Father Kills 14 Year-Old Son: 'He Would Rather Have a Dead Son Than a Gay Son'

[CaptainCourtesy]

It's NOT a mental illness... but it's a disorder.

I rest my case.

You said it yourself.

Smh.

Transsexuality is neither. I did NOT say it was a disorder. I rest MY case.

 

[CaptainCourtesy]

The sky is both green and yellow.

The grass is both red and green.

I am both male and female.

Somethings are EITHER OR. Biological sex is one of them.

Born with a penis and testicles? Male

Born with a vagina and big breasts? Female

It's not a social construct, not anymore than the notion of me slapping you upside the head is a social construct (we all know you just don't do that)

OK... so not only are you uneducated on transsexuality, but you are also uneducated on the different meanings of the word gender. It can be used in discussing one's biological sex and it can be used in discussing the social construct of one's actions or role. This is why a transsexual can be both. I understand that your black and white thinking is a simple way to understand a complex issue, but you miss far too many details of the issue for that response to have any merit.

 

[CaptainCourtesy]

Don't you think you're just projecting here though?

I'm insecure because I disagree with someone's lifestyle.

I think you're insecure if you don't want to be around my cigarette smoke or don't want to see me spit dip spit all over the ground.

What's wrong? You think i'm a monster for using tobacco?

Back to the topic at hand however, a transsexual will not personally affect me. But it will affect posterity. Guys want GIRLS. What will they do if guys dressed as girls start doing their thing without first telling their partner they are trans?

Sexual assault. That's what.

Transsexuals, if allowed en-masse, will completely screw up the dating game in ways we never thought possible.

Ever seen a sexy woman, but then found out it was a guy?

That's just misleading.

Girls should look like girls and guys should look like guys. Crucify me for it if you want.

I'll never allow my son or daughter to do this junk.

I actually care for my kids and for posterity.

Ah. So you are of the mindset that if your daughter wears revealing clothing and gets raped, it is 100% her fault that she got raped.

You really have no idea as to how to assign responsibility for behavior.

Oh, and after they turn 18, your kids can do as they choose... and if disowning them is in your lexicon, removing themselves from your life would be a good choice regardless of what they do.

 

[bubbabgone]

OK... so not only are you uneducated on transsexuality, but you are also uneducated on the different meanings of the word gender. It can be used in discussing one's biological sex and it can be used in discussing the social construct of one's actions or role. This is why a transsexual can be both. I understand that your black and white thinking is a simple way to understand a complex issue, but you miss far too many details of the issue for that response to have any merit.

This topic usually degenerates into discussions that invite way too much sloppy word selection ... and it's not always unintentional.

 

[CaptainCourtesy]

I'm willing to change my outlook on things if and when presented with enough evidence and a logical debate. So. Maybe I was wrong on that token.

It would *appear*, that you just presented some evidence and a logical.. argument.

The author of that book is so reputable, that the U.S. Supreme Court actually cited from his books when striking down 14 or so sodomy laws...

I admit I may have been somewhat wrong. I'll give you that.

Still.

It's natural, ok.

I still don't like it and will disown my kids fo.... well damn it. Why would I allow my kid to be gay, but not trans?

It would appear that my beliefs are likely fueled by rampant irrationality, ignorance and largely fear, still, I stand by my stance on transexuality. I don't like it.

Maybe as time goes on, my grandkids will be more open to trans than I am. Kind of like how my grandparents are more closed off to homosexuality than I am. I think this is a generational thing. I'm 18. Not old at all, but... transexuality is a bit, it's too early to start trying to.. do.. whatever THIS is y'know.

I believe segregated bathrooms will one day be seen as, kind of like how segregating bathrooms on race is seen today. And quite frankly that scares the **** out of me.

Idc either way.

My son and or daughter will not be trans. I forbid it.

If my kid ever became trans, I would send him or her away to live with someone else and would look into them getting emancipation from me. I would still disown my kids for this, if I am allowed a quick pun, transgression.

Trans is different from, say, cross dressing in the bedroom. Idc if you like to dress up as a girl and get pounded out, if that's your thing, hey, do you.. but at least don't try to CHANGE what Nature gave you FOR REAL. Outside of sex. That's just, wrong. That's arrogant. It's saying that you as a human (maybe 100 years old) are infinitely more wise than Earth which has been here for billions of years or more wise than our Universe which has been here for.. god knows how long.

