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Feminism.

CLAX1911 said:
So let's recap I have repeatedly asked you for any support whatsoever for your opinion and you've consistently not provided any that is unbiased.

Then you conflate my criticism political ideology with criticism of women.

Zing you suggest I have an attitude towards women and failed to tell me what it is?
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You deleted it... the feminist instilling fear of men comment... How convienent of you deleteing it.

However, let's show another example from someone else.. A good old conservative Texan


https://www.debatepolitics.com/gene...ion/307650-women-marching.html#post1068098185
 
RAMOSS said:
You deleted it..
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so you don't know what it said? Do you know why I deleted it?

the feminist instilling fear of men comment... How convienent of you deleteing it.
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I stand by my position that feminism is an effort to drive men and women against each other.

The only thing I have seen you post on here it is not at all an argument but posturing.

I questioned every one of your statements you supported none of them.

However, let's show another example from someone else.. A good old conservative Texan


https://www.debatepolitics.com/gene...ion/307650-women-marching.html#post1068098185
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That's one. You have 27 million more to go.
 
sangha said:
The US

Yes
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Agreed. I've always believed that if half our population is forced to register for a potential draft, the other half should be forced to register as well.
 
DiAnna said:
Agreed. I've always believed that if half our population is forced to register for a potential draft, the other half should be forced to register as well.
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I don't see that at all. There is nothing wrong with men fighting wars. Somehow we have managed to protect this country all this time - without sending our mothers and daughters off to be raped and beheaded overseas.
 
DiAnna said:
Agreed. I've always believed that if half our population is forced to register for a potential draft, the other half should be forced to register as well.
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Yes, but what I find laughable is that some men are arguing that the burden of spending a few minutes filling out the form for Selective Service is evidence of discrimination against men that is somehow the equivalent of the discrimination faced by many women
 
sangha said:
Yes, but what I find laughable is that some men are arguing that the burden of spending a few minutes filling out the form for Selective Service is evidence of discrimination against men that is somehow the equivalent of the discrimination faced by many women
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It shows women have more rights than men women have the right not to, men do not.
 
Feminism is a curse and a disease that needs to be eradicated.
 
Soopairik said:
Modern Feminism believes in things that aren't actually true, as well as over exaggerate certain things.
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I have seen that claim, I have not seen that claim shown to be true.
 
RAMOSS said:
I have seen that claim, I have not seen that claim shown to be true.
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Really? They say the reason for the pay gap is because women are still treated like second-class citizens in the workplace when in all actuality sexism does exist in the workplace via paychecks but it's not even close to being prevalent enough to be THE reason for the pay gap. But they don't like it when you point out the OTHER reasons why the gap is there. It MUST be because men are sexist.
 
Josie said:
Really? They say the reason for the pay gap is because women are still treated like second-class citizens in the workplace when in all actuality sexism does exist in the workplace via paychecks but it's not even close to being prevalent enough to be THE reason for the pay gap. But they don't like it when you point out the OTHER reasons why the gap is there. It MUST be because men are sexist.
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The wage gap statistic that is touted a lot is also inaccurate: it doesn't take certain key factors into account.
 
Jesse Booth said:
Who would have thought that averaging together everyone from CEOs to cashiers together would get you a result that lacks context?
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I pointed this out to some feminists a few years ago when it came out that there was a pay gap between males and females working at the White House under Obama. They said, “Oh c’mon - you can’t compare a high-ranking male’s salary to a cook’s salary!” Ding, ding! I think some of them finally started to get it.
 
Re feminism and the me too movement in particular. Why so little noise, why no defending the accusations hurled against Haley? Sure, a few lines here and there, but no uproar that I can see.
 
TheGoverness said:
Examples? Are you referring to the women that are being oppressed in underdeveloped nations?
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She never has logged back in after creating this thread. Weird.
 
RAMOSS said:
I don't understand the difference.
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Feminism used to be about equality of opportunity (achieved), equal pay for equal work (achieved), voting rights (achieved)

Modern Feminist are about equal outcome and intersectionality. Which are antithetical to Liberalism.

I think what happened is that since women have largely achieved what they were fighting for, the next generation that came behind them are looking for any opportunity to find problems in order to be an activist be a part of a movement.
 
Nap said:
Feminism used to be about equality of opportunity (achieved), equal pay for equal work (achieved), voting rights (achieved)

Modern Feminist are about equal outcome and intersectionality. Which are antithetical to Liberalism.

I think what happened is that since women have largely achieved what they were fighting for, the next generation that came behind them are looking for any opportunity to find problems in order to be an activist be a part of a movement.
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Well, out of the three, the only one that is 'achieved' is voting rights. The others are 'much improved but still not equal.
 
TheGoverness said:
Examples? Are you referring to the women that are being oppressed in underdeveloped nations?
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Do you think developed nations magically purged all prejudice from their shores? When did that happen?

TheGoverness said:
Yeah, I don't know what she's referring to. I certainly have never faced any gender-based segregation in my life.
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Oh great. That's about as valuable as when Lindsey Lohan claimed Weinstein was innocent because she had never been molested.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
I share your curiosity. Many of those (men and women) that were marching recently were simply expressing anti-Trump and anti-republicant views but used "women's issues" (is that term not gender based segregation?) as an excuse to do so.

Far too many seem to equate any lack of equality of outcome with being proof of a lack of equality of opportunity. Few lottery winners result even though many bought lottery tickets - the gross inequality of outcome (a stone cold, easily provable, indisputable fact) does not indicate any lack of equality of opportunity.
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Comparing the lottery to salary/promotion/etc. decisions made by humans (who we know to exercise preferences unconsciously) is an act of ignorance.
 
Absentglare said:
Comparing the lottery to salary/promotion/etc. decisions made by humans (who we know to exercise preferences unconsciously) is an act of ignorance.
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I never meant to imply that hiring or promotion are random decisions. The point remains that inequality of outcome alone is not indicative of a lack of equality of opportunity. Most NBA players are non-white but that is not, in any way, indicative of a racial bias in NBA player selection.
 
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