Father Kills 14 Year-Old Son: 'He Would Rather Have a Dead Son Than a Gay Son'

[RamFel]

Hey look who is posting lies again, YOU made the claim now YOU have to prove it. But you cant LMAO

so here we are waiting on you LMAO
Please present one fact that makes your claim true, thanks!
J
opcorn2:

Yeah, and.you'll lie, as always, about how natural it is, and how it was meant to be, all without any proof. No way. You must go first. Let everybody ..... Wait! Hold up. You're right. I will go first.

Being gay is a choice because if it were not a choice, it would be a natural event and all gays would all be meant to exist. And I'll bet you cannot prove that.

 

[AGENT J]

1.)Yeah, and.you'll lie, as always, about how natural it is, and how it was meant to be, all without any proof. No way. You must go first. Let everybody ..... Wait! Hold up. You're right. I will go first.
2.)Being gay is a choice because if it were not a choice, it would be a natural event and all gays would all be meant to exist. And I'll bet you cannot prove that.

1.) meaningless ramblings that is just deflection LOL
2.) wow thanks for that OPINION and your FEELINGS on that but we are asking you for FACTS that make your claim TRUE . .

now, we are still waiting, please provided ONE single fact that makes your claim true, thanks!

opcorn2:

 

[RamFel]

1.) meaningless ramblings that is just deflection LOL
2.) wow thanks for that OPINION and your FEELINGS on that but we are asking you for FACTS that make your claim TRUE . .

now, we are still waiting, please provided ONE single fact that makes your claim true, thanks!

opcorn2:

I just did. I said that if being gay were not a choice, then every gay on earth would be "meant to be natural".

You're next.

 

[AGENT J]

I just did. I said that if being gay were not a choice, then every gay on earth would be "meant to be natural".

You're next.

Theres no facts in there that's just your opinion :lamo

So we are still waiting please provided ONE single fact that makes your claim true, thanks!
opcorn2:

 

[RamFel]

Theres no facts in there that's just your opinion :lamo

So we are still waiting please provided ONE single fact that makes your claim true, thanks!
opcorn2:

thats OK. Play it however you want. I have seen you play this game for a long time and so far you are playing it the same way you always do. Stall, delay. Stall, delay. Answer this single question:

How can same sex attraction be natural? What exactly makes it right when it has things that go against it?

 

[AGENT J]

thats OK. Play it however you want. I have seen you play this game for a long time and so far you are playing it the same way you always do. Stall, delay. Stall, delay. Answer this single question:
How can same sex attraction be natural? What exactly makes it right when it has things that go against it?

translation: you STILL cant provided one fact to support your claim so you continue to deflect, I love destroying your lies LMAO

So we are still waiting please provided ONE single fact that makes your claim true, thanks!
opcorn2:

 

[RamFel]

translation: you STILL cant provided one fact to support your claim so you continue to deflect, I love destroying your lies LM
So we are still waiting please provided ONE single fact that makes your claim true, thanks!
opcorn2:

I dare you to destroy away, if you can.

 

[AGENT J]

I dare you to destroy away, if you can.

Already did, happens EVERY TIME you dodge my request and can't provid one single fact that supports your claim and makes it true . . not one! LMAO

What me do it again by simply repeating my request. we are still waiting please provided ONE single fact that makes your claim true, thanks!

opcorn2:

 

[RamFel]

Already did, happens EVERY TIME you dodge my request and can't provid one single fact that supports your claim and makes it true . . not one! LMAO

What me do it again by simply repeating my request. we are still waiting please provided ONE single fact that makes your claim true, thanks!

opcorn2:

So did I. But if lying and mis - translating is your way of convincing yourself what's true and not true, then fine. I can live with the way I see you. You haven't changed a bit.

 

[X Factor]

A more unprovable statement would be very difficult for you to make.

This is anacdotal to be sure, Ramfel, but I have seen for myself a person struggle with accepting her own sexuality and, frankly, being gay is not something she would have chosen for herself, not at that time anyway.

 

[OlNate]

That is the biggest load of stink I have ever read.

It's ok, when you're ready to face your nature there are ways to make the transition. Thankfully there are organizations that are more empathetic than you are, and some that specialize in people your age. You should seek them out, I think you'd feel better. Believe it or not, you attitude is very common amongst men your age that chose to abandon their nature in order to conform to a much less forgiving society. Hopefully you'll do what you need to do to find some peace. I wish you luck.
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[AGENT J]

So did I. But if lying and mis - translating is your way of convincing yourself what's true and not true, then fine. I can live with the way I see you. You haven't changed a bit.

See your posts gets destroyed again! LMAO

This will continue until you cant support your claim or admit its just your opinion. SO when you can do one or the other please let us know and provid ONE single fact that makes your claim true, thanks!