Nature knows best. If you were supposed to be a girl, you would not have **** and balls between your legs. That's that.

As i told you, you are completely uneducated on transsexuality and it's causes. You are anti-science and are EXACTLY like homophobes of yesteryear. No difference.

In brief, one's "sex" occurs in two places in the body: one's genitals and one's brain. There is a part of one's brain that is "wired" to understand what one's sex is. This part of the brain develops during the 2nd trimester in the womb and is caused by either a testosterone hormonal surge in males and a lack thereof in females. On some rare occasions, a disconnect happens: the testosterone surge occurs in an anatomical female and does not occur in an anatomical male. In these cases, the individual is biologically and structurally "wired" to be the sex opposite of their genitalia. This causes one to be transsexual, the biological inconsistency of which I referred. This often creates Gender Dysphoric Disorder, extreme feelings of discomfort surrounding that inconsistency. All efforts to alter the brain to match the body have completely failed to alleviate symptoms of GDD. On the other side of that, matching the body to the brain (transitioning) eliminates the symptoms of GDD in at least 95% of all cases, bringing the body and brain into alignment.

So, in other words, your "opinion" is based on your feelings and bias and has nothing to do with logic or information. If you want more information, feel free to ask. I can provide quite a bit more.

 

[RamFel]

LMAO!!! thats what I thought! you wont do it because you cant because you haven't posted one single fact that makes your claim true :lol:


SO here we are in the same spot, we are waiting for you to back up your failed claims and post one fact that makes them true, please do so now, thanks!

You can be persistently delusional, that's for sure. There can be only on really solid explanation, I would think. Do you, without a shred of real evidence, truly believe that being gay for love and procreation is natural? That even the animals do it for love and procreation? That everyone should follow the animals? Because if all that is true, I would find that unbelievable and amazing.

At your request, I have more positively posted the requested, which you intend to reject anyway, proof.

 

[AGENT J]

You can be persistently delusional, that's for sure. There can be only on really solid explanation, I would think. Do you, without a shred of real evidence, truly believe that being gay for love and procreation is natural? That even the animals do it for love and procreation? That everyone should follow the animals? Because if all that is true, I would find that unbelievable and amazing.

At your request, I have more positively posted the requested, which you intend to reject anyway, proof.

So I see you still haven't posted ONE single fact that supports your claim LMAO. You can keep dodging all you want but we will keep asking. So, please let us know when you can and do so, thanks!

 

[RamFel]

So I see you still haven't posted ONE single fact that supports your claim LMAO. You can keep dodging all you want but we will keep asking. So, please let us know when you can and do so, thanks!

Thanks for confirming to me the lengths you're willing to go through in order to keep the things you claim to believe alive (which you're willing to continue doing, I'm sure.


I will discontinue communicating with you until the day arrives that you are willing to admit you have been wrong, and you will continue to be wrong as long as you are posting here.


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[zyzygy]

Thanks for confirming to me the lengths you're willing to go through in order to keep the things you claim to believe alive (which you're willing to continue doing, I'm sure.


I will discontinue communicating with you until the day arrives that you are willing to admit you have been wrong, and you will continue to be wrong as long as you are posting here.


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You have posted nothing that proves him wrong. You have been in the wrong through the entire thread. You ignore the evidence.

 

[Bodi]

Giovanni is John in Italian.

They live in America... right?

 

[Bodi]

Transsexuals, if allowed en-masse, will completely screw up the dating game in ways we never thought possible
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One of the funniest things I have ever read... great play at humor sir.

 

[AGENT J]

Thanks for confirming to me the lengths you're willing to go through in order to keep the things you claim to believe alive (which you're willing to continue doing, I'm sure.


I will discontinue communicating with you until the day arrives that you are willing to admit you have been wrong, and you will continue to be wrong as long as you are posting here.


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Translation: As multiple people have pointed out, you STILL cant provide one fact that supports your failed claim that sexual orientation is a choice, not one LMAO thats what i thought! I accept your concession.
If the fact that you lost changes, please let us know and post one fact that supports your claims and makes it true, thanks!

 

[RamFel]

Translation: As multiple people have pointed out, you STILL cant provide one fact that supports your failed claim that sexual orientation is a choice, not one LMAO thats what i thought! I accept your concession.
If the fact that you lost changes, please let us know and post one fact that supports your claims and makes it true, thanks!

i have no idea what you mean. This M.O. you have means nothing to me especially since you continue to put your hands over your ears while saying over and over again, "i can't hear you" I say fine. As long as you're happy doing that, you're not doing anything else such as misrepresenting the real truth, then I say fine

As fas as any claimes of looking for proof. It has been given to you, it has been given to you by a bunch of us and if you are really interested, you can do a search.

