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Female Ranger School student dropped for pregnancy

apdst said:
You don't get recycled in Ranger school.
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You to appear to have no idea what you are talking about. First of all. Going to Ranger school does not mean you are going to Ranger Regiment. The majority of people who graduate ranger school never go to the 75th. Second yes you can be recycled in Ranger school. Happens all the time.

Calling people or for not knowing what they are talking about because they never served but then having no clue what you are talking about is pretty sad.
 
apdst said:
A lack of readiness and a breakdown in discipline will get soldiers killed.
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And male soldiers, as I pointed out, have been doing that themselves ever since there has been a US Army.
 
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apdst said:
No, you pass, or fail and if you fail you put in another request, depending on if you've been barred from attending the course. Ranger school is a voluntary course. They don't make you stay until you complete it.
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Again you are clueless. You should stop talking.
 
apdst said:
Should female soldiers be held to the same standard as male soldiers?
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Aside from strength? Yes, in as far as I am aware. And exceptional strength is not a necessity in most military roles.
 
Lursa said:
Aside from strength? Yes, in as far as I am aware. And exceptional strength is not a necessity in most military roles.
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So, you DO want women to be held to a lower standard. Got it.
 
apdst said:
Not for my time in the service. We'll just have to agree to disagree.
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I have my doubts.
You haven't shown a whole lot of knowledge in this thread
 
braindrain said:
You to appear to have no idea what you are talking about. First of all. Going to Ranger school does not mean you are going to Ranger Regiment. The majority of people who graduate ranger school never go to the 75th. Second yes you can be recycled in Ranger school. Happens all the time.

Calling people or for not knowing what they are talking about because they never served but then having no clue what you are talking about is pretty sad.
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I already know that and I never said it did. Just like being assigned to the 75th Ranger Regiment doesn't mean one is a Ranger.

No one is forced to go to, nor complete, nor repeat Ranger school. It's voluntary to attend and it's voluntary to stay and it's voluntary to leave.
 
apdst said:
I was in the service before you were born. Maybe I know something about it that you don't.
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Is that why you have been continually wrong in this thread.
 
apdst said:
I already know that and I never said it did. Just like being assigned to the 75th Ranger Regiment doesn't mean one is a Ranger.

No one is forced to go to, nor complete, nor repeat Ranger school. It's voluntary to attend and it's voluntary to stay and it's voluntary to leave.
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So when you said this
apdst said:
She should have disciplined enough to avoid getting pregnant. She's trying to become a member of one of the most elite infantry regiments in the world. She needs to act like it.
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What elite infantry Regiment were you talking about.

Yes if you are in the 75th you are a Ranger. You are wrong again.

Who said anything about being forced to do anything. That is you simply making crap up. Failing a part of Ranger School and going to hold to start again at a later date is called being recycled. Just like it's called recycled if you have to do that in SFQC. The same as it is in Airborne school and basic or AIT. Or any school that allows you to fail and not be sent back to your parent unit before restarting.

You got caught talking out your butt and rather then either just admit it or leave the thread you are only making yourself look worse. Sad really.
 
braindrain said:
So when you said this

What elite infantry Regiment were you talking about.

Yes if you are in the 75th you are a Ranger. You are wrong again.

Who said anything about being forced to do anything. That is you simply making crap up. Failing a part of Ranger School and going to hold to start again at a later date is called being recycled. Just like it's called recycled if you have to do that in SFQC. The same as it is in Airborne school and basic or AIT. Or any school that allows you to fail and not be sent back to your parent unit before restarting.

You got caught talking out your butt and rather then either just admit it or leave the thread you are only making yourself look worse. Sad really.
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You know for a fact that she ISN'T trying to become a member of the Ranger Regiment?

You're going to have back that stupid **** up, because everybody that goes to Ranger schools hopes to finish high enough to be selected for the regiment.

There are some serious Type A personalities that attend Ranger school. None of them show up hoping to just slide by. If you ever spend time around those soldiers, you'll know what I mean.

BCT and AIT aren't treated the same as elite schools, just so you know.
 
braindrain said:
Virtually every thing you have said in this thread has been wrong. Pretty much par for the course.
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Not even close. You're the one comparing Ranger and Airborne school to BCT and AIT. Different animals, different standards of failurem
 
Lursa said:
And so's any man that gets sick or injured and many times that's due to their own actions, not training.

And so the unit still ends up "not 100%." Er...the Army does plan for that :doh

How about some stats on women getting pregnant and being relieved and men getting sick/injured and getting relieved? Got any comparisons?
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A record 16 out of 100 Navy women are reassigned from ships to shore duty due to pregnancy, according to data obtained under the Freedom of Information Act by the Daily Caller News Foundation Investigative Group.

That number is up 2 percent from 2015, representing hundreds more who have to cut their deployments short, taxing both their unit’s manpower, military budgets and combat readiness. Further, such increases cast a shadow over the lofty gender integration goals set by former President Barack Obama.

Overall, women unexpectedly leave their stations on Navy ships as much as 50 percent more frequently to return to land duty, according to documents obtained from the Navy. The statistics were compiled by the Navy Personnel Command at the request of TheDCNF, covering the period from January 2015 to September 2016.

