Fox News Poll: Half of Americans want Trump REMOVED.

[SDET]

It needs to be timed to maximize the chance of cramming Red Lizzie's Presidency down the American People's throats.

When they have all the evidence they can get. Why not present as much as you can get your hands on, cover all bases, dot all those i's, cross all those t's?

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[bearpoker]

The other half are saying, "Are you insane? You seriously want Pence in charge?!?"

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I actually think it's better for the Democrats politically if the impeachment fails in the Senate. That way all the dirty laundry gets aired and we still get to vote him out in a blue tsunami. :mrgreen: If the Senate Republicans wise up and throw Trump's ass out, it won't be near as bad for them in 2020.

 

[maquiscat]

I actually think it's better for the Democrats politically if the impeachment fails in the Senate. That way all the dirty laundry gets aired and we still get to vote him out in a blue tsunami. :mrgreen: If the Senate Republicans wise up and throw Trump's ass out, it won't be near as bad for them in 2020.

Quite honestly I am hoping for a green tsunami. I'm fed up with both idiot parties. They are stagnating, and are more alike than they want to believe.

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[ModerationNow!]

Remember, impeachment does NOT mean removal! Clinton was impeached. But he wasn't thrown out, because that's not what impeachment is. The republicans lost a LOT of American support for focusing on impeaching Clinton, instead of actually doing their jobs! I expect that, despite the "collusion" between the "news" media and the democrats, the American people are going to get really, REALLY tired of this OBVIOUSLY partisan, 3+ year old coup attempt! They want govt to work for the people, not waste years trying desperately to regain power for themselves, by unendingly going after a political enemy!

 

[ModerationNow!]

Quite honestly I am hoping for a green tsunami. I'm fed up with both idiot parties. They are stagnating, and are more alike than they want to believe.

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Yeah, the neocons and neolibs certainly do have quite a bit in common, mostly ensuring that the swamp doesn't drain! Unfortunately, the mainstream "news" media are the plug that helps hold the swamp water in....

 

[roguenuke]

Remember, impeachment does NOT mean removal! Clinton was impeached. But he wasn't thrown out, because that's not what impeachment is. The republicans lost a LOT of American support for focusing on impeaching Clinton, instead of actually doing their jobs! I expect that, despite the "collusion" between the "news" media and the democrats, the American people are going to get really, REALLY tired of this OBVIOUSLY partisan, 3+ year old coup attempt! They want govt to work for the people, not waste years trying desperately to regain power for themselves, by unendingly going after a political enemy!

Different situations. What Clinton did was seen as having little to do with his actual job. The worst part wasn't even the lying under oath, but rather the obstructing justice part, and there were votes to put him out for both (they just didnt get the 2/3rds they needed). And Republicans gained the White House soon after.

Clinton was not seen as having did something corrupt, just immoral and dishonest. And some Republicans focused on the details of the blowjob rather than what he did. That was actually one reason Republicans lost some political respect because they conducted the impeachment proceedings in a way that showed their partisanship, how petty they could be.

That is why it is highly important that Dems try to keep this as professional as possible. I'm willing to bet that Schiff got talked to by Pelosi about his parody speech (regardless of how accurately it portrayed the situation) because they need to remain professional if they want to maintain the respect for the proceedings.

Also, there is no one more partisan than our President. And no one is attempting a coup. Impeachment is a legal, constitutional process. A coup isnt.

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[haymarket]

When you consider 48% of the people polled are democrats its really not surprising at all.

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Actually it is rather surprising since the numbers have moved significantly to impeachment over the last two months.

 

[trouble13]

Actually it is rather surprising since the numbers have moved significantly to impeachment over the last two months.

Whats surprising is that with such strong numbers for impeaching (those numbers are real, right?) and Pelosi still has not brought a vote to the floor. Democrats are running a 3 card montee scam on their supporters. Mark my words the only possibilty they will impeach will come after he is re-elected.

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[haymarket]

Whats surprising is that with such strong numbers for impeaching (those numbers are real, right?) and Pelosi still has not brought a vote to the floor. Democrats are running a 3 card montee scam on their supporters. Mark my words the only possibilty they will impeach will come after he is re-elected.

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Where in the Constitution does it say such a vote is necessary at this time to investigate grounds for impeachment?

Where in the House rules does it say such a vote is necessary at this time to investigate grounds for impeachment?

There is nothing to mandate this.

Pelosi will have a vote on impeachment in good time.

 

[trouble13]

Where in the Constitution does it say such a vote is necessary at this time to investigate grounds for impeachment?

Where in the House rules does it say such a vote is necessary at this time to investigate grounds for impeachment?

There is nothing to mandate this.

Pelosi will have a vote on impeachment in good time.

Like i said, it will occur after he is re-elected of at all.

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[gdgyva]

Fox News Poll: Record support for Trump impeachment | Fox News

And it's only going to get worse as they learn how absurd Trump's lies about Biden are.

Then you have Giuliani's people arrested.

We haven't even touched on Rick Perry's people in Ukraine.

Corruption, corruption everywhere.

your only 25 percentage points away from when Nixon resigned

and the polls are mixed at 50%....some are that high, some a little less

getting democrats to say Trump should GO is easy....

getting indies a little harder

getting repubs to say that is what you will need

No where near the numbers necessary accross the board....

But keep trying....so far it's only been 34 months of solid attacks

you still have time......

