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Fox News Doesn't Want to Say Porn Star + Stormy Daniels

I think most men would like about an affair. At least at first. The sad thing is watching the biblical types latching onto it. As if they've never done anything wrong.

Lying about the affair and possibly intimidation and using campaign funds to shut someone up about the affair is entirely different. I've said about clinton that he should have looked starr right in the eye and said "Yep I had the affair, what are you gonna do about it" and that would have shut Starr up completely and he would have had nothing. Same thing for Trump. It looks like Trump might have gone through extraordinary means to accomplish this and if so he is going down.

If the lawyer was the one who handled the intimidation that could be jail time and if he flips on Trump there might actually be a Pence/Haley run in 2020 instead.
 
Trump's twitter is funny, also, if he shagged a pornstar then hey, it's a free country.
 
Possibly according to whom you ask? Seriously, that's the best you can do. It's been stated many many times so now you are acting dumb.

Possibly implies uncertainty.

So does allegedly.

After 18 months possibly and allegedly is all you got. Maybe the Cohen or Hannity thing will workout better for you.
 
Did you bother to actually read what I said? Nope so move on if you're just going to bother actually reading. The cover up allegedly happened before the election so it is relevant. Go pound sand if you don't like it. You can tell trump ass kissers are getting nervous.

there is absolutely no proof of him using campaign funds...none...zero

there is a case being investigated about fraud for his attorney on a HELOC loan

i know you are desperate for any kind of a WIN....but at least use facts....not useless speculation

it at least will make you look a little bit more realistic
 
FOX news know he watches them every day and wont do or say anything that might upset Trump. That and rating desires pretty much define the network anymore...pity.
 
What I do care about is when whores come out of the woodwork and try to make a buck on a former John

Trump is the most tabloid President in history. Of course his glitzy private lifestyle is going to come out of the woodwork. That's just how it goes. If he didn't want that his life to be put under (now) three different microscopes (Russia investigation, Cohen investigation, Stormy investigation), then he shouldn't have run for President. He just didn't have the mental capacity to think about the damage it could do to his name. And neither do his followers, otherwise I'm not so sure why you are all screeching about the private acts between pornstars and politicians. You wouldn't be doing that with any other politician and you know it. What gives Trump the pass?
 
Possibly implies uncertainty.

So does allegedly.

After 18 months possibly and allegedly is all you got. Maybe the Cohen or Hannity thing will workout better for you.

If we took your advice, Watergate would have never brought down Nixon. Sorry but there is definitely evidence since Trump and Cohen have been dishonest regarding the affair, the coverup and payment.
 
there is absolutely no proof of him using campaign funds...none...zero

there is a case being investigated about fraud for his attorney on a HELOC loan

i know you are desperate for any kind of a WIN....but at least use facts....not useless speculation

it at least will make you look a little bit more realistic

Well you are wrong because items dealing with the payment HAVE been seized from cohen by the FBI. I'll take their word over a Trumpbot any day of the week and twice on Sundays. I know you are desperate to protect your master Trump but there is smoke and the FBI and Mueller are hot on the trail to soon find the fire.
 
If we took your advice, Watergate would have never brought down Nixon. Sorry but there is definitely evidence since Trump and Cohen have been dishonest regarding the affair, the coverup and payment.

If by affair you mean Daniels or whatever her name is, that was years ago. Has nothing to do with the presidency.

I would be concerned if I felt the issue had some implication, but I don't see it. Affairs are not illegal. Covering them up is not illegal. I'm not sure if paying off someone is illegal or not. If it is, then we need to rethink Bill Clinton.

I see this as another get Trump for something issue. If not Trump, then those around him, and those around them.

None of which will make Hillary president. It could well make President Trump a two term president.
 
Yet...Stormy has a DVD.

Have you seen it?

Ms Daniels is a porn actress/hooker who takes hush money then doesn't hush. And keeps the money. I don't see much credibility there.
 
It has everything to do with him being president since he possibly had her paid off with campaign funds. It’s hilsrious watching the right excuse trump when they have spent the better part of two decades whining about bill clinton having an affair.

And its equally possible that he didnt. Get some facts, then attack.
 
Fox News frequently also ignores Trump dumb twitter habits, and never criticizes him for them. Also during weekends it seems Trump watches Fox News all day. There's been times when I'm watching the network, and then an hour later the President tweets something one of the hosts says. Sometimes it's live tweeting too.

Now the stormy thing is interesting, but before you say, it's VOX! blah, blah, blah fake news. Please try to actually argue a literate point and try to find a time when Fox News has mentioned Stormy. Also an analysis about all the times Fox News mentioned Clinton VS Stormy would be helpful in your arguments that Vox and not Fox is fake news.





https://www.vox.com/2018/3/21/17144180/fox-news-stormy-daniels-porn-trump

I do realize that in the article CNN's Stormy graph looks like a erect penis. That's hilarious. But that's probably just because they're the ones who've been getting all the interviews w/her and avenatti. I'm sure Fox could fight for them if they wanted to. It's clear they don't.