The evacuation of pregnant women is costly for the Navy. Jude Eden, a nationally known author about women in the military who served in 2004 as a Marine deployed to Iraq, said a single transfer can cost the Navy up to $30,000 for each woman trained for a specific task, then evacuated from an active duty ship and sent to land. That figure translates into $115 million in expenses for 2016 alone.

“This is an avoidable cost and expense, leaving a gap for other people to pick up the work slack,” Eden said.

https://stream.org/deployed-us-navy-pregnancy-problem-getting-worse/
 
apdst said:
You know for a fact that she ISN'T trying to become a member of the Ranger Regiment?

You're going to have back that stupid **** up, because everybody that goes to Ranger schools hopes to finish high enough to be selected for the regiment.

There are some serious Type A personalities that attend Ranger school. None of them show up hoping to just slide by. If you ever spend time around those soldiers, you'll know what I mean.

BCT and AIT aren't treated the same as elite schools, just so you know.
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Wow. Talk about pathetic. First you didn't say it and now I have to prove she isn't getting to go to the 75th despite there being zero indication she is. But not only pathetic it does a good job of demonstrating how dishonest you are.

Proving again you have zero idea what you are talking about. Here let me explain this to you since you clearly have zero clue what you are talking about.
The majority of 11Bs who are in the 75th (which are the majority of those in Regiment with a tab) entered the Army with an option 40 contract. That means that after basic and AIT and Airborne school they go to RASP, Ranger Assessment and Selection Program. If they pass that then they go to the 75th and wear the Scroll and are called Rangers. Sometime after that usually within the first year they go to Ranger School. And lots of people who go to Ranger School have zero desire to go to Regiment. SF guys go to Ranger School, SEALs and some Marines go as well as lots of folks who simply no desire to go to the Regiment. So again you are clueless.

You have proven over and over that you no virtually nothing on this topic. And here is a clue clown. I wear a Ranger Tab on my uniform. Right under my Special Forces tab. As do the majority of guys on my team. So how about you tell me more about the type of people who go to Ranger School.

No kidding that basic and AIT are not treated the same as elite schools. Who said they were. Still doesn't change the fact that people put in hold to wait to start again at a later date are called recycles because they have been recycled in the course.

So why don't you embarrass your self a bit more and talk some more about things you have zero idea about. If nothing else I am getting a good laugh at your silliness.
 
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apdst said:
Not even close. You're the one comparing Ranger and Airborne school to BCT and AIT. Different animals, different standards of failurem
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Yes you have been wrong over and over in this thread. As it has already been proven. Even the article you linked talks about recycles
The fact that they have different standards does not change the fact that if you fail a part or are injured and are put in to hold to wait to start again it is called a recycle.

This really isn't a hard thing to understand. Come on I am sure if you think really hard you can grasp the concept.
 
braindrain said:
Wow. Talk about pathetic. First you didn't say it and now I have to prove she isn't getting to go to the 75th despite there being zero indication she is. Like I said pathetic.

Proving again you have zero idea what you are talking about. Here let me explain this to you since you clearly have zero clue what you are talking about.
The majority of 11Bs who are in the 75th (which are the majority of those in Regiment with a tab) entered the Army with an option 40 contract. That means that after basic and AIT and Airborne school they go to RASP, Ranger Assessment and Selection Program. If they pass that then they go to the 75th and wear the Scroll and are called Rangers. Sometime after that usually within the first year they go to Ranger School. And lots of people who go to Ranger School have zero desire to go to Regiment. SF guys go to Ranger School, SEALs and some Marines go as well as lots of folks who simply no desire to go to the Regiment. So again you are clueless.

You have proven over and over that you no virtually nothing on this topic. And here is a clue clown. I wear a Ranger Tab on my uniform. Right under my Special Forces tab. As do the majority of guys on my team. So how about you tell me more about the type of people who go to Ranger School.

No kidding that basic and AIT are not treated the same as elite schools. Who said they were. Still doesn't change the fact that people put in hold to wait to start again at a later date are called recycles because they have been recycled in the course.

So why don't you embarrass your self a bit more and talk some more about things you have zero idea about. If nothing else I am getting a good laugh at your silliness.
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You're the one that says Ranger school drops outs are recycled just like BCT and AIT trainees are recycled. That's absolutely not how it works.
 
braindrain said:
Yes you have been wrong over and over in this thread. As it has already been proven. Even the article you linked talks about recycles
The fact that they have different standards does not change the fact that if you fail a part or are injured and are put in to hold to wait to start again it is called a recycle.

This really isn't a hard thing to understand. Come on I am sure if you think really hard you can grasp the concept.
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If was an SF soldier (an actual SF soldier) I wouldn't be on the internet bragging about it. That's a serious breach in intel security. That's just me, though...thinking like a real soldier.
 
apdst said:
You're the one that says Ranger school drops outs are recycled just like BCT and AIT trainees are recycled. That's absolutely not how it works.
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Another perfect example of you lack of integrity.

Way to go simply ignoring all of the post proving just how clueless you are.

A recycle is a recycle. It doesn't matter if it's at AIT, Airborne, Ranger School or the Q-course. Just because the standards are different for what gets you recycled does not mean it's not a recycle. Dropped from a course and put into hold to start again at a later date is called being recycled no matter what course you are in. Your own link proves you wrong.
Everyone who reads this thread can see it. Now you are just making yourself look worse if thats possible.
At this point a 6 year old could figure this out.
 
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