 

[haymarket]

Like i said, it will occur after he is re-elected of at all.

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Why would you wish for the end of America and terrible suffering for the American people?

 

[truthatallcost]

Until you read further and see that over 60% said it is not appropriate for Trump to request info on political rivals (just Independents).

Plus keep in mind this is a Fox News poll, so even those identifying as Independents likely have a little more biased towards the right than normal population.

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Yet 61% of independents don't support impeachment. A clear majority of ind voters didn't feel that the Ukraine issue warranted impeachment. We would assume that Fox News polls may be biased towards the right, but measuring what effect that assumed bias had on the outcome is impossible.

 

[truthatallcost]

I believe the fox poll has an 8.5% margin of error. Anything over 2% is considered garbage

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Ah, I didn't see 8.5% listed in the article.

 

[Amelia]

Fox News Poll: Record support for Trump impeachment | Fox News

And it's only going to get worse as they learn how absurd Trump's lies about Biden are.

Then you have Giuliani's people arrested.

We haven't even touched on Rick Perry's people in Ukraine.

Corruption, corruption everywhere.

Yes. It takes a while to build support for removal. The support for impeachment is growing a reasonable rate -- possibly a fast rate -- as the black-and-white evidence falls into place. The impeachment articles are writing themselves. If it weren't for partisan-driven burying of heads in sand, this would be an open-and-shut case, and still even with that partisan denial it is moving steadily in that direction.

 

[Simon W. Moon]

your only 25 percentage points away from when Nixon resigned
and the polls are mixed at 50%....some are that high, some a little less

How long before Nixon resigned did support for his impeachment breach 50%?
Wasn't it just a matter of months between when support for Nixon's impeachment became >50% to when Nixon resigned?

I'm not sure that it's good news for Trump that most Americans disapprove of his presidency.

I also doubt that it's good news for Trump that he's where Nixon was in early 1974 polling-wise in regard to impeachment.

But you seem happy about the numbers.
So, that's something, I guess.

 

[SonOfDaedalus]

your only 25 percentage points away from when Nixon resigned

and the polls are mixed at 50%....some are that high, some a little less

getting democrats to say Trump should GO is easy....

getting indies a little harder

getting repubs to say that is what you will need

No where near the numbers necessary accross the board....

But keep trying....so far it's only been 34 months of solid attacks

you still have time......

Actually Trump's numbers are far worse than Nixon when the inquiry began.

And if you click the link you'll see that 66% of people believe it's wrong for a president to ask a foreign president to investigate his rival.

It won't be difficult to prove that's what Trump did. He has pretty much confessed to it.

This is a pretty bad start to Trump's reelection campaign.

 

[Simon W. Moon]

I believe the fox poll has an 8.5% margin of error. Anything over 2% is considered garbage

(emphasis added)

Ah, I didn't see 8.5% listed in the article.

To be fair 8.5% is not listed in the article.
So, you couldn't see it.

trouble13 was merely discussing his beliefs about the poll's margin of error and what margins of error are acceptable.

The margin of error is listed on the infographic at the site linked in the OP if you're interested.
And here's a Google search about margin of error and polling
What is the acceptable margin of error in polling? - Google Search

 

[Simon W. Moon]

Yet 61% of independents don't support impeachment. A clear majority of ind voters didn't feel that the Ukraine issue warranted impeachment. We would assume that Fox News polls may be biased towards the right, but measuring what effect that assumed bias had on the outcome is impossible.

The % of independents who approve of impeachment is now 44.4%

Maybe Americans are reacting as the info comes out.


Do Americans Support Impeaching Trump? | FiveThirtyEight

 

[truthatallcost]

(emphasis added)

To be fair 8.5% is not listed in the article.
So, you couldn't see it.

trouble13 was merely discussing his beliefs about the poll's margin of error and what margins of error are acceptable.

The margin of error is listed on the infographic at the site linked in the OP if you're interested.
And here's a Google search about margin of error and polling
What is the acceptable margin of error in polling? - Google Search

Thanks. I should have done the legwork.. it took 30 seconds to find out the margin of error is +3%.

 

[bearpoker]

Whats surprising is that with such strong numbers for impeaching (those numbers are real, right?) and Pelosi still has not brought a vote to the floor. Democrats are running a 3 card montee scam on their supporters. Mark my words the only possibilty they will impeach will come after he is re-elected.

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I think they'll take the impeachment vote before Christmas. We'll see who's right. If It's me, as I'm sure it will be, I plan to be insufferable. Be prepared for major smugness and unbridled glee!:mrgreen:

 

[trouble13]

(emphasis added)

To be fair 8.5% is not listed in the article.
So, you couldn't see it.

trouble13 was merely discussing his beliefs about the poll's margin of error and what margins of error are acceptable.

The margin of error is listed on the infographic at the site linked in the OP if you're interested.
And here's a Google search about margin of error and polling
What is the acceptable margin of error in polling? - Google Search

I saw them cite the poll on their network and under the poll it said moe 8.5. Thats where i got that number

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[trouble13]

I think they'll take the impeachment vote before Christmas. We'll see who's right. If It's me, as I'm sure it will be, I plan to be insufferable. Be prepared for major smugness and unbridled glee!:mrgreen:

So nothing new from you, lol (joking)

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[bearpoker]

So nothing new from you, lol (joking)

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Flatterer!