• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

Fighting corruption???

ocean515 said:
Don't you think there is a difference between what Biden did, and what President's Trumps children do?

Were you disgusted to learn that President Kennedy hired his brother to be his closest advisor and Attorney General?
Click to expand...

Qatars billion dollar bailout for Jared Kushner was corrupt to the gills.
 
ocean515 said:
There is nothing wrong with nepotism. Having people you know, and have confidence in, be part of the team, is a valuable asset.

If they are inept, and cause damage, then they are a problem. But that would be no different than any employee.
Click to expand...

Yep, if you hire the bankers son/daughter (to do nothing at a great salary) then you are much more likely to be viewed as a much better credit risk. ;)
 
ocean515 said:
It would appear so.

Seems you have no information to prove otherwise, outside of your opinion, which is clearly driven by your extreme bias.
Click to expand...

They are completely unqualified for their positions.

They could not get the required security clearances for their positions.

UNQUALIFIED!!!!
 
ttwtt78640 said:
Yep, if you hire the bankers son/daughter (to do nothing at a great salary) then you are much more likely to be viewed as a much better credit risk. ;)
Click to expand...

Hiring someone else's child to gain favor is not nepotism. However it might be a brilliant move if the parent has the power to protect you.
 
GDViking said:
They are completely unqualified for their positions.

They could not get the required security clearances for their positions.

UNQUALIFIED!!!!
Click to expand...

Ok. Outside of your opinion, and yelling, what proof is there that the work they have done has been inferior?

A great argument could be made that President Obama was unqualified to hold office, but I haven't seen any of his supporters say he was unqualified to hold the office.

The issue in not qualification for a new job, it's what you do after getting it.

I've seen nothing, even in the left's fake news media, to suggest the President's children have done a poor job.
 
ocean515 said:
We've been discussing the President's children. Are you now shifting gears, since you have been unable to support your claims?

It's been my observation such shifts are the result of a lost argument and come from a place of desperation.
Click to expand...

The topic of the thread is actually Biden. When pressed, none of you can provide one single shred of evidence of any kind of corruption other than Trump's tweets. Your outrage is not genuine, you don't care about Trump's actual crimes and you can't back up your wild conspiracy theories.
 
ocean515 said:
Ok. Outside of your opinion, and yelling, what proof is there that the work they have done has been inferior?

A great argument could be made that President Obama was unqualified to hold office, but I haven't seen any of his supporters say he was unqualified to hold the office.

The issue in not qualification for a new job, it's what you do after getting it.

I've seen nothing, even in the left's fake news media, to suggest the President's children have done a poor job.
Click to expand...


I have seen no evidence they have done anything whatsoever.

Can you list some their accomplishments?
 
GDViking said:
I have seen no evidence they have done anything whatsoever.

Can you list some their accomplishments?
Click to expand...

Yes I can list them.

But obviously you didn't even try to find anything, so I'm going to invest the same amount of time you did on the point.
 
ocean515 said:
Hiring someone else's child to gain favor is not nepotism. However it might be a brilliant move if the parent has the power to protect you.
Click to expand...

True and Joe Biden did not hire his son Hunter. Joe Biden did make it quite clear that he had loads of power and influence over getting/delivering USAID funds to Ukrainian energy companies. Joe Biden is very good at saying that his son (and by extension who his son works for?) is not corrupt. It's not as if Joe Biden did not know that corrupt practices were common in the Ukrainian government, but it would be seen as very corrupt (by Joe Biden) if a Ukrainian energy company, who just happens to employ his son, did not get a "fair" piece of that USAID energy development funding. ;)
 
RabidAlpaca said:
So Jared, with no experience in anything political or international negotiations, is completely qualified to hold half a dozen important positions in the Trump administration, but Biden's son isn't qualified to work for an oil company. Go ahead and prove that one, chief.
Click to expand...

Jared assisted Trump in 2016 campaign which defeated the most qualified person ever to run.

The folks that are career politicians have F up the ME for so many years new blood is good idea.

