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FBI Love Bird Lisa Page Breaks Silence on Eve of DOJ IG Report

nota bene said:
Not feeling sorry for Page has nothing to do with admiring Trump or even agreeing with his policies. Not, I rush to add, that these are generally topics of interest.

I don't feel sorry for Lisa Page. She was using a government-issued phone, meaning that you and I paid for that phone and were paying for her time as she conducted her illicit affair. So what if Trump read her own words aloud to an audience? And she has the consummate gall to play victim? Boo hoo. Poor Lisa Page.
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I duly note where your sentiments lie. Obviously it is perfectly OK for Trump to carry on with his mocking, bullying, mysogeny.:roll: Be Best
 
JMR said:
I duly note where your sentiments lie. Obviously it is perfectly OK for Trump to carry on with his mocking, bullying, mysogeny.:roll: Be Best
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You don't understand my sentiments at all, JRM. And I don't understand yours either because you apparently think what Page did is okay and feel sorry for her.

I think what Page did is indefensible. Hers and Strzok's romantic texts are so juvenile and deserving of mockery, and they remind me of that scene in the movie M*A*S*H in which "Hotlips" is stealthily loosening the top of her robe and saying, "Oh, Frank, my lips are hot! Kiss my hot lips!"
 
dairyair said:
Are you claiming Mueller wasn't working in a US gov't position?
What was Mueller negotiating? I thought he was conducting an investigation.

Rudy wasn't being paid by anyone. At least legally. And he wasn't negotiating, it is looking like he was trying to bribe as the negotiating tactic. Which could be an illegal act. TBD.
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What I'm saying is many in the Mueller investigation who were leading investigations were private citizens...It appears Mueller wasn't doing much lead investigating or even controlling the investigating, for that matter.

Just how is Giuliani a private citizen, BTW?
 
nota bene said:
You don't understand my sentiments at all, JRM. And I don't understand yours either because you apparently think what Page did is okay and feel sorry for her.

I think what Page did is indefensible. Hers and Strzok's romantic texts are so juvenile and deserving of mockery, and they remind me of that scene in the movie M*A*S*H in which "Hotlips" is stealthily loosening the top of her robe and saying, "Oh, Frank, my lips are hot! Kiss my hot lips!"
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Incredible! When was that scene from Mash filmed? Do you find it more or less provocative than "grab them by the *****?"

I do not think what Page did is OK. I think she should be investigated, and if guilty of crimes she should be sentenced. I do not think it is OK for the President of the United States to stoop to juvenile behavior (much more juvenile than anything her texts contained) and publicly mock her.

I think I have a rather good understanding of your sentiments. You've repeated them enough now.
 
cabse5 said:
What I'm saying is many in the Mueller investigation who were leading investigations were private citizens...It appears Mueller wasn't doing much lead investigating or even controlling the investigating, for that matter.

Just how is Giuliani a private citizen, BTW?
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Giuliani is not employed by a gov't. Nor an elected gov't official. That needed explanation?

Mueller was hired by gov't to lead an investigation.
 
dairyair said:
Giuliani is not employed by a gov't. Nor an elected gov't official. That needed explanation?

Mueller was hired by gov't to lead an investigation.
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Giuliani is the lawyer to the president.
 
dairyair said:
Not a Dem. Terrible try.

Sending a pvt citizen to lead negotiations is NOT an official USA gov't negotiation. With holding military aid congress approved until a negotiation is completed is the very definition of quid pro quo and bribery. And more like extortion when the lead negotiator is not an official gov't employee.
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So Biden and firing the Prosecutor, that was quid pro quo and bribery?

You are throwing around terms very loosely when they have definite and specific definitions for a reason. Foreign aid almost always has strings attached. It may not be the cleanest politics but bribery is a bit far.
 
dairyair said:
Giuliani is not employed by a gov't. Nor an elected gov't official. That needed explanation?

Mueller was hired by gov't to lead an investigation.
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Giuliani is private lawyer to the president and has numerous attorney - client privilege interactions with the president.
 
cabse5 said:
Giuliani is private lawyer to the president and has numerous attorney - client privilege interactions with the president.
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Working for free. Personal to the prez. Not to the office of prez.

