George Floyd criminal record

[Grand Mal]

It also is relevant is that George Floyd was a bouncer.

The media has portrayed that an innocent black man, a good family man, was minding his own business and 4 police rushed him deliberately murdering him because he was black.

In fact, Floyd was a hardened criminal, a drug dealer, an armed criminal and robber, a thug and a tough guy. There was every reason to believe he was armed, that he would flee and that he would fight. Nor was it the police who gave him a bad heart likely due to being not just a drug dealer, but a drug addict and had covid-19, for which many progressives have ranted that covid-19 attacks a person's heart.

George Floyd's death should be counted as a covid-19 death.

With any luck the cop caught the virus and will get the same degree of care felons in prisons get.

 

[joko104]

It also is relevant is that George Floyd was a bouncer.The media has portrayed that an innocent black man, a good family man, was minding his own business and 4 police rushed him deliberately murdering him because he was black.

>In fact, Floyd was a hardened criminal, a drug dealer, an armed criminal and robber, a thug and a tough guy. There was every reason to believe he was armed, that he would flee and that he would fight. Nor was it the police who gave him a bad heart likely due to being not just a drug dealer, but a drug addict and had covid-19, for which many progressives have ranted that covid-19 attacks a person's heart.

George Floyd's death should be counted as a covid-19 death.

 

[ALiberalModerate]

Many dems thinks it's only about fake $20 bill

Anyone that would like this post is a racist. He was arrested for passing a counterfeit 20 dollar bill. He was then murdered in broad daylight, in front of everyone. His criminal record is irrelevant to that. He wasn't arrested for his criminal record. He was arrested for passing a 20 dollar counterfeit bill.

 

[ALiberalModerate]

With any luck the cop caught the virus and will get the same degree of care felons in prisons get.

What is astounding, is that the posters that write that garbage, are so lacking in self-awareness, that they claim that others are the racists.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

A person with a long history of violence you have to be more careful with. If I run a license plate and it comes back with a history of violence towards police with a couple of convictions I am going to be much more careful or even wait for back up before pulling someone over. Especially when dealing with soldiers that may be real life Rambo's. I have followed a vehicle for miles until I was no longer in the middle of nowhere but back where I had backup when dealing with people that have a history of violence. I have had my desk sergeant call me and say wait for back up with this guy. We have trouble with him before. Sorry but your history follows you.

I grant you everything but have you ever encountered a large male who had enough physical strength to break a set of handcuffs while on the ground and subdued by three other cops?

The point is, you're quoting police anecdotes but you're not acknowledging that a suspect is either IN CUSTODY or NOT IN CUSTODY.
There is a distinct definition of what that means.

If an officer is incapable of subduing a suspect and placing them in custody, as you said, they call for backup.
But in the case of George Floyd, the cop and Mr. Floyd knew each other because they both worked security at the same club, which means it's almost guaranteed that Chauvin had been well aware of Mr. Floyd's history for a VERY VERY long time before he pulled up on that curb the other day.
He knew about Floyd's history when they worked at the club.

George Floyd was unarmed, on the ground and in handcuffs, and video shows that George Floyd never attempted to fight, never attempted to be a real life Rambo. And he was "Code 4, suspect in custody"...subdued.

So those anecdotes are entirely worthless when talking about the stop conducted on George Floyd the other day.
It was broad daylight, three cops placed him in custody and then a couple of minutes later Officer Chauvin pulled up after Floyd was Code 4 already.

Utmost CARE HAD BEEN EXERCISED all the way up until Chauvin got involved.
It's likely that George Floyd would be alive today had Chauvin not arrived on scene.
It's even likely that it would have turned out Floyd had no earthly idea he had passed a fake $20.
People generally only check $100's for counterfeit because fake twenties aren't very common anymore due to the trouble it takes to make them, it's just not worth it anymore.

So it's maybe even likely George Floyd would have made the tiny bail and gone home with a court date at which time the charges might have been reduced or even dropped altogether, and we would not be in the middle of a police murder investigation.

Because once a suspect is Code 4, it is not legal to keep going with the rough stuff.
You know it, I know it, everybody knows it.

 

[ALiberalModerate]

It also is relevant is that George Floyd was a bouncer.The media has portrayed that an innocent black man, a good family man, was minding his own business and 4 police rushed him deliberately murdering him because he was black.