Whining never stops.
 
redbeer said:
Joe Biden says he was fighting corruption in Ukraine, hence the need to fire the corrupt prosecutor. But hey wait a minute.....over there fighting corruption, but then has his son land a million dollar job with zero experience. How is this fighting corruption? Ole Joe just thinks we are all stupid, I guess. Just another crooked democrat under the Obama years profiting off pay for play.
Click to expand...

Have you "already" forgotten how Michael Cohen was paid millions by corporations just "hoping" to get closer to Trump. Could it possibly be that Hunter got that job because the Ukrainians were trying to get close to Joe and therefore to Obama?

Was Trump guilty of corruption because Michael took the bribe money?
 
ocean515 said:
Yes I can list them.

But obviously you didn't even try to find anything, so I'm going to invest the same amount of time you did on the point.
Click to expand...

I accept your surrender...
 
ocean515 said:
I was looking for facts, not opinion and supposition from your fake news media.

If that's all you got, then there is nothing to discuss and I'll consider your accusation for what it is.
Click to expand...
Could you possibly be anymore intellectually dishonest, ocean515?

Reuters wasn't an opinion and the Guardian was an editorial based on factual evidence. So now what...are you going to call me names?
 
Moot said:
Could you possibly be anymore intellectually dishonest, ocean515?

Reuters wasn't an opinion and the Guardian was an editorial based on factual evidence. So now what...are you going to call me names?
Click to expand...

I was looking for facts, not opinion and supposition from your fake news media.

If that's all you got, then there is nothing to discuss and I'll consider your accusation for what it is.
 
redbeer said:
Joe Biden says he was fighting corruption in Ukraine, hence the need to fire the corrupt prosecutor. But hey wait a minute.....over there fighting corruption, but then has his son land a million dollar job with zero experience. How is this fighting corruption? Ole Joe just thinks we are all stupid, I guess. Just another crooked democrat under the Obama years profiting off pay for play.
Click to expand...

Trump also said he was just fighting corruption in Ukraine. Problem is, the only "corruption" he mentioned was two old items that are no longer ongoing (and beneficial to only himself and Putin). Do you also dislike this type of "corruption fighting"?
 
ocean515 said:
Yes I can list them.

But obviously you didn't even try to find anything, so I'm going to invest the same amount of time you did on the point.
Click to expand...

Why anyone bothers with you is beyond me. You're the biggest waste of time and space on DP.
 
ocean515 said:
I was looking for facts, not opinion and supposition from your fake news media.

If that's all you got, then there is nothing to discuss and I'll consider your accusation for what it is.
Click to expand...

You do that.
 
Moot said:
Why anyone bothers with you is beyond me. You're the biggest waste of time and space on DP.
Click to expand...

I'm not sure a full scale personal attack is in keeping with the TOS and forum rules.

You should think about that.

I'll put in the same amount of effort someone else is willing to put in.

When someone says they can't find a single thing about someone who is in the news constantly, it's pretty clear they didn't even look.

So why should I?

Keep that in mind next time you want to direct such extreme insults towards another poster.
 
redbeer said:
Joe Biden says he was fighting corruption in Ukraine, hence the need to fire the corrupt prosecutor. But hey wait a minute.....over there fighting corruption, but then has his son land a million dollar job with zero experience. How is this fighting corruption? Ole Joe just thinks we are all stupid, I guess. Just another crooked democrat under the Obama years profiting off pay for play.
Click to expand...

I assume you are referring to Hunter's $50k per month job sitting the board of a Ukraine Natural Gas company. I am for one only surprised they were not paying Hunter more. Hunter needed no Natural Gas industry to be of value to Borisma. The mere presence of the son of the VP of the United States sitting that board in Ukraine even if he simply took up space, like a tree stump was worth every penny of $50k per month. Hunter has never quibbled about the fact that his entire career has been based on his last name.

I would be more pleased if these kids with famous fathers would get a real job. However i am not some naive fool on the topic. Grow up people!
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom