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Founder of Proud Boys sues over being labeled hate group

Tanngrisnir said:
LOL! Mebbe if you step up on your tippy toes and puff out your chest when you type things like that, people might take such impotent rage more seriously.
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Well thats a stupid comment. Thanks for dropping by.
 
Fletch said:
So what you have is a masked man assaulting someone and you side with the fascist throwing the punch. Good of you to expose your fascist tendencies for all to see.
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Imagine if somebody had bitch slapped hitler to the ground the first time he opened his mouth about naziism.

And every other time.

I do not believe in force monopolies. They raise asshole to a protected class, so assholery runs rampant.

Including all the assholery #metoo is addressing.
 
ludin said:
his view is kinda racist isn't it?
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Of course it is, but you are allowed to make racist statements against white men apparently.
 
Tanngrisnir said:
Excellent. Then it was perfectly tailored to what I was responding to.

How macho!
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So you agree your comment was stupid. You are maturing right before our eyes.
 
Fletch said:
So you agree your comment was stupid. You are maturing right before our eyes.
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I agree that I specifically tailored it to fit your empty posturing and faux-macho fist-shaking.

Good to hear you admit that the post of yours that I responded to was stupid.
 
beefheart said:
A bunch of racist incels. Yes, they are a hate group.

My nephew had to cover them for a documentary, they are a scary group.
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I thought they were founded to basically militantly combat all the violent far-left mobs that have surfaced and cause problems for public speakers and events that are anywhere to the right of Mao. Since you have a friend that did a documentary, do you have quotes, statements, policies, or actions they've taken to denote them as being racist or white supremacists?
 
Tanngrisnir said:
I agree that I specifically tailored it to fit your empty posturing and faux-macho fist-shaking.

Good to hear you admit that the post of yours that I responded to was stupid.
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Ah, I see. You simply dont know what you are talking about. Such a shame. And here I thought you might someday soon contribute something to this site other than baiting and trolling. Oh well.
 
Fletch said:
I didnt say he was a great guy, I said that you cheer on fascist behavior so youre no better.
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Another sign that someone might suffer from "resentment" and victimhood issues...is the false (and very frequent) stated equivalence between racism and bigotry....and opposition to racism and bigotry.

We can all agree that violence against others is not a good thing. Or, at least, most of us can.

That said, active opposition to racism is NOT the same as racism. It's the opposite of it.

Finally, you really, really do need to do some homework on the history and ideology that defines Fascism. It's not a "left" ideology. And, for that matter, it has NOTHING to do with Socialism (as so many conservatives laughingly believe). You right wingers love to try to "reappropriate" common words and terms in the English lexicon, but you can't get away with that outside the comfy confines of the alt-right blogs or social circles you come from. Sorry, but you're going to have to step your game up if you expect to hold substantive discussions around here.
 
Rogue Valley said:
Founder of Proud Boys sues over being labeled hate group

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Proud Boys members wearing their uniform - a black Fred Perry polo shirt with gold piping.



Wikipedia describes them as a far-right neo-fascist organization that promotes white nationalism, violence, and anti-Muslim themes. The Proud Boys regularly attend white supremacy and pro-Confederate rally's in the US and are affiliated with white supremacist Richard Spencer. The group attempted to re-brand itself after the deadly 2017 "Unite the Right" rally in Charlottesville, Virginia. McInnes and the Proud Boys organization have been banned by Facebook, Instagram, iTunes, and YouTube.

Related: Proud Boys Founder Sues SPLC Over Hate Group Label
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"IF" those description and stories are true then yes they are a hate group :shrug:
 
ultmd said:
Another sign that someone might suffer from "resentment" and victimhood issues...is the false (and very frequent) stated equivalence between racism and bigotry....and opposition to racism and bigotry.

We can all agree that violence against others is not a good thing. Or, at least, most of us can.

That said, active opposition to racism is NOT the same as racism. It's the opposite of it.

Finally, you really, really do need to do some homework on the history and ideology that defines Fascism. It's not a "left" ideology. And, for that matter, it has NOTHING to do with Socialism (as so many conservatives laughingly believe). You right wingers love to try to "reappropriate" common words and terms in the English lexicon, but you can't get away with that outside the comfy confines of the alt-right blogs or social circles you come from. Sorry, but you're going to have to step your game up if you expect to hold substantive discussions around here.
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LOL. Sorry but that last line of yours is hilarious. The rest of your post is just liberal propaganda. Of course fascism is a form of socialism. You can label it right wing socialism if you like as opposed to left wing socialism--communism--but it arose from welfare statist, social democrat Weimar republic. There is no comparable movement in the US and never has been. The right in this country is for liberty and limited government. In fact, the farther right you go, the smaller the government. Fascism cant exist in that environment. It can only exist where the state is all powerful and the individual irrelevant.
 
