Turns out their were undercover narcs, hence their shabby appearance, awakened at five am to go to stop the hijacking of the truck. The driver, in a brilliant move, had called the cops and said that "two Puerto Ricans" we're going to hijack his vehicle. As one Italian and one Mexican we fit the bill. Cops were very apologetic (one, a Puerto Rican, joked that he would have been afraid also) suggesting maybe we could still catch the truck. I muttered something about having to change my underwear, and we laughed. I asked why they didn't show their badges, and one said that last time he did that, someone almost shot it out of his hand. In reality, they could have said in typical NY style, "Police officers, asshole, stop the car," and I would have complied.

Just one of several great stories about interaction with NY-NJ cops at the time. They generally were crazy and wonderful at the same time.