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Gay Teacher in Texas Wins Court Fight

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Teacher of the year suspended for showing students a picture of her fiancee wins $100,000 settlement - CNN

A Texas art teacher who was placed on administrative leave after talking about "her future wife" in class hopes her settlement with a school district will change the lives of other LGBTQ people.Stacy Bailey, who was on paid leave, reached a $100,000 settlement with the Mansfield Independent School District last week, her attorney said.

I sure hope there's more to this story than this:

The two-time teacher of the year was giving a welcome back to school presentation in August 2017 to her class when she showed a photo of her and her then-fiancee dressed as characters from the movie "Finding Nemo," according to court documents obtained by CNN.




A parent complained to the school, saying that Bailey was "promoting the homosexual agenda," according to court documents.

Come on Texas, I mean yeah, in the end you got it right, but how did it get there in the first place???

Again with the "gay agenda" crap? :roll:
 
Teacher of the year suspended for showing students a picture of her fiancee wins $100,000 settlement - CNN



I sure hope there's more to this story than this:



Come on Texas, I mean yeah, in the end you got it right, but how did it get there in the first place???

Again with the "gay agenda" crap? :roll:

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Teacher of the year suspended for showing students a picture of her fiancee wins $100,000 settlement - CNN



I sure hope there's more to this story than this:



Come on Texas, I mean yeah, in the end you got it right, but how did it get there in the first place???

Again with the "gay agenda" crap? :roll:

There are people who'd rather pretend that we don't exist. The fact that we're not hiding this facet about ourselves is what offends some people. It's a shame.
 
None of my teachers in any of my schools showed us pictures of their fiancees, husbands, or wives.

They weren't supposed to bring their personal lives into the classroom. It would have been deeply unprofessional.

In point of fact, I knew very few of my teachers' first names and nothing about their marital status. Students had no business knowing, and teachers had no business discussing it.

While I can't say whether Ms. Bailey was trying to indoctrinate children into acceptance of homosexuality, I can say that any teacher engaging in this kind of unprofessional conduct--homosexual or not--should be censured or fired.

If this kind of thing is now tolerated in schools, that's one more reason to choose private schools with higher standards, or--better still--tutors for homeschooling.
 
None of my teachers in any of my schools showed us pictures of their fiancees, husbands, or wives.

They weren't supposed to bring their personal lives into the classroom. It would have been deeply unprofessional.

In point of fact, I knew very few of my teachers' first names and nothing about their marital status. Students had no business knowing, and teachers had no business discussing it.

While I can't say whether Ms. Bailey was trying to indoctrinate children into acceptance of homosexuality, I can say that any teacher engaging in this kind of unprofessional conduct--homosexual or not--should be censured or fired.

If this kind of thing is now tolerated in schools, that's one more reason to choose private schools with higher standards, or--better still--tutors for homeschooling.

Yeah, if you're that fragile and insecure then private school all the way for you. Have at it.
 
None of my teachers in any of my schools showed us pictures of their fiancees, husbands, or wives.

They weren't supposed to bring their personal lives into the classroom. It would have been deeply unprofessional.

In point of fact, I knew very few of my teachers' first names and nothing about their marital status. Students had no business knowing, and teachers had no business discussing it.

While I can't say whether Ms. Bailey was trying to indoctrinate children into acceptance of homosexuality, I can say that any teacher engaging in this kind of unprofessional conduct--homosexual or not--should be censured or fired.

If this kind of thing is now tolerated in schools, that's one more reason to choose private schools with higher standards, or--better still--tutors for homeschooling.

Show me some straight teachers fired for the same thing
 
There are people who'd rather pretend that we don't exist. The fact that we're not hiding this facet about ourselves is what offends some people. It's a shame.

Lived many years in Naconowhere, The Governess. Truly good years. Not a great place for same-sex people, though. I imagine it is not much better. I hope SFASU and NISD have matured some.
 
None of my teachers in any of my schools showed us pictures of their fiancees, husbands, or wives.

They weren't supposed to bring their personal lives into the classroom. It would have been deeply unprofessional.

In point of fact, I knew very few of my teachers' first names and nothing about their marital status. Students had no business knowing, and teachers had no business discussing it.

