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FBI investigation was in fact illegal and had no basis.

The real investigation and conclusion, not Fox news Brock opinion on cherry picked facts

Department of Justice (DOJ) Inspector General (IG) Michael Horowitz in Dec. 2019 released a 400-page report on his office’s investigation into Crossfire Hurricane, concluding that, despite a plethora of procedural failures, the FBI ultimately had a proper factual and legal basis for opening a full investigation into the Trump campaign’s possible coordination with Russia.



Earlier this month, the Department of Justice released a copy of a memo authored by Rosenstein which outlined the scope of former special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 presidential election and the potentially criminal activity Mueller was authorized to examine.

The memo showed that Rosenstein expressly approved of Mueller and his team investigating whether Carter Page committed any crimes by “colluding with the Russian government’s efforts to interfere with the 2016 election.” Rosenstein also approved probes into allegations against former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort, former campaign aide George Papadopoulos, and former National Security Advisor Michael Flynn.

Rod Rosenstein to Testify on Crossfire Hurricane | Law & Crime

No, there was no investigation into what happened before and he did NOT interview anyone who was already removed from the DOJ and FBI, you lie!
A.G Barr has already done extensive interviews outlining this point and what Durham is targeting?
 
I heard Bulldog Durham's investigation will be completed in a month to 6 weeks. A spokes person for the DOJ said today that Barr had appointed another U.S. attorney to assist Durham in the un-masking abuse. I also read that the U.S. attorney that Barr appointed to go over the Flynn case and it was said he commented that out of all the 98 U.S. attorneys none would have brought the Flynn case to trial.

I am not looking for any big report from Durham. I am waiting for the indictments to be announced. The whispers in D.C. are all the big names we are familiar with have all lawyered up.

Sigh....we vaguely recall what true justice looks like

I hope it returns
 
What will they do when Durham turns up nothing?

Unlike the Trump/Russia collusion hoax, this is NOT a fishing expedition. The Durham investigation only exists because there is real documented and testimonial evidence indicating that corruption and serious wrong doing took place.

You can hate Trump all you want, but that does not in any way, shape or form give federal law enforcement or government officials a free pass to do whatever the hell they like. Instead looking at this through the lens of politics, you need to acknowledge what took place and come out against this crap, because if you don't, the day will surely come when the government goes after you.

You either endorse government corruption or you oppose it... That's the bottom line here.

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I heard Bulldog Durham's investigation will be completed in a month to 6 weeks. A spokes person for the DOJ said today that Barr had appointed another U.S. attorney to assist Durham in the un-masking abuse. I also read that the U.S. attorney that Barr appointed to go over the Flynn case and it was said he commented that out of all the 98 U.S. attorneys none would have brought the Flynn case to trial.

I am not looking for any big report from Durham. I am waiting for the indictments to be announced. The whispers in D.C. are all the big names we are familiar with have all lawyered up.

Don't hold your breath, they are running down the clock until the election, Trump goes and this all disappears. Trump being the dumbass he is, listens to the psycho babble of Rosenstein, Barr et all for years instead of just declassifying every single document, phone call, messages, emails of all the players and putting them all out unredacted for the public to see. He falls for the "you can't do that, you are obstructing or interfering in justice"!
Guess what, he is the chief law officer of the US and he could have released it all, anyone who disobeyed, he can fire them one by one until it gets released.
 
Don't hold your breath, they are running down the clock until the election, Trump goes and this all disappears. Trump being the dumbass he is, listens to the psycho babble of Rosenstein, Barr et all for years instead of just declassifying every single document, phone call, messages, emails of all the players and putting them all out unredacted for the public to see. He falls for the "you can't do that, you are obstructing or interfering in justice"!
Guess what, he is the chief law officer of the US and he could have released it all, anyone who disobeyed, he can fire them one by one until it gets released.

I vehemently disagree with your take.
 
I hope you are correct, there are 1000's of dirty scumbag snakes slithering around in DC and politics.