 

[AGENT J]

i have no idea what you mean. This M.O. you have means nothing to me especially since you continue to put your hands over your ears while saying over and over again, "i can't hear you" I say fine. As long as you're happy doing that, you're not doing anything else such as misrepresenting the real truth, then I say fine

As fas as any claimes of looking for proof. It has been given to you, it has been given to you by a bunch of us and if you are really interested, you can do a search.

Aaaaand another dodge and ZERO proof or facts that make your failed claim true :lamo
Like I said, when you have ONE single fact that makes your false claim true please let us know, thanks!

 

[RamFel]

Aaaaand another dodge and ZERO proof or facts that make your failed claim true :lamo
Like I said, when you have ONE single fact that makes your false claim true please let us know, thanks!

Aannndd this silly post confirms what I suspected about you. Admission feels good, doesn't it. You ARE covering your ears and yelling out "I can't hear you". I leave you to your efforts against the truth. Good luck.

 

[zyzygy]

Aannndd this silly post confirms what I suspected about you. Admission feels good, doesn't it. You ARE covering your ears and yelling out "I can't hear you". I leave you to your efforts against the truth. Good luck.

We read your posts. They are easy to understand. Now back up your claim with evidence. We have posted evidence and links. When are you going to do that?

 

[AGENT J]

Aannndd this silly post confirms what I suspected about you. Admission feels good, doesn't it. You ARE covering your ears and yelling out "I can't hear you". I leave you to your efforts against the truth. Good luck.

And another dodge LMAO good move,, I accept your concession.
If that fact that you lost changes, please lets us know and post one fact the supports your false claims and makes them true, thanks!

 

[NerosGold]

Ah. So you are of the mindset that if your daughter wears revealing clothing and gets raped, it is 100% her fault that she got raped.

You really have no idea as to how to assign responsibility for behavior.

Oh, and after they turn 18, your kids can do as they choose... and if disowning them is in your lexicon, removing themselves from your life would be a good choice regardless of what they do.

What is your definition of rape? Is it the new age new guard Feminist college definition or the age old definition of rape?

Regardless, don't put words in my mouth.

 

[RamFel]

We read your posts. They are easy to understand. Now back up your claim with evidence. We have posted evidence and links. When are you going to do that?

The evidence is the fact that as a gay person, you cannot procreate with your same sex partner. If she takes the role of the mom in the relationship, she can't make babies. Al she can do is adopt.

I do not have anything scientific.

All this is based on the fact that the normal primary purpose of sex is procreation.

 

[zyzygy]

The evidence is the fact that as a gay person, you cannot procreate with your same sex partner. If she takes the role of the mom in the relationship, she can't make babies. Al she can do is adopt.

I do not have anything scientific.

All this is based on the fact that the normal primary purpose of sex is procreation.

That has nothing to do with your claim about choice.

 

[Dittohead not!]

They live in America... right?

I think so.

What do you think, Jose?

Jose says they live in America, too.

Hey, Ivan, where do they live?

Ivan says they live in America, too.

Jose, Ivan, Maria, and Dhaliwal wonder what your point is, as they all live in America too.

 

[zyzygy]

I think so.

What do you think, Jose?

Jose says they live in America, too.

Hey, Ivan, where do they live?

Ivan says they live in America, too.

Jose, Ivan, Maria, and Dhaliwal wonder what your point is, as they all live in America too.

All American boys should be christened Bill to stop them turning gay. I'm sure that Bill Burroughs would have agreed with that.

 

[RamFel]

That has nothing to do with your claim about choice.

Actually it doesn't so if you mean abortion. I am speaking about being gay. But if you have anything better than that. I willing to listen.

 

[AGENT J]

That has nothing to do with your claim about choice.

LMAO 100% correct
thats why you , me and others are still waiting for one fact to support the failed claim that sexual orientation is a choice. So far not one has been presented.

 

[RamFel]

LMAO 100% correct
thats why you , me and others are still waiting for one fact to support the failed claim that sexual orientation is a choice. So far not one has been presented.

Why are you bothering me? You have shown me unwilling to debate and more interested in running and hiding behind games.

Go away.