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Fox News Poll: Trump should be removed from office, would lose in 2020

It's tighter than I'd like it to be. Going exclusively by the metric of which states support impeachment, Democrats win with 316 votes.

The problem? Voter suppression efforts are already well underway in Wisconsin, and those efforts in Florida and Ohio are going to be positively bonkers.

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Where do you get this garbage of voter suppression? What are they doing? The election is 11 months away. Is that a WaPo opinion?
 
A majority of people wanted Hillary Clinton. Our system does not work that way in elections and it absolutely does not work that way in government.

It's called the "electoral college"
 
Fox poll sampling data...

46% - Dem
41% - Rep
12% - Ind


POLL REJECTED!!!

Damn...even though they've been outed for their bogus poll by everyone, including the President, Fox still insists on presenting a bogus poll.

5% more Democrats alone.
 
It's a Fox News poll.:shock: What are they gonna do now?:lamo
 
Do you know why? There absolutely is a reason for this.
 
It is not about caring, it is about what the constitution. Who understands this? Not you.

Irony of the day award. The constitution is not against caring, it's there to help it. You don't understand any of it.
 
Where do you get this garbage of voter suppression? What are they doing? The election is 11 months away. Is that a WaPo opinion?

I don't know. Where do you get this garbage that are such things as Opioid problems, guns in America, rap music, or that anyone steals anything? Apparently, you are from Mars, and it's all unknown to you.
 
The most relevant sampling is the one taken in the same poll.

You need to understand that self-reported party affiliation and political lean vary substantially from poll to poll. General population, registered voters, and likely voters are all different samples that yield different results. You’ll even get different results with the same methodology merely by including cell phones instead of landline-only. There is not a singular, “correct” ratio of Democrats to republicans.

Every time you vomit this ‘poll rejected’ canard, you are mathematically wrong.

I don't think you understand the problem.

If a poll contends that their results apply to the population, then they must tailor their sampling to match the population. They cannot pick Dems as 40+% of the people they sample if 40+% of the population is not Dem. Likewise, if 12% of the people they question are Inds and 40% of the population are Inds. If they do that, their sample does not represent the population and their results are useless.

The "correct" ratio is one that is determined by asking Americans one question: What is your party affiliation...and then applying the responses, statistically, to the entire population. That is what Gallup has been doing for 15 years.

For Fox News to self-determine that 40+% of the US population is Dem, while 12% is Ind, this is the height of deliberate misleading polling based on cooked numbers. (unless, of course, they reveal how they decided that was the breakdown of the US population...Fox doesn't provide that info)
 
I don't know. Where do you get this garbage that are such things as Opioid problems, guns in America, rap music, or that anyone steals anything? Apparently, you are from Mars, and it's all unknown to you.

So ,you have nothing. As usual.
 
I don't think you understand the problem.

If a poll contends that their results apply to the population, then they must tailor their sampling to match the population. They cannot pick Dems as 40+% of the people they sample if 40+% of the population is not Dem. Likewise, if 12% of the people they question are Inds and 40% of the population are Inds. If they do that, their sample does not represent the population and their results are useless.

The "correct" ratio is one that is determined by asking Americans one question: What is your party affiliation...and then applying the responses, statistically, to the entire population. That is what Gallup has been doing for 15 years.

For Fox News to self-determine that 40+% of the US population is Dem, while 12% is Ind, this is the height of deliberate misleading polling based on cooked numbers. (unless, of course, they reveal how they decided that was the breakdown of the US population...Fox doesn't provide that info)

Man oh man your understanding of polling methodology is shallow. I'm not going to pretend I'm "shocked". No random sampling is going to be consistent with the population sampled. That's a given in any polling and no statistician would argue otherwise. Pollsters adjust results based upon their samples.
 
Okay sure. Hillary landslide too lol.

. . . which has not a thing to do with this.

And now Fox News has turned on the Trump followers.
 
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