The place is a cess pool, but I am seeing a number of white knights emerge who are fighting the good fight and in that I have hope.
 
Good enough to qualify as fact for the right. New day, new theory as to why trump is innocent of everything and either obama is going to jail or hillary or both depending on what day of the week it is.

Did you know obama had the audacity one day to not wear a flag pin on his lapel? Lock him up.

The GOP has failed miserably so far in trying to tar Biden and muddy the waters to try and help Trump's dying presidency. Expect more of this nonsense until November. They have nothing else.
 
Okay, Hannity.

Lol, these people are seriously coo coo for cocoa puffs!

"The whispers in D.C. are all the big names we are familiar with have lawyered up." Wow, you can't make this stuff up!
 
Lol, these people are seriously coo coo for cocoa puffs!

"The whispers in D.C. are all the big names we are familiar with have lawyered up." Wow, you can't make this stuff up!

I guarantee that sentence came out of Hannity's mouth. He does the "whispers", "big names" and "lawyered up".
 
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The place is a cess pool, but I am seeing a number of white knights emerge who are fighting the good fight and in that I have hope.

We get it.
 
The real investigation and conclusion, not Fox news Brock opinion on cherry picked facts

Department of Justice (DOJ) Inspector General (IG) Michael Horowitz in Dec. 2019 released a 400-page report on his office’s investigation into Crossfire Hurricane, concluding that, despite a plethora of procedural failures, the FBI ultimately had a proper factual and legal basis for opening a full investigation into the Trump campaign’s possible coordination with Russia.



Earlier this month, the Department of Justice released a copy of a memo authored by Rosenstein which outlined the scope of former special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 presidential election and the potentially criminal activity Mueller was authorized to examine.

The memo showed that Rosenstein expressly approved of Mueller and his team investigating whether Carter Page committed any crimes by “colluding with the Russian government’s efforts to interfere with the 2016 election.” Rosenstein also approved probes into allegations against former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort, former campaign aide George Papadopoulos, and former National Security Advisor Michael Flynn.

Rod Rosenstein to Testify on Crossfire Hurricane | Law & Crime

Yep-- and Page was never charged-- Flynn was not charged with a Logan Act violation for talking with Kisylak.
The crimes alleged of Manafort and PapaD had nothing to do with any sort of conspiracy.
So even back then, when Mueller was appointed, it was known the theory that Trump had conspired was Russia was without factual foundation.
And yet, there was an investigation throughout 2016...
 
its an opinion piece, not a news report

Nope it is a news report based on new information.
your failure to accept fact is why you lose.
also it is written by a 24 year veteran of the FBI so he knows what he is talking about.
 
You trolling bro? Or do you actually beleive this crap?

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The guy is
Kevin R. Brock, former assistant director of intelligence for the FBI, was an FBI special agent for 24 years and principal deputy director of the National Counterterrorism Center (NCTC). He is a founder and principal of NewStreet Global Solutions, which consults with private companies and public safety agencies on strategic mission technologies.

I think he knows what he is talking about when it comes to FBI protocols and what is allowed and what isn't allowed.
So the fact that you have no argument just shows your concession is noted.
 
Here's the best paragraph in the article:

Instead, the nation was left with an investigation of a presidential campaign that had no legitimate predication; that spawned a Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act intercept of a U.S. citizen that had no legitimate predication; that resulted in a confrontation with a new administration's national security adviser that had no legitimate predication; and, finally, that led to an expensive special counsel investigation that had no legitimate predication. No pattern-recognition software needed here.

I don't care if you are a democrat or a republican, a liberal or a conservative, or are pro-Trump or anti-Trump, this should be of great concern to you. We can't have this kind of corruption taking place in our government or you can kiss the country goodbye. The America we've known and loved for more than 200 years, the land of freedom and liberty, will vanish before our very eyes if we all don't rise up against this.

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No we can't but you won't get 1 leftist on this forum to admit to it.
orange man bad and TDS do not allow them to accept facts of what actually occurred
or what actually happened.

