Fentanyl deaths from 'Mexican oxy' pills hit Arizona hard

[trixare4kids]

so are you going to build a wall across all of our oceans as well? and stop all ships from coming? What about planes? You do realize that much of our fentanyl is from CHINA?

I will once you stop using the strawman fallacy when debating.

 

[AlphaOmega]

Boy or girl and location, please. Then I'll answer.

Sorry, no need, I already got the response I wanted the readers to see.

 

[Carjosse]

So, that was a yes correct?

Yes, they do use other methods. But a wall would not affect them.

 

[SLC]

Yes, Bud. I've heard that argument before. I refuse to buy that Dems actually consciously want to turn their back on national security. Letting illegals into TX won't help win votes anyway, because undocumented folks are not allowed to vote. My recollection is that TX implemented some pretty draconian voter ID requirements a few years ago when Scalia and crew shredded the voting rights act in favor of TX GOP politicians. So the chances of illegals voting illegally is even more implausible.



I am on my way to check it out

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I don't get it! How does this pertain to ME?

No idea why but I thought of you when I saw Dirk's pic. :lol:

Its true that illegals can't vote but their kids can in 18 short years. This illegal immigration thing has been going on for awhile now and we have lots of newly minted American citizens, who's parents are illegal, that are at voting age are nearing voting age every year. The Dems are playing the long game. Flip Texas to a Blue State and its game over for Republicans. With the Black voting block crumbling around the edges the Dems need another voting block to shore them up.

If you call having to show a photo ID Draconian ...I guess.:lol:

Here are the things Texas will accept for voter identification

•Texas Driver License issued by the Texas Department of Public Safety (DPS)
•Texas Election Identification Certificate issued by DPS
•Texas Personal Identification Card issued by DPS
•Texas Handgun License issued by DPS
•United States Military Identification Card containing the person’s photograph
•United States Citizenship Certificate containing the person’s photograph
•United States Passport (book or card)

•copy or original of a government document that shows the voter’s name and an address, including the voter’s voter registration certificate;
•copy of or original current utility bill;
•copy of or original bank statement;
•copy of or original government check;
•copy of or original paycheck; or
•copy of or original of (a) a certified domestic (from a U.S. state or territory) birth certificate or (b) a document confirming birth admissible in a court of law which establishes the voter’s identity (which may include a foreign birth document).

 

[AlphaOmega]

so are you going to build a wall across all of our oceans as well? and stop all ships from coming? What about planes? You do realize that much of our fentanyl is from CHINA?

Drugs from china shouldnt justify drugs from mexico. Do walls on your house work or are those walls different walls?

 

[chuckiechan]

It seems Democrats believe we have just the right number of deaths from drugs pouring across the border.

The right number of murders.

The right number of rapes.

The right amount of violent gangs.

The right number of illegal invaders sticking it to the poorest Americans.

This says nothing about the horrors going on for those risking their lives making the dangerous journey with dangerous criminals.

Well done Democrats. Well done.

Cartels have rights too, you know!

 

[trixare4kids]

So our drugs are coming in through checkpoints in tractor trailer loads...correct?

ALL drugs are coming in at border points! So are ALL of the illegals...Or so goes the Trump hater's latest narrative. :lol:
No border crisis at all. The only real crisis is Trump and Puuuuuuutin.

 

[trixare4kids]

Border agents seize $1.7 million in meth, in second largest drug bust this week | Fox News

Hidden compartments frequently.

What about all the drugs WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT that are coming across?
Your stats are meaningless when it comes to the BIG PICTURE....

 

[SLC]

Boy or girl and location, please. Then I'll answer.

Sadly mostly males.

 

[AlphaOmega]

What about all the drugs WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT that are coming across?
Your stats are meaningless when it comes to the BIG PICTURE....