Fletch said:
Ah, I see. You simply dont know what you are talking about. Such a shame. And here I thought you might someday soon contribute something to this site other than baiting and trolling. Oh well.
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LOL! Oh, rest assured, I know empty posturing and faux-macho when I see it.

Sorry that triggers you so.
 
Tanngrisnir said:
LOL! Oh, rest assured, I know empty posturing and faux-macho when I see it.

Sorry that triggers you so.
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Ill bet you do. After all, baiting, trolling, empty posturing and faux macho kind of defines your posting style in every thread you enter. The day you actually enter a conversation and add something intelligent or interesting will be the first. Until then you seem content to do the only things youve been trained to do.
 
How sad must it be for a person to feel the need to belong to a group that is predicated on “We are better than those guys” and when asked why they believe that the answer is “Reasons!”
 
SoCal said:
FBI: Hate crimes in U.S., CA surge in first year of Trump’s presidency

It rots from the head, a hateful president gives a green light to his hateful followers. Unless you don't believe our FBI...
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Funny how hate crime surged in the biggest democratic states were Trump lost by over 3 million. Maybe its not Trump but democrats.
 
jdog21 said:
Funny how hate crime surged in the biggest democratic states were Trump lost by over 3 million. Maybe its not Trump but democrats.
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Good point. You would think hate crimes would be soaring in MAGA Country like Alabama. There were 9 reported incidents of hate crime in Alabama. 1094 in California. Ill bet Mississippi had hundreds. Nope, they had 1. The progressive mecca of Massachusetts had 427

https://ucr.fbi.gov/hate-crime/2017/topic-pages/tables/table-12.xls
 
Fletch said:
...if you are now claiming that 'a majority of whites are not victimizers' how can you claim that they arent victims of that malicious and false charge?
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Fletch said:
...Not sure what you want.
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The words highlighted above implies that I said 'a majority of whites are victimizers'. I never said that because I don't believe it and besides, it's not true.

What I want, is for you to stop making that false claim...
 
jdog21 said:
Funny how hate crime surged in the biggest democratic states were Trump lost by over 3 million. Maybe its not Trump but democrats.
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Over 3 million disgruntled Repubs? That's a lot of built up hate. Maybe they took their frustration out by committing hate crimes on their victims of color?
 
Fletch said:
Good point. You would think hate crimes would be soaring in MAGA Country like Alabama. There were 9 reported incidents of hate crime in Alabama. 1094 in California. Ill bet Mississippi had hundreds. Nope, they had 1. The progressive mecca of Massachusetts had 427

https://ucr.fbi.gov/hate-crime/2017/topic-pages/tables/table-12.xls
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Mississippi doesn't count hate crimes that aren't against little blonde girls.
And those must be be by big bad black men.
 
Fletch said:
Ill bet you do. After all, baiting, trolling, empty posturing and faux macho kind of defines your posting style in every thread you enter. The day you actually enter a conversation and add something intelligent or interesting will be the first. Until then you seem content to do the only things youve been trained to do.
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Nah. I just have to read your posts. Chock full of what you're whining about.

Fun, though, that you harbor the conceit that you'd ever recognize intelligent contributions.
 
trblmkr said:
Mississippi doesn't count hate crimes that aren't against little blonde girls.
And those must be be by big bad black men.
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Got any facts to back up that crap?
 
Tanngrisnir said:
Nah. I just have to read your posts. Chock full of what you're whining about.

Fun, though, that you harbor the conceit that you'd ever recognize intelligent contributions.
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Well give it a try sometime and we can find out.
 
Fishking said:
I thought they were founded to basically militantly combat all the violent far-left mobs that have surfaced and cause problems for public speakers and events that are anywhere to the right of Mao. Since you have a friend that did a documentary, do you have quotes, statements, policies, or actions they've taken to denote them as being racist or white supremacists?
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Check out “Alt Right” on Netflix. The footage at Charlottesville is disturbing. Lots o violent and toothless white trash.The doc focuses primarily on Richard Spencer who is an in the closet homosexual and an alcoholic. I have a hunch that he’s rallying scores of young men/proud boys for his own personal sausage parties. :lol:
 
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