The only way to stop this from happening again is to go after the people that did it to the fullest extent of the law.
 
Your opinion. :roll:

no it is called expert opinion.

Kevin R. Brock, former assistant director of intelligence for the FBI, was an FBI special agent for 24 years and principal deputy director of the National Counterterrorism Center (NCTC). He is a founder and principal of NewStreet Global Solutions, which consults with private companies and public safety agencies on strategic mission technologies.
 
The real investigation and conclusion, not Fox news Brock opinion on cherry picked facts

Department of Justice (DOJ) Inspector General (IG) Michael Horowitz in Dec. 2019 released a 400-page report on his office’s investigation into Crossfire Hurricane, concluding that, despite a plethora of procedural failures, the FBI ultimately had a proper factual and legal basis for opening a full investigation into the Trump campaign’s possible coordination with Russia.



Earlier this month, the Department of Justice released a copy of a memo authored by Rosenstein which outlined the scope of former special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 presidential election and the potentially criminal activity Mueller was authorized to examine.

The memo showed that Rosenstein expressly approved of Mueller and his team investigating whether Carter Page committed any crimes by “colluding with the Russian government’s efforts to interfere with the 2016 election.” Rosenstein also approved probes into allegations against former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort, former campaign aide George Papadopoulos, and former National Security Advisor Michael Flynn.

Rod Rosenstein to Testify on Crossfire Hurricane | Law & Crime

The source wasn't fox news and the person that wrote it is
Kevin R. Brock, former assistant director of intelligence for the FBI, was an FBI special agent for 24 years and principal deputy director of the National Counterterrorism Center (NCTC). He is a founder and principal of NewStreet Global Solutions, which consults with private companies and public safety agencies on strategic mission technologies.

We know Rosenstein approved he was part of the coup attempt to remove a duly elected president.
 
Indictments soon?


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If this nation and our government had any sense of justice then yes there would be.
For some reason though our government has this thing about protecting itself (unless they don't like you) from
prosecution.

Comey, McCabe, Stzok, Paige should all be arrested and tried for conspiracy and sedition acts against a president.
The only real way to protect the agency at this point it to arrest the people involve and charge them and let them stand trial.

The evidence is clear they broke the law.

But once again we have leftist that support lawlessness as long as it gets someone they don't like.

Leftist are the rear danger to america and her freedom.
 
I heard Bulldog Durham's investigation will be completed in a month to 6 weeks. A spokes person for the DOJ said today that Barr had appointed another U.S. attorney to assist Durham in the un-masking abuse. I also read that the U.S. attorney that Barr appointed to go over the Flynn case and it was said he commented that out of all the 98 U.S. attorneys none would have brought the Flynn case to trial.

I am not looking for any big report from Durham. I am waiting for the indictments to be announced. The whispers in D.C. are all the big names we are familiar with have all lawyered up.

I heard Durham, like Horowitz is not going to provide enough dirt to complete the trump/ Barr exonoration scheme

Barr is already looking for a prosecutor to start an identical investigation, that the above men already did. On the short list is former DOJ prosecutor Sidney Powell, who is currently partnered with Barr on the Flynn defense team.
 
If this nation and our government had any sense of justice then yes there would be.
For some reason though our government has this thing about protecting itself (unless they don't like you) from
prosecution.

Comey, McCabe, Stzok, Paige should all be arrested and tried for conspiracy and sedition acts against a president.
The only real way to protect the agency at this point it to arrest the people involve and charge them and let them stand trial.

The evidence is clear they broke the law.

But once again we have leftist that support lawlessness as long as it gets someone they don't like.

Leftist are the rear danger to america and her freedom.

You are running out of time...
 
Worst WA scandal in our history

We becoming 3rd world...banana republic

I would say this is right up there with watergate.
it might even be bigger than watergate but unlike watergate you will not see
anyone pay for their crimes.

this will be shoved under the table in some political bull****.

This is how corrupt our system has become which means we need a new government.
 
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