Exactly...working with stats for a living, we can easily use them to match what we want. Their stats only show that the majority of drugs are captured at the checkpoint. It does not show in any way shape or form that they arent pouring across our borders where no one is watching. I mean gee who would have thought our checkpoints would catch the most drugs, I would have thought the traffic cop parked at the 711 on the border would have been the clear winner

 

[trixare4kids]

Exactly...working with stats for a living, we can easily use them to match what we want. Their stats only show that the majority of drugs are captured at the checkpoint. It does not show in any way shape or form that they arent pouring across our borders where no one is watching. I mean gee who would have thought our checkpoints would catch the most drugs, I would have thought the traffic cop parked at the 711 on the border would have been the clear winner

We know that lots of drugs are being apprehended by legal points of entry but what the left won't tell you is that lots of drugs, even MORE drugs are making it across our porous borders by drug mules.

 

[lurchadams]

Sorry, no need, I already got the response I wanted the readers to see.

Ok, you've made your choice, now I'm going to make mine.

 

[SLC]

We know that lots of drugs are being apprehended by legal points of entry but what the left won't tell you is that lots of drugs, even MORE drugs are making it across our porous borders by drug mules.

Yep the border is 2500 miles long and most of it is unsecured so we don't know what is successfully making its way across the border.

 

[Grand Mal]

It seems Democrats believe we have just the right number of deaths from drugs pouring across the border.

The right number of murders.

The right number of rapes.

The right amount of violent gangs.

The right number of illegal invaders sticking it to the poorest Americans.

This says nothing about the horrors going on for those risking their lives making the dangerous journey with dangerous criminals.

Well done Democrats. Well done.

What does your linked article have to do with Democrats? Anything?

 

[zimmer]

What does your linked article have to do with Democrats? Anything?

I sense frustration at Leftists having to face the fruits of their lies and insanity on this issue.

32-years ago a deal was made with Democrats to secure the border.

They lied and deceived, as Leftists throughout history have done. Lying to the people is a hallmark of being a Leftist. That and violence.

On this issue, Democrats seem indifferent to the suffering the millions upon millions of illegal invaders have wrought:

The murders.

The rapes.

Sticking it to the poorest Americans.

The violent crimes.

70,000 drug deaths alone last year.

The billions upon billions of tax payer money pissed away.

I surmise they figure it is just the right amount of criminality, and they want to ensure more misery pours over the border. They sure are aggressively fighting for open Borders and to tie the hands of ICE. Hell, they want to abolish ICE.

Why?

Why would the party of infanticide do this?

For the people?

Because they Love the children?

No.

Because they are insane anti-Americans.

 

[AlphaOmega]

Ok, you've made your choice, now I'm going to make mine.

Im happy for you.

 

[rickc]

It seems Democrats believe we have just the right number of deaths from drugs pouring across the border.

The right number of murders.

The right number of rapes.

The right amount of violent gangs.

The right number of illegal invaders sticking it to the poorest Americans.

This says nothing about the horrors going on for those risking their lives making the dangerous journey with dangerous criminals.

Well done Democrats. Well done.

You totally missed it. Yours and trumps wall won't stop the drugs coming through border checkpoints. Now as the democrats propose better technology and more manpower at these border crossings could reduce the flow of drugs.

On the subject of drugs how long have we had this war on drugs? Since the 60's? Did we not learn anything from the prohibition era? Bootleggers and violent crime syndicates. How is this different. As long as there is a market it will be supplied. Is it good that all that money goes into criminal hands? Surely not. Look not just here but how that money feeds crime all over central and south america, asia, Even Afganistan and other obscure countries.

 

[AlphaOmega]

We know that lots of drugs are being apprehended by legal points of entry but what the left won't tell you is that lots of drugs, even MORE drugs are making it across our porous borders by drug mules.

Secondly if what they say is True then they should close the border until the checkpoints are fixed. That is clearly a national emergency...oh wait these are the same people that want to legalize drugs. It's ok for little Johnny to die with a needle sticking in his arm but dammit we need to get rid of guns! Its ok for little Johnny to get run over by a drunk illegal but lets make meat illegal cuz cow flatulence will end the world in 12 years.

