George Floyd criminal record

[ElChupacabra]

It is relevant in how the police respond to an individual.

One would think how an individual is responding at the moment is more pertinent; or are you advocating for the poor treatment of people by the police because they have a criminal record?

 

[Mika-El]

Please go away.

No person should have their life taken by 4 thugs for a bad 20 dollar bill.

A ****ing summons was all that was needed.

My mind was made up speaking to war vets about this. You are who I listen to. I defer to you. My Dad was a former AirForce gunner in WW2 then retired a major. Flew in Mosquitoes. He did not talk about the guys at sea they saw sunk by uboats out of their range. He flew out of Goosebay which was a base with you Yanks and the Aussies. Your pilots they used to tease because they had electric jackets that kept them warm and you guys had US navy ships bring icecream.

I know some more stuff I can not talk about from work. I will say I know how many people the USN has saved worldwide and leave it at that. The Tomcat will always be the best jet ever. I am sorry your country is in turmoil and I hope someone understands what your sacrifice was for. I sure as hell do. Its so people like me can live in a free world. How the phack can people not listen to you and understand government is by the people, for the people, and protected by people like you.

 

[Grand Mal]

The cop is under arrest and in maximum security. Why did lefties kill two more black people?

The topic is police brutality. Go organize a protest against leftie brutality if you want to. Piggy-backing is what ANTIFA and proud boys and incels (for all I know) do.
And virtue signalling just looks pathetic.

 

[Grand Mal]

The knee is not the cause of his death.

Literally the whole world saw what happened. How you gonna explain it away after the guilty verdict is brought? Will you say the court made a mistake?

 

[Excon]

Literally the whole world saw what happened. How you gonna explain it away after the guilty plea is brought? Will you say the court made a mistake?

What a gawdawful reply.
Seeing what the video contained is one thing, properly interpreting it is another. That you do not understand that is a problem.

The knee did not cause the death.
Had the knee been used with such force to restrict his breathing the pressure would have left evidence for the medical examiner.
There was none.
The official autopsy revealed that there was no traumatic asphyxiation or strangulation.
And his continual talking showed he could breath.
The weight of the three officers he struggled against would contribute to his death.
But it was not murder.

 

[Fletch]

It may as well have been rural Alabama because the police department didn't address the complaints...they suppressed them.

And the question is, why would that happen in cities run by democrats?

 

[Grand Mal]

What a gawdawful reply.
Seeing what the video contained is one thing, properly interpreting it is another. That you do not understand that is a problem.

The knee did not cause the death.
Had the knee been used with such force to restrict his breathing the pressure would have left evidence for the medical examiner.
There was none.
The official autopsy revealed that there was no traumatic asphyxiation or strangulation.
And his continual talking showed he could breath.
The weight of the three officers he struggled against would contribute to his death.
But it was not murder.

Way I read it the knee cut off the blood to the brain. But whatever. The cops and prosecuters believe it's murder and the court will decide. And like I asked you, how you gonna explain it away when the guilty verdict comes in?

 

[Fletch]

That's some lazy trolling right there:

Thats funny coming from you. But some newb named Thazgor posting here from Russia is not 'the right.' Put some effort into your posts once in a while.

 

[Robertinfremont]

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Ain't it funny how, as a somewhat well-known anarchist, and someone who knows tens of thousands of other self-described anarchists, I don't know ANYONE who condones random looting and vandalism of private property?

 

[Excon]

Way I read it the knee cut off the blood to the brain.

The official autopsy says that?

The cops and prosecuters believe it's murder

Not really a valid point.

and the court will decide.

Maybe, may be a jury.

And like I asked you, how you gonna explain it away when the guilty verdict comes in?

It's easy to spot verdicts brought about by emotion and not by what the actual law says.
How do you explain away OJ'v verdict or Zimmerman's verdict?
How do you explain away guilty verdicts of those who were later exonerated?

 

[PIPEWRENCH]

One would think how an individual is responding at the moment is more pertinent; or are you advocating for the poor treatment of people by the police because they have a criminal record?

Information can save your life. We always ran the plate or run a check as soon as possible to see who we are dealing with. I want to know if the person I am dealing with has a history of violence and no respect for authority.

 

[Rogue Valley]

So are TMZ CNN other democrat media gonna bring up George Floyd criminal record?

https://twitter.com/DeanaTurner84/status/1268006598892453889/photo/1

You sound exactly like a Russian troll. Posting from 55 Savushkina Street?

 

[Rogue Valley]

But it was not murder.

It fits the definition of felony murder in the 2nd degree very well.

Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin kept his knee and body weight on George Floyd's neck for almost nine minutes. That is far beyond any police departments policy to restrain a suspect.

That act is aggravated assault, a felony. When Mr. George died, it became felony murder. It is 2nd degree murder because only one individual (George Floyd) was under attack.

The video shows two additional police officers also holding down the handcuffed George Floyd. In addition, Chauvin kept his left hand in his left pocket for most of the event.

This indicates that Chauvin felt the situation was under control and Floyd was no threat to him or anyone else.

Audio captures another officer telling Chauvin that there is no pulse. Yet Chauvin keeps his knee on Floyd's neck for an additional two minutes.

Although I believe the event was not premeditated (1st degree murder), what occurred in that Minneapolis street is clearly murder. Captured on two videos.