 

[ataraxia]

The choice of your sexual preference is as much up to you as your preference of eating a hot dog over wood chips like a termite. Yes, I guess you could "choose" to eat wood chips. But I bet you couldn't keep it up for too long.

 

[Lovebug]

It is not quite clear from the article why Giovanni had a former foster Mom. Regardless, shooting anyone, esp your own son, for any reason is despicable.
This statement I call bull**** on

"We have a crisis of masculinity in this country—it's obvious across the board in this report and in the unrelenting reports on sexual assault and also gun violence,"

Yeah, keep this tragedy within its bounds, please, and quit stroking your ego or your cause.

 

[NerosGold]

A friend of mine's daughter is 20 and transitioning from female to male, the dad couldn't handle it, divorced the mom and is a jerk. The bonus is that he is a singer and has recorded an album and regularly tours, and you would never realize that he is trans.

I would be like the father in question here. If my son or daughter wanted to flip genders and went about doing such a thing, I would disown him or her. I can handle someone being gay, but not trans. Transitioning? Do you know what this does to the person's mind? You think this person is confused now? Wait until he is born a man but can now have kids and is all "feminine".. I'm 100% against transitioning. 110%

It's not natural, at all.

In the wild, you do have some specimen who screw same gendered specimen. But only HUMANS try to change what we were born with.

Gender is not a social construct, it is a biological one.

 

[Lovebug]

I would be like the father in question here. If my son or daughter wanted to flip genders and went about doing such a thing, I would disown him or her. I can handle someone being gay, but not trans. Transitioning? Do you know what this does to the person's mind? You think this person is confused now? Wait until he is born a man but can now have kids and is all "feminine".. I'm 100% against transitioning. 110%

It's not natural, at all.

In the wild, you do have some specimen who screw same gendered specimen. But only HUMANS try to change what we were born with.

Gender is not a social construct, it is a biological one.

It is a fellow human being, your son. Who are you to judge? Are you perfect by any means? No, none of us are.

 

[NerosGold]

Its not a choice believe that one. I would have loved to have born straight, but I was given no choice.

I was watching a politically tainted comedian stand up act and the guy is like

"Christians are against abortion and homosexuals... but then why are they against the gays? Gays are the LEAST likely to have an abortion." "Who has less abortions than gay people?"

"Christians should be championing gay people. Less abortions for women, more vagina for men!" "What's not to like about that?"

"Gays an entire class of people guaranteed to never have an abortion"

I don't know if being gay is a choice or not. But those lines really opened my eyes and changed how I thought about gays.

 

[NerosGold]

It is a fellow human being, your son. Who are you to judge? Are you perfect by any means? No, none of us are.

And I get that. I'm not saying trans people are any less human than I am or are freaks. Despite not agreeing with their lifestyle, despite believing we need to outlaw it (mutilating themselves via doctor?? Why is this legal? The government is supposed to protect its people, playing into their mental illness isn't protecting anyone) and so on. I believe their currently legal actions should be protected. They should be protected in some capacity as a protected group (like gays and minorities are)

That said, I am not judging anyone. I'm not perfect, but I would still disown my son or daughter for that.

That is the only thing that would make me disown my own kid(s).

That and molesting a kid.

I don't care if you consider yourself to be a colorful unicorn mixed with a pony. Don't expect everyone else to refer to you as a unicorn-pony mix.

Allowing people to transition is ultimately hurting them in the long run. It's not protecting anyone, it hurts people.

I try to see the liberal side of things when I can, but flipping and switching genders is too far.

 

[Lovebug]

And I get that. I'm not saying trans people are any less human than I am or are freaks. Despite not agreeing with their lifestyle, despite believing we need to outlaw it (mutilating themselves via doctor?? Why is this legal? The government is supposed to protect its people, playing into their mental illness isn't protecting anyone) and so on. I believe their currently legal actions should be protected. They should be protected in some capacity as a protected group (like gays and minorities are)

That said, I am not judging anyone. I'm not perfect, but I would still disown my son or daughter for that.

That is the only thing that would make me disown my own kid(s).

That and molesting a kid.

I don't care if you consider yourself to be a colorful unicorn mixed with a pony. Don't expect everyone else to refer to you as a unicorn-pony mix.

Allowing people to transition is ultimately hurting them in the long run. It's not protecting anyone, it hurts people.

I try to see the liberal side of things when I can, but flipping and switching genders is too far.

Ok, I get where you come from. I just want to point out that none of us are perfect, and when we start judging someone on their innermost feelings, I just think it is us who have the problem.