>In fact, Floyd was a hardened criminal, a drug dealer, an armed criminal and robber, a thug and a tough guy. There was every reason to believe he was armed, that he would flee and that he would fight. Nor was it the police who gave him a bad heart likely due to being not just a drug dealer, but a drug addict and had covid-19, for which many progressives have ranted that covid-19 attacks a person's heart.

George Floyd's death should be counted as a covid-19 death.

What white supremacist site did you cut and paste that post from?

 

[Integrityrespec]

If they don't bring who ever murdered the two black men to justice then you might have an argument.

FYI, not bringing cops who murder blacks to justice is the main reason people of all color are protesting. 'No justice, no peace.'

Should we be seeing massive protest over the white cops killed by black men committing a crime? How about black cops killed by black men during the riots? You really have a one side argument.

 

[trouble13]

Read back what you wrote. A white cop kills a black man and you claim to need proof the incident had a racial element.

Right you need proof a white to black application of abuse by its inherent nature was between colours and therefore was interracial so would necessarily raise questions of the role of perception of race in the actions.

Give it a rest. You don't want proof. You want to come on this board and deny that any relationship between races that engages in abuse automatically raises the race issue.

As for your deflection from the issue to discuss rioters why not start a thread?

The fact that rioters are a problem does not make the incident you deny disappear because you only want to discuss the rioters.

Save it. Play that with someone else.

Yah you need proof when a white man abuses a black man its not racism that plays a factor. Right.

Yah you need proof.

Why do you automatically assume its racism? Thats about as narrow minded of an opinion that can be formed.

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[Nickyjo]

It also is relevant is that George Floyd was a bouncer.The media has portrayed that an innocent black man, a good family man, was minding his own business and 4 police rushed him deliberately murdering him because he was black.

>In fact, Floyd was a hardened criminal, a drug dealer, an armed criminal and robber, a thug and a tough guy. There was every reason to believe he was armed, that he would flee and that he would fight. Nor was it the police who gave him a bad heart likely due to being not just a drug dealer, but a drug addict and had covid-19, for which many progressives have ranted that covid-19 attacks a person's heart.

George Floyd's death should be counted as a covid-19 death.

Somehow I think that even non-covid people might die if someone knelt on their necks for 8+ minutes. As I said elsewhere, go round up the Rodney King jury to handle this case.

Fact is, the four cops could have screamed “die nigger die” on camera as a handcuffed Floyd passed away, and some folks on this forum would justify it. I’m with the police chiefs and other cops who have expressed dismay and anger at how their profession was dishonored. Send your message about what a bad man Floyd was to them.

Btw, didn’t know Floyd was armed.

 

[PIPEWRENCH]

So then your history trumps your current behavior if the individual is compliant?

Your life is on the line when you do police work. You should never let your guard down with anyone. But that level of heightened awareness is not possible day in and day out. The next best thing is information about the person you are dealing with. If the information says extremely dangerous you better head the warning. Just like a mother bear with cubs you better head the warning because your life depends on it.

 

[PIPEWRENCH]

Again, the question is if what factor their current behavior plays in how the situation is handled.

Behavior plays a very important part. You let your guard down and you will end up with an ink pen stuck in your eye or worse. There are very dangerous people out there. That you better believe. Let your guard down for a second and it could be the last time.

 

[PIPEWRENCH]

I grant you everything but have you ever encountered a large male who had enough physical strength to break a set of handcuffs while on the ground and subdued by three other cops?

The point is, you're quoting police anecdotes but you're not acknowledging that a suspect is either IN CUSTODY or NOT IN CUSTODY.
There is a distinct definition of what that means.

If an officer is incapable of subduing a suspect and placing them in custody, as you said, they call for backup.
But in the case of George Floyd, the cop and Mr. Floyd knew each other because they both worked security at the same club, which means it's almost guaranteed that Chauvin had been well aware of Mr. Floyd's history for a VERY VERY long time before he pulled up on that curb the other day.
He knew about Floyd's history when they worked at the club.

George Floyd was unarmed, on the ground and in handcuffs, and video shows that George Floyd never attempted to fight, never attempted to be a real life Rambo. And he was "Code 4, suspect in custody"...subdued.

So those anecdotes are entirely worthless when talking about the stop conducted on George Floyd the other day.
It was broad daylight, three cops placed him in custody and then a couple of minutes later Officer Chauvin pulled up after Floyd was Code 4 already.