While I can't say whether Ms. Bailey was trying to indoctrinate children into acceptance of homosexuality, I can say that any teacher engaging in this kind of unprofessional conduct--homosexual or not--should be censured or fired.

If this kind of thing is now tolerated in schools, that's one more reason to choose private schools with higher standards, or--better still--tutors for homeschooling.

You are culturally and politically in the minority on this issue.

Grow up. Let others live their lives.
 
Lived many years in Naconowhere, The Governess. Truly good years. Not a great place for same-sex people, though. I imagine it is not much better. I hope SFASU and NISD have matured some.

It's been a good experience for me, thankfully.
 
There are people who'd rather pretend that we don't exist. The fact that we're not hiding this facet about ourselves is what offends some people. It's a shame.

There are people here who want me not to exist.

Some of them are the same people.

Texas has had freedom of speach explained to it. Good.
 
None of my teachers in any of my schools showed us pictures of their fiancees, husbands, or wives.
They weren't supposed to bring their personal lives into the classroom. It would have been deeply unprofessional.
I'm not sure how old you are and so when you went to school but the educational system has developed from the faceless masters beating facts in to children. I was at school in the UK a good 30+ years ago and though there were plenty of teachers who chose to keep their private lives private, there were inevitably some we got to know better (especially form tutors we spend 5 years with and teachers who also ran after-school activities). Even if it wasn’t intentional, they’d mention things in passing that reveal facts just like any other social environment. I’ve known teachers who we’d see picked-up or dropped-off by partners, teachers who were Miss Smith one year and Mrs Jones the next and, in one case, two teachers at a school who were married to each other.

If this kind of thing is now tolerated in schools, that's one more reason to choose private schools with higher standards, or--better still--tutors for homeschooling.
I’d argue that small private schools or home tutors would actually have more scope for the students to learn more about the teachers lives, intentionally or not.
 
I'm not sure how old you are and so when you went to school but the educational system has developed from the faceless masters beating facts in to children. I was at school in the UK a good 30+ years ago and though there were plenty of teachers who chose to keep their private lives private, there were inevitably some we got to know better (especially form tutors we spend 5 years with and teachers who also ran after-school activities). Even if it wasn’t intentional, they’d mention things in passing that reveal facts just like any other social environment. I’ve known teachers who we’d see picked-up or dropped-off by partners, teachers who were Miss Smith one year and Mrs Jones the next and, in one case, two teachers at a school who were married to each other.
My gradeschool years ended less than 20 years ago. There were certainly instances where a teacher's name might change, a teacher would be picked up after school by a spouse, or other incidental clues would give away details of their personal lives, but there there were no direct disclosures or "getting to know us better" when it came to our personal lives or theirs.

We were minors. They were state actors (I attended mostly Canadian public schools) specifically appointed to educate us, not socialize with us. There were strict professional and social barriers not to be crossed, which protected the teachers, protected the students, and enforced the all-important divide between teachers as authorities and students as subordinates, which became especially important in the later grades when teachers may only have been 4-6 years older than the students in the class.

There were no slide shows of Halloween parties, discussions of family lives, or friendly student-teacher chats over coffee. School was strictly about education. Any of these would have violated the code of ethics.

Now... I know US public schools aren't exactly the envy of the developed world. Possibly your ethical standards aren't so rigorous either. But speaking from my own experiences in Canadian public schools, these were the rules.

I’d argue that small private schools or home tutors would actually have more scope for the students to learn more about the teachers lives, intentionally or not.
It's not about what a student might learn incidentally. It's about maintaining personal and professional barriers (as already mentioned) and ensuring educators can't bring the irrelevant, sometimes compromising, sometimes immoral, sometimes scandalous detritus of their personal lives into a classroom full of other people's kids. It's unprofessional and it's a liability.

I have no doubt that if this case was a teacher showing off slides of her church picnic, regardless of whether she was proselytizing, most of the people here would be on her like white on rice for crossing that boundary--and, they would have a valid case.
 
My gradeschool years ended less than 20 years ago. There were certainly instances where a teacher's name might change, a teacher would be picked up after school by a spouse, or other incidental clues would give away details of their personal lives, but there there were no direct disclosures or "getting to know us better" when it came to our personal lives or theirs.

