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If I have to explain that to you its painfully obvious that you are not worth debating at all.
If I have to explain that to you its painfully obvious that you are not worth debating at all.
See post 766.
The arguments have already been made here. You can re-read the thread and ask specifics, but I will not entertain trolling.
Look @ 769.
Look @ 769.
And 767. His position has been shown to have no merit and he will not address anything here because he has nothing. Instead he just rehashes the same debunked information claiming that it is true, when it has been shown to not be. This is trolling, and he has done this before.
Prediction: you cannot win this argument and out of frustration will abuse your moderator privileges, ban me from this thread and claim false victory. :mrgreen:Your arguments have already been thoroughly debunked. I will not entertain trolling.
Normal is a simple statistical relationship: what most people do.
Morality is fixed in time regardless of your rejection of it.
The anus is not designed for sex and that type of intercourse is unhealthy.
I don't support a ban on anything, just don't tell children that something is healthy when its not.
There aren't any others trying to debate the OP. The OP asked for a rational argument for stopping gay marriage, which I have provided. Southern Man is rambling on about how homosexuality is a sin, which is completely off topic, since sinners are allowed to marry each other all the time. Everyone else is arguing with SM about religion. I am the only one who is actually on topic per the OP. But since you refuse to address your own topic you can come address my virtually identical one:
So if the law stated that discrimination was acceptable, your morals would not compel you to change it?
Prediction: you cannot win this argument and out of frustration will abuse your moderator privileges, ban me from this thread and claim false victory. :mrgreen:
Neither of you can win.Prediction: you cannot win this argument and out of frustration will abuse your moderator privileges, ban me from this thread and claim false victory.
Neither of you can win.
Your arguments are based on completely different and diametrically opposed foundations.
Yours, on what you believe to be fact.
His, on what he believes to be logic and scientific fact.
Since both sides believe their positions are correct, and are unlikely to budge, neither will win (defining "win" as one side conceding to the other).
Neither of you can win.
Your arguments are based on completely different and diametrically opposed foundations.
Yours, on what you believe to be fact.
His, on what he believes to be logic and scientific fact.
Since both sides believe their positions are correct, and are unlikely to budge, neither will win (defining "win" as one side conceding to the other).
There is no such thing as normal. It is a fallacy.
Morality is not fixed in time, nor is it absolute. Or do you kill everyone you see working on the Sabbath? Because that was the "moral" thing to do way back when.
Anal sex when done properly is in no way unhealthy, and is a common practice between both straight, and LGBT couples.
Take your own advice.
Your argument boils down to 'because you say so'.
Assuming for a moment that is true. How is yours not?
"Cultural Universal". Everywhere on Earth, in any place, at any point in time, marriage is about the raising and socializing of children. Modern gay marriage is not, thus it is counter-culture.
There's no reason to care about your relationship if you aren't raising children whether you're gay or straight, living together or not. Go live with whomever you want. Have your life and I hope you live a good one. The legal buffs are for couples raising children, because raising children is the State's interest in promoting a relationship. Marriage is not for heteros looking for a tax brake, it's not for gays looking for social validation of their identity.
Gays don't make their movement about children. They make it about rights, etc, so there is no reason to care about gay marriage.