Utmost CARE HAD BEEN EXERCISED all the way up until Chauvin got involved.
It's likely that George Floyd would be alive today had Chauvin not arrived on scene.
It's even likely that it would have turned out Floyd had no earthly idea he had passed a fake $20.
People generally only check $100's for counterfeit because fake twenties aren't very common anymore due to the trouble it takes to make them, it's just not worth it anymore.

So it's maybe even likely George Floyd would have made the tiny bail and gone home with a court date at which time the charges might have been reduced or even dropped altogether, and we would not be in the middle of a police murder investigation.

Because once a suspect is Code 4, it is not legal to keep going with the rough stuff.
You know it, I know it, everybody knows it.

All irrelevant. I never said I agreed with what those police did. Nice story though.

 

[Drawdown]

So are TMZ CNN other democrat media gonna bring up George Floyd criminal record?


https://twitter.com/DeanaTurner84/status/1268006598892453889/photo/1

Not sure it really matters as to whether or not a knee should have been on his neck after he had stopped resisting.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

All irrelevant. I never said I agreed with what those police did. Nice story though.

The thread title is "George Floyd's criminal record" so what I said is 100 percent relevant.

 

[chuckiechan]

You didn't answer either of my questions.

What do "dems" have to do with anything?

They have let this become an excuse to stand by and let criminals do millions of dollars in property damage, and caused billions of dollars in lost income, purchases, and wages, and possibly be the catalyst of a resurgence of coronavirus among the rioters.

The democrats answer?”Burn baby, burn!”

 

[notquiteright]

I agree that his record isn't relevant here but neither is either of their skin colors yet you and others obesessively fixate on it as if it were. This obsession has led to millions in property damage, countless assaults on innocent people, and random homicides. People like yourself have no moral high ground to occupy.

Some people seem ready to downplay the time after time an unarmed black man dying in custody. The 'fixation' on the races boils down to white cops killing unarmed black men. Each time the anger and frustration builds. Not excusing violence, but not surprised either.

I don't think anyone is seeking moral high ground but rather it's about time to address this constant drip, drip, drip of cops killing unarmed people. Try thinking of this as working for change... eace

 

[free press]

Truth is not a left wing virtue. Which is why I push the envelope of racism to shoot my points in. And I’m willing to take a punch in the face from black person for doing my pushing. White people are good people. Black people are good people. Floyd died a criminal.

 

[justabubba]

The knee is not the cause of his death.

being unable to breathe caused his death
so what prevented him from being able to breathe

 

[trouble13]

Some people seem ready to downplay the time after time an unarmed black man dying in custody. The 'fixation' on the races boils down to white cops killing unarmed black men. Each time the anger and frustration builds. Not excusing violence, but not surprised either.

I don't think anyone is seeking moral high ground but rather it's about time to address this constant drip, drip, drip of cops killing unarmed people. Try thinking of this as working for change... eace

I agree about addressing cops abusing their position of authority. I do not agree that its motivated by racism. Sometimes maybe but the majority of the time its not.
What I am suggesting here is that we use a higher burden proof than only having a white cop and a black suspect as the only evidence before people react as they currently are.

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[Excon]

being unable to breathe caused his death
so what prevented him from being able to breathe

No. He was able to breath and carry on a conversation while doing so.

 

[justabubba]

No. He was able to breath and carry on a conversation while doing so.

from all accounts, he was talked-out by nine minutes
what caused him to be unable to continue to converse?

 

[Kiwimac]

Someone attempting to justify this man's death at the hands of criminals. Disgusting!

 

[Excon]

from all accounts, he was talked-out by nine minutes
what caused him to be unable to continue to converse?

See the official autopsy.

 

[Fletch]

No, it's definitely not irrelevant. Given his record including armed robbery, that he has been convicted 4 times as a drug dealer shows he poised a real danger to police - and everyone else.

It is not irrelevant that George Floyd was an extremely evil man destroying many many lives as a drug dealer and was a danger to everyone as an armed robber.

But once he is cuffed and on the ground, he no longer poses that danger. The cop killed him and he did it intentionally.

 

[joko104]

But once he is cuffed and on the ground, he no longer poses that danger. The cop killed him and he did it intentionally.

Correct, he then poised no danger because he was on the ground and cuffed.

He died of a heart attack.