 

[JustHanging]

The Wall would free up more manpower for inspections.

Sorry, but this this wrong. Unlike apparently most of Trump's base, the rest of the world has heard of "ladders".

 

[JustHanging]

I sense frustration at Leftists having to face the fruits of their lies and insanity on this issue.

Yeah, trying to teach hardcore Trump supporters about "ladders" has been very frustrating. We explain the concept over and over, but they just can't figure it out. They just keep on drinking that kool-aid.

Remember when Trump told them putting solar panels on the wall was a good idea? And they believed him? :lamo

 

[Grand Mal]

I sense frustration at Leftists having to face the fruits of their lies and insanity on this issue.

32-years ago a deal was made with Democrats to secure the border.

They lied and deceived, as Leftists throughout history have done. Lying to the people is a hallmark of being a Leftist. That and violence.

On this issue, Democrats seem indifferent to the suffering the millions upon millions of illegal invaders have wrought:

The murders.

The rapes.

Sticking it to the poorest Americans.

The violent crimes.

70,000 drug deaths alone last year.

The billions upon billions of tax payer money pissed away.

I surmise they figure it is just the right amount of criminality, and they want to ensure more misery pours over the border. They sure are aggressively fighting for open Borders and to tie the hands of ICE. Hell, they want to abolish ICE.

Why?

Why would the party of infanticide do this?

For the people?

Because they Love the children?

No.

Because they are insane anti-Americans.

Much of that Fentanyl is counterfeit coming from China. Canadian cops occassionally bust big quantities. If stopping drugs is your worry, you need a northern wall, too.
We won't pay for it but fill your boots.

 

[zimmer]

Yeah, trying to teach hardcore Trump supporters about "ladders" has been very frustrating. We explain the concept over and over, but they just can't figure it out. They just keep on drinking that kool-aid.

Remember when Trump told them putting solar panels on the wall was a good idea? And they believed him? :lamo

Seems the walls where constructed have been very successful.

It seems you believe:

The murders are just the right number.

The rapes too.

Sticking it to the poorest Americans is wonderful.

The violent crimes is OK.

70,000 drug deaths alone last year is a good number. 20,000 more than died in Vietnam.

The billions upon billions of tax payer money pissed away is just fine.

You figure these illegals add the right amount of criminality, and Democrats want to ensure more misery pours over the border. They sure are aggressively fighting for open Borders and to tie the hands of ICE. Hell, they want to abolish ICE.

Why?

Why would the party of infanticide do this?

For the people?

Because they Love the children?

No.

Because they are insane anti-Americans.

 

[zimmer]

Much of that Fentanyl is counterfeit coming from China. Canadian cops occassionally bust big quantities. If stopping drugs is your worry, you need a northern wall, too.
We won't pay for it but fill your boots.

Do you have 12 to 30 million illegals?

If you did, you’d almost double your population.

You folks began bitching with the invaders since Trump has arrived.

Try being intellectually honest.

 

[SMTA]

It seems Democrats believe we have just the right number of deaths from drugs pouring across the border.

The right number of murders.

The right number of rapes.

The right amount of violent gangs.

The right number of illegal invaders sticking it to the poorest Americans.

This says nothing about the horrors going on for those risking their lives making the dangerous journey with dangerous criminals.

Well done Democrats. Well done.

Probably the stupidest post that you have made.

 

[Grand Mal]

Do you have 12 to 30 million illegals?

If you did, you’d almost double your population.

You folks began bitching with the invaders since Trump has arrived.

Try being intellectually honest.

Try making sense, about the topic. This thread is supposedly about stopping illegal drugs and you've taken it on a magical mystery tour of the radical right's fantasies of evil leftist plotting to destroy America by eating all the children or some such.