That is how I see a gov't employee vs a pvt employee.
 
cabse5 said:
This.
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Isn’t it a bit shady for the president’s private lawyer to be dealing with and seeking “information” Corrupt Ukrainian ex-prosecutors—Viktor Shokin, Yuri Lutsenko, and Kononenko Kulyk— who were fired for blocking anti-corruption efforts in Ukraine?

Isn’t it a bit shady for the president’s private lawyer to be peddling suspect information that was supplied by a Ukrainian oligarch hiding out in Vienna to Avoid criminal indictment? Dmytro Firtash, The oligarch in question, has been in contact with Guliani for a while now.

Isn’t it a bit shady for the president’s private lawyer to be peddling the conspiracy-laced narratives of John Solomon, a political operative masquerading as a “investigative journalist”?

Isn’t it shady that the president’s private lawyer is meeting with these shady characters and doing it to collect dirt on a political rival, the very act that this president is currently facing impeachment charges for committing?
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
Isn’t it a bit shady for the president’s private lawyer to be dealing with and seeking “information” Corrupt Ukrainian ex-prosecutors—Viktor Shokin, Yuri Lutsenko, and Kononenko Kulyk— who were fired for blocking anti-corruption efforts in Ukraine?

Isn’t it a bit shady for the president’s private lawyer to be peddling suspect information that was supplied by a Ukrainian oligarch hiding out in Vienna to Avoid criminal indictment? Dmytro Firtash, The oligarch in question, has been in contact with Guliani for a while now.

Isn’t it a bit shady for the president’s private lawyer to be peddling the conspiracy-laced narratives of John Solomon, a political operative masquerading as a “investigative journalist”?

Isn’t it shady that the president’s private lawyer is meeting with these shady characters and doing it to collect dirt on a political rival, the very act that this president is currently facing impeachment charges for committing?
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Who were the main investigators in the Mueller investigation and what were their affiliations to the Hillary campaign? Weissmann, for example, who was the prima facie lead investigator in the Mueller investigation was a heavy contributor to the Hilary campaign. Weissmann was, reportedly, taking a leave of absence from his head of criminal fraud section of the US dep't of justice job to be a part of the RussiaGate probe.

Mueller was a friend to Comey and a Never-Trumper.:lamo
 
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cabse5 said:
Giuliani is private lawyer to the president and has numerous attorney - client privilege interactions with the president.
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Private attorneys should not be involved with public, foreign policy of the United States. We have an entire, State department for that.
 
danielpalos said:
Private attorneys should not be involved with public, foreign policy of the United States. We have an entire, State department for that.
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As a side note, for example, private attorneys like Michael Avenatti (Stormy Weathers' private attorney) shouldn't be involved in public gov't?

As a second side note, as private attorney to Trump, Giuliani was determining the level of corruption of the Ukraine BEFORE THE 2016 ELECTION.
 
cabse5 said:
As a side note, for example, private attorneys like Michael Avenatti (Stormy Weathers' private attorney) shouldn't be involved in public gov't?

As a second side note, as private attorney to Trump, Giuliani was determining the level of corruption of the Ukraine BEFORE THE 2016 ELECTION.
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Why not, we can assume he has the franchise.

Foreign policy was being "preempted" for private policy purposes not public policy of the United States.
 
danielpalos said:
Why not, we can assume he has the franchise.

Foreign policy was being "preempted" for private policy purposes not public policy of the United States.
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If the Ukraine was also interfering in the 2016 election, it would benefit the whole US if changes were made in the Ukraine and the US.
 
danielpalos said:
We already have a State department and already had an Ambassador to that nation.
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Why didn't American ambassadors to the Ukraine object strenuously with the Obama administration when American military aid wasn't sent to the Ukraine after Russia took Crimea?
 
danielpalos said:
The political situation at the time?
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Russia re-took Crimea which used to be a part of the Ukraine during Obama's administration. Are you saying the Ukraine wasn't under as much threat from Russia during the Obama administration as Trump administration?:roll:
 
cabse5 said:
Russia re-took Crimea which used to be a part of the Ukraine during Obama's administration. Are you saying the Ukraine wasn't under as much threat from Russia during the Obama administration as Trump administration?:roll:
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I wasn't involved. We can "complain that better political solutions were not utilized to promote the general welfare of the People regardless of the Politics of the time."
 
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