We were minors. They were state actors (I attended mostly Canadian public schools) specifically appointed to educate us, not socialize with us. There were strict professional and social barriers not to be crossed, which protected the teachers, protected the students, and enforced the all-important divide between teachers as authorities and students as subordinates, which became especially important in the later grades when teachers may only have been 4-6 years older than the students in the class.

There were no slide shows of Halloween parties, discussions of family lives, or friendly student-teacher chats over coffee. School was strictly about education. Any of these would have violated the code of ethics.

Now... I know US public schools aren't exactly the envy of the developed world. Possibly your ethical standards aren't so rigorous either. But speaking from my own experiences in Canadian public schools, these were the rules.


It's not about what a student might learn incidentally. It's about maintaining personal and professional barriers (as already mentioned) and ensuring educators can't bring the irrelevant, sometimes compromising, sometimes immoral, sometimes scandalous detritus of their personal lives into a classroom full of other people's kids. It's unprofessional and it's a liability.

I have no doubt that if this case was a teacher showing off slides of her church picnic, regardless of nonswhether she was proselytizing, most of the people here would be on her like white on rice for crossing that boundary--and, they would have a valid case.

Oh, nonsense. No one cares about church picnics, but I bet you would be unhappy if it were a gay religious picnic. Just grow up, ok?
 
There are people who'd rather pretend that we don't exist. The fact that we're not hiding this facet about ourselves is what offends some people. It's a shame.

That's exactly what offends them. Some of the right would give anything to squelch the defiance and return to the good ole days of gay shame.
What many conservatives want to conserve is the values of a barely-passed era, the values of when their parents were children. They take a picture of a moment and call it the perfect moment and try through legislation to live in that moment forever.
 
My gradeschool years ended less than 20 years ago. There were certainly instances where a teacher's name might change, a teacher would be picked up after school by a spouse, or other incidental clues would give away details of their personal lives, but there there were no direct disclosures or "getting to know us better" when it came to our personal lives or theirs.
This was an incidental comment though. The point was showing the kids the fun picture of her in a silly costume. If she had been straight and the picture had been of her male fiance, the school wouldn't have had an issue. Their objection was specifically because her fiance was female.

And frankly, I think that's your objection too. You're only playing up the "strict professional barriers" line because you don't want to admit it.
 
There are people who'd rather pretend that we don't exist. The fact that we're not hiding this facet about ourselves is what offends some people. It's a shame.


^^^ Irony

...and yet if someone else wants to live their lives and worship and believe how they choose, the gay agenda will attack them and call them bigots and fascists just for them living and believing how their conscience tells them. Example: forcing a Christian baker to participate in a homosexual wedding ceremony against that individuals personal choice not to be involved on the basis of their religious rights.

The real tyranny in this country is on the left.
 
^^^ Irony

...and yet if someone else wants to live their lives and worship and believe how they choose, the gay agenda will attack them and call them bigots and fascists just for them living and believing how their conscience tells them. Example: forcing a Christian baker to participate in a homosexual wedding ceremony against that individual's personal choice not to be involved on the basis of their religious rights.

The real tyranny in this country is on the left.
A person can be as bigoted as they want on their own time but they must be willing to accept the social consequences of their decision because other people have free speech and equal rights.

Do you have a problem with equal service in business and free speech, or do they only apply when you support the goal? Do you support "whites-only" businesses if the bigot claims that his religious beliefs oppose race mixing? Maybe the Dr in the ER can deny care to a MAGAite because he opposes bigotry, or is that wrong? Maybe a cop, a judge or paramedic who is gay decides not to treat them as equals and ignore their rights because of their bigotry, or is that wrong?

How is baking a cake forcing anyone to participate in a wedding? He wasn't invited to the wedding, he never asked about the couple's religious beliefs and he has yet to show how the cake was offensive. How can it be offensive top his religious beliefs if the wedding would have been held at a Christian church?

Jesus wasn't a bigot, or did you Sharpie those passages out of your bible? Do you obey all of Leviticus equally or just the part that align with your beliefs?

Luke 6:31

Matthew 7:12.
 
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