 

[ElChupacabra]

Information can save your life. We always ran the plate or run a check as soon as possible to see who we are dealing with. I want to know if the person I am dealing with has a history of violence and no respect for authority.

Sure, but a person's compliance should be the ultimate determinant. If a person is not resisting arrest or is already subdued, I'm not sure what relevance their past has to do with how they're treated.

 

[Excon]

It fits the definition of felony murder in the 2nd degree very well.

Not at all.

Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin kept his knee and body weight on George Floyd's neck for almost nine minutes. That is far beyond any police departments policy to restrain a suspect.

That act is aggravated assault, a felony. When Mr. George died, it became felony murder. It is 2nd degree murder because only one individual (George Floyd) was under attack.

The video shows two additional police officers also holding down the handcuffed George Floyd. In addition, Chauvin kept his left hand in his left pocket for most of the event.

This indicates that Chauvin felt the situation was under control and Floyd was no threat to him or anyone else.

Audio captures another officer telling Chauvin that there is no pulse. Yet Chauvin keeps his knee on Floyd's neck for an additional two minutes.

Although I believe the event was not premeditated (1st degree murder), what occurred in that Minneapolis street is clearly murder. Captured on two videos.

That is an assumption you are making.
By policy they can use the technique. By policy they can even render a suspect unconscious.
There are many things you have to show for your assumption to be true and you simply can not show any such thing at this time.
And no his hand was not in his pocket, just saying so shows your flawed thinking about this.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

Once a suspect is "Code 4" (disarmed or determined to be unarmed, subdued, on the ground and in handcuffs) the rough stuff is ILLEGAL.
That is a fact and is mentioned in every police training manual and course materials handbook in the country.
Code 4 means that the suspect is no longer a threat, either to the police officers, or nearby civilians.

It is illegal to bash a suspect that is in custody if they are Code 4 and subdued.

So it doesn't matter what George Floyd's criminal past was, not one iota.

End of story.

 

[PIPEWRENCH]

Sure, but a person's compliance should be the ultimate determinant. If a person is not resisting arrest or is already subdued, I'm not sure what relevance their past has to do with how they're treated.

A person with a long history of violence you have to be more careful with. If I run a license plate and it comes back with a history of violence towards police with a couple of convictions I am going to be much more careful or even wait for back up before pulling someone over. Especially when dealing with soldiers that may be real life Rambo's. I have followed a vehicle for miles until I was no longer in the middle of nowhere but back where I had backup when dealing with people that have a history of violence. I have had my desk sergeant call me and say wait for back up with this guy. We have trouble with him before. Sorry but your history follows you.

 

[PIPEWRENCH]

Sure, but a person's compliance should be the ultimate determinant. If a person is not resisting arrest or is already subdued, I'm not sure what relevance their past has to do with how they're treated.

Sorry but their history follows them. That is why we run checks on people. So we are not caught by surprise.

 

[ElChupacabra]

A person with a long history of violence you have to be more careful with. If I run a license plate and it comes back with a history of violence towards police with a couple of convictions I am going to be much more careful or even wait for back up before pulling someone over. Especially when dealing with soldiers that may be real life Rambo's. I have followed a vehicle for miles until I was no longer in the middle of nowhere but back where I had backup when dealing with people that have a history of violence. I have had my desk sergeant call me and say wait for back up with this guy. We have trouble with him before. Sorry but your history follows you.

So then your history trumps your current behavior if the individual is compliant?

 

[ElChupacabra]

Sorry but their history follows them. That is why we run checks on people. So we are not caught by surprise.

Again, the question is if what factor their current behavior plays in how the situation is handled.

 

[Manc Skipper]

UK police have no problem with negotiating compliance from an individual and will attempt to do so even if they have markers for violence. If they offer any it will be dealt with, and they may even be handcuffed to begin with "for both our protections" but they won't be thrown to the floor and knelt on as a first response.

 

[Excon]

UK police have no problem with negotiating compliance from an individual and will attempt to do so even if they have markers for violence. If they offer any it will be dealt with, and they may even be handcuffed to begin with "for both our protections" but they won't be thrown to the floor and knelt on as a first response.

And the video of the event shows that wasn't a first response here either.

 

[Moot]

And the question is, why would that happen in cities run by democrats?

I think it happens in rural areas, too.

 

[joko104]

I suspect no one is reporting on it because its irrelevant

No, it's definitely not irrelevant. Given his record including armed robbery, that he has been convicted 4 times as a drug dealer shows he poised a real danger to police - and everyone else.

It is not irrelevant that George Floyd was an extremely evil man destroying many many lives as a drug dealer and was a danger to everyone as an armed robber.

 

[joko104]

It also is relevant is that George Floyd was a bouncer.

The media has portrayed that an innocent black man, a good family man, was minding his own business and 4 police rushed him deliberately murdering him because he was black.

In fact, Floyd was a hardened criminal, a drug dealer, an armed criminal and robber, a thug and a tough guy. There was every reason to believe he was armed, that he would flee and that he would fight. Nor was it the police who gave him a bad heart likely due to being not just a drug dealer, but a drug addict and had covid-19, for which many progressives have ranted that covid-19 attacks a person's heart.

George Floyd's death should be counted as a covid-19 death.