FYI, on FoxNews.com there are 51 stories naming Stephanie Clifford and 260 stories naming Stormy Daniels.
 
Have you seen it?

Ms Daniels is a porn actress/hooker who takes hush money then doesn't hush. And keeps the money. I don't see much credibility there.

Yes. I have seen a picture of the DVD itself.
 
It has everything to do with him being president since he possibly had her paid off with campaign funds. It’s hilarious watching the right excuse trump when they have spent the better part of two decades whining about bill clinton having an affair.

NO! That is a spin based on wild speculation that your side of the argument is trying to find evidence for. A belief based on absolutely NO EVIDENCE, that if Trump arranged a pay-off it just had to do with illegal use of campaign funds.

As for "whining about Bill Clinton?"

1. I didn't "whine" back then; I was openly opposed to efforts to impeach him based on "lying about Monica Lewinski."

a. In the first case, everyone involved in that were (apparently at the time) consenting adults.

b. In the second case, his wife apparently didn't care; so why should we?

c. In the third case, IMO back then it was an attempt to entrap him in a lie about something that had nothing to do with the investigation so as to cast doubt about his credibility on all other issues. (Kind of reminds me a little of the FBI tactics with Flynn asking him something they knew he would not reveal as he would have considered it classified, then hitting him with a lying to investigators charge.)

Having said all that:

2. One clear difference between Trump/Stormy and Clinton/Lewinski is that Monica was an employee of the President's office, and relationships between Manager's and subordinates (even when mutually agreeable) is still considered a no-no for all sorts of reasons.

Meanwhile, Stormy was just a gold-digger one night stand back in the day long prior to Trump's holding current office. The fact he tried to keep it a secret so holier-than-thou types wouldn't be "offended" was just good (and typical) campaign tactics.

WRONG. They are just bashing her. The three stories above were all bashing her or questioning her story. Only the first even pretended to be neutral. And it does have everything to do w/him being President since the silencing happened right before the election. Imagine if any other politician did this, you'd be livid.

Yeah? And CNN, MSNBC, etc. are all using it to bash the President; while both she and her lawyer are feeding them salacious ammunition both to keep her in the public eyes and to gain sympathy for her "legal case."

IMO that's what you are all up in arms about...in your mind EVERYONE should agree with you and EVERYONE should bash the President because it is the "moral" thing to do. :roll:

I don't buy into sex scandals unless they are directly related to a criminal case at bar (rape, child molestation, etc.). No, what happens between two consenting adults is their business. :coffeepap:

lol...really Cap'n? Really really? I mean, I know that Fox News is the epitome of exemplary in the department of not being salacious with their negativity but...

:lamo

...sorry, just can't. And neither can you, sorry bud, you know it, I know it, we all know it. Not saying any of your other news venues are any better, but let's not get carried away re: Fox...doesn't look good on ya, pal... ;)

Yes my friend, I can. Why?

Partly for the reasons I posted in responses herein above.

Partly because I really think that FOX news has to be more over the top, because it is one major network espousing conservative views against almost the entirety of the remaining Progressive MSM, which spends hours a day screaming and caterwauling about anything and everything to make the President look bad.

It does not mean that I fail to recognize our current President has faults. It is just that calling FOX news biased and burying news while the rest of the MSM does exactly the same thing with news about the President's positive acts (either not reporting them at all, or doing so in as denigrating a way as possible and then spinning off into more negatives to distract their audience) is IMO being either willfully blind or disingenuous. :shrug:
 
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If by affair you mean Daniels or whatever her name is, that was years ago. Has nothing to do with the presidency.

I would be concerned if I felt the issue had some implication, but I don't see it. Affairs are not illegal. Covering them up is not illegal. I'm not sure if paying off someone is illegal or not. If it is, then we need to rethink Bill Clinton.

I see this as another get Trump for something issue. If not Trump, then those around him, and those around them.

None of which will make Hillary president. It could well make President Trump a two term president.

covering them up with campaign funds and intimidating people before an election is damn sure illegal. That is what is at hand here. I know Trumpbots don't care because they would polish Trump's knob if it was in front of them but decent folk do still care.
 
And its equally possible that he didnt. Get some facts, then attack.

That's why I said "possibly" DUH. Do you bother reading or just seeing what you want to see?
 
NO! That is a spin based on wild speculation that your side of the argument is trying to find evidence for. A belief based on absolutely NO EVIDENCE, that if Trump arranged a pay-off it just had to do with illegal use of campaign funds.

Actually there is evidence of it hence the FBI seizing of cohen's documents related to the payoff. So despite your amateur hour whining and griping, I'll still take the word of the FBI over a Trumpbot.

As for Bill Clinton you say you were for his impeachment for lying so that should hold true for Trump should he be lying right?
 