 

[RamFel]

Hey look who is posting lies again, YOU made the claim now YOU have to prove it. But you cant LMAO

so here we are waiting on you LMAO
Please present one fact that makes your claim true, thanks!

opcorn2:

Im still waiting. Why hide the fact that you can't do it? You came from left field and told me I was a liar. You know it's not true. Tell the truth.

 

[AGENT J]

Im still waiting. Why hide the fact that you can't do it? You came from left field and told me I was a liar. You know it's not true. Tell the truth.

LOL more failed deflections and lies
Please present one fact that makes your claim true, thanks!
opcorn2:

 

[beefheart]

I would be like the father in question here. If my son or daughter wanted to flip genders and went about doing such a thing, I would disown him or her. I can handle someone being gay, but not trans. Transitioning? Do you know what this does to the person's mind? You think this person is confused now? Wait until he is born a man but can now have kids and is all "feminine".. I'm 100% against transitioning. 110%

It's not natural, at all.

In the wild, you do have some specimen who screw same gendered specimen. But only HUMANS try to change what we were born with.

Gender is not a social construct, it is a biological one.

You have no concept of love then.

If you disowned your child because they are what they are, then you are a terrible person. Being gay or trans does not affect anyone else, nor is it an indictment on you.

 

[NerosGold]

You have no concept of love then.

If you disowned your child because they are what they are, then you are a terrible person.

Eh. Maybe so. But that's how it is. Love isn't unconditional. That's the great myth that most have been duped into.

Would you love your kid if he flew planes into the Twin Towers, leading to 2,000+ beautiful souls who should not have perished, to perish?

Would you love your kid if he was the guy behind Daisy's Destruction?

I'm sorry, there are lines and boundaries respectable human beings should not cross.

You were born XYZ and that's how it is.

Any attempts at trying to change his or her's natural gender will hurt me more than it's going to hurt my kid, but still, that is the ONLY way I can keep my kid's from doing something they would otherwise regret for the rest of their lives.

What if the father of an alcoholic told his daughter, that if she drunk and drove and killed someone; he would never speak to her again. Perhaps that daughter would not drink and drive, and perhaps the life or lives of innocent people COULD be averted.

I believe trans people have a choice, certainly. Gays don't, being gay is somewhat natural. Name ONE other species of mammal/animal that tries to change genders.

Trans aren't born that way, it's a social thing. They see others doing it, so they do too. It's all an attention seeking ploy...

My point is, trans people have a CHOICE. A CHOICE to transition. Gays may at some level feel like a woman as well, but at least they don't mutilate themselves and go against everything good Nature intended. They're still DUDES.

Why wouldn't you disown someone? If there is literally nothing that could make you disown a kid, that's just insanity. It's not rational nor logical. Love has limits. Don't be a monster (not saying trans people are mind you) and you'll always get daddy and mommy's love.

This is just one other way we as a society can keep atrocities from occurring. Threaten to pull love from ONE person, I may not like it, but it would be for the greater good of society as a whole.

 

[RamFel]

LOL more failed deflections and lies
Please present one fact that makes your claim true, thanks!
opcorn2:

I already did but as usual, ou do nothing but waste time. Be as useless as you want.

 

[Borkazork]

Eh. Maybe so. But that's how it is. Love isn't unconditional. That's the great myth that most have been duped into.

Would you love your kid if he flew planes into the Twin Towers, leading to 2,000+ beautiful souls who should not have perished, to perish?

Would you love your kid if he was the guy behind Daisy's Destruction?

I'm sorry, there are lines and boundaries respectable human beings should not cross.

You were born XYZ and that's how it is.

Any attempts at trying to change his or her's natural gender will hurt me more than it's going to hurt my kid, but still, that is the ONLY way I can keep my kid's from doing something they would otherwise regret for the rest of their lives.

What if the father of an alcoholic told his daughter, that if she drunk and drove and killed someone; he would never speak to her again. Perhaps that daughter would not drink and drive, and perhaps the life or lives of innocent people COULD be averted.

I believe trans people have a choice, certainly. Gays don't, being gay is somewhat natural. Name ONE other species of mammal/animal that tries to change genders.

Trans aren't born that way, it's a social thing. They see others doing it, so they do too. It's all an attention seeking ploy...

My point is, trans people have a CHOICE. A CHOICE to transition. Gays may at some level feel like a woman as well, but at least they don't mutilate themselves and go against everything good Nature intended. They're still DUDES.

Why wouldn't you disown someone? If there is literally nothing that could make you disown a kid, that's just insanity. It's not rational nor logical. Love has limits. Don't be a monster (not saying trans people are mind you) and you'll always get daddy and mommy's love.

This is just one other way we as a society can keep atrocities from occurring. Threaten to pull love from ONE person, I may not like it, but it would be for the greater good of society as a whole.

Withholding love has literally never once improved a situation.

You're a sociopath.