Actually there is evidence of it hence the FBI seizing of cohen's documents related to the payoff. So despite your amateur hour whining and griping, I'll still take the word of the FBI over a Trumpbot.

(I'll ignore the typical blatant ad hom this once...:roll: )

Nope (not yet):

Public corruption prosecutors in the U.S. Attorney's office in Manhattan are trying to determine if there was any fraud related to the payments to Karen McDougal and Stormy Daniels, according to one of the people. McDougal, a former playmate, was paid $150,000 by the parent company of the National Enquirer for her story, though the magazine never published it. Cohen paid $130,000 to Daniels as part of an agreement, made before the 2016 election, to keep her from going public with her allegations.

The payments appear to be part of a pattern of Trump' self-described fixer trying to shield the businessman-turned-politician from embarrassing press by buying women's silence.
Michael Cohen raid related to payments to women accusing Trump, sources say | WJLA

As for Bill Clinton you say you were for his impeachment for lying so that should hold true for Trump should he be lying right?

Again, Nope.

...As for "whining about Bill Clinton?"

1. I didn't "whine" back then; I was openly opposed to efforts to impeach him based on "lying about Monica Lewinski."

Reading for comprehension without assumption bias is something I'd highly recommend for you. :coffeepap:
 
covering them up with campaign funds and intimidating people before an election is damn sure illegal. That is what is at hand here. I know Trumpbots don't care because they would polish Trump's knob if it was in front of them but decent folk do still care.

Is there evidence of any of this? Cohen supposedly paid this bribe out of picket. Who got intimated?

At least I guess we're finally done with tge Russkie thing. Or are we?

Probably Hannity had something to do with it.
 
Yes my friend, I can. Why?

Partly for the reasons I posted in responses herein above.

Partly because I really think that FOX news has to be more over the top, because it is one major network espousing conservative views against almost the entirety of the remaining Progressive MSM, which spends hours a day screaming and caterwauling about anything and everything to make the President look bad.

It does not mean that I fail to recognize our current President has faults. It is just that calling FOX news biased and burying news while the rest of the MSM does exactly the same thing with news about the President's positive acts (either not reporting them at all, or doing so in as denigrating a way as possible and then spinning off into more negatives to distract their audience) is IMO being either willfully blind or disingenuous. :shrug:


I hear you, man...it's why I said:

Not saying any of your other news venues are any better, but let's not get carried away re: Fox

This is why I'm constantly on the soap box preaching about the ridiculousness of partisanship. It's not because one side is less partisan than the other. It's because partisanship prevents the American people from working together to find a solution that works for everyone, and create a society where everyone belongs. You guys are party to your own castration. This is why it is important to be honest with each other, regardless of what the media or your politicians tell you to do. It might feel like a loss to be honest about the failings of your own institutions, but perhaps in doing so you open the dialogue for the "other side" to admit the same thing. That out of the way, perhaps you can do something about it.

If you think that's naive, or unrealistic, my response would be: Then the American dream truly is dead.

Fox doesn't need to be "over the top", and the fact that the news outlets of "the other side" do it shouldn't be a justification or free pass for your own. If we fail to hold our own institutions accountable, how can we expect others to do the same?

I admit that I tend to fact check right biased publications more than left biased. But regardless of the lean, once a venue moves more than a quarter of the way outside the middle I fact check everything. One has to. I understand your frustration, and I can understand why "your side" feels under attack...but you kinda asked for it when when you (universal you, Cap'n, I can't remember if you said you voted one way or the other - though I'm pretty sure Hillary wasn't your pick...hehe...but for some reason you strike me as an Independent kinda guy) elected a guy who prioritized flipping off "the rest" of your fellow citizens...not to mention the media. (I commented on this before, but sadly you didn't take the bait...it's a chat I'd love to have with you one day, though). But at the end of the day the only folks who get to claim the high road are those that stick to it. My advice, to shamelessly rip off a golden oldie, is be the change you want to see in the world. Start by demanding accountability on "your side"...without doing that you cannot expect the same from "the other".
 
Fox News frequently also ignores Trump dumb twitter habits, and never criticizes him for them. Also during weekends it seems Trump watches Fox News all day. There's been times when I'm watching the network, and then an hour later the President tweets something one of the hosts says. Sometimes it's live tweeting too.

Now the stormy thing is interesting, but before you say, it's VOX! blah, blah, blah fake news. Please try to actually argue a literate point and try to find a time when Fox News has mentioned Stormy. Also an analysis about all the times Fox News mentioned Clinton VS Stormy would be helpful in your arguments that Vox and not Fox is fake news.





https://www.vox.com/2018/3/21/17144180/fox-news-stormy-daniels-porn-trump

I do realize that in the article CNN's Stormy graph looks like a erect penis. That's hilarious. But that's probably just because they're the ones who've been getting all the interviews w/her and avenatti. I'm sure Fox could fight for them if they wanted to. It's clear they don't.

CNN never really criticized Hillary. Both CNN and Fox News are biased as hell.
 
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