Family and hate of LGBT

[Zyphlin]

Moderator's Warning:

Folks, please ignore the trolling and attempted threadjack and stick to the topic...of which Republicans, Trump, or the vote in November are not part of

 

[MrMike]

Why? He's very clearly and very obviously a hypocrite. Is he some kind of snowflake that can't handle having that legitimately pointed out. Why do conservatives suddenly want me to respect their safe space? I thought those were bad? I thought we were supposed to tell it like it is even if it's offensive and demand that people like Renae stop being so sensitive?

You don't get to have it both ways.

Sometimes, you just have to be human enough to set aside the political cards and just be a decent person to someone else. Some folks can do that, and sadly, some just can't. It's obvious where you fall in that equation.

Good luck.

 

[Renae]

I didn't even consider a political side of the equation in my response. Being a decent human should always come first.

I was just being "sensitive" for giggles.

 

[MrMike]

I was just being "sensitive" for giggles.

After reading your op, I just hadn't considered your politics in my response. It isn't everything (to me) but for others, politics seems to be their primary mechanism for judgement and expression on nearly every topic.

Sometimes, it (partisanship) just seems to be a mental illness of which I am sometimes affected. Every now and then, I like to take some time off from it.

 

[vegas giants]

After reading your op, I just hadn't considered your politics in my response. It isn't everything (to me) but for others, politics seems to be their primary mechanism for judgement and expression on nearly every topic.

Sometimes, it (partisanship) just seems to be a mental illness of which I am sometimes affected. Every now and then, I like to take some time off from it.

I have to agree with this. Politics should play no part in this thread. Compassion should

 

[Renae]

I have to agree with this. Politics should play no part in this thread. Compassion should

I needed to vent, and this is the best place to vent and also, either other who maybe LGBT or know a friend or family member that might be this could help in understanding the BS that can go with being your true self.

 

[HowardBThiname]

She. But thank you!

"She."

I stand corrected. (((hugs)))

 

[TheParser]

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So the other night my old man called while I was streaming Overwatch, and of course Renae plays overwatch, I didn't see who called I just answered. He thought it was my wife. When I made it clear it was me, he got super ****ing mad "Don't ****ing talk to me in your girly voice ever again".

I realized a truth at that moment, as hard as it is, that I have to walk away from family now. I can't wait for them to get over it. I'm done. It hurts like hell. But that sort of hate and bigotry I refuse to subject myself too.

My Aunt and Uncle I lived with as a teen cause they were over seas and told not to bring their teenage son? Physically and mentally abused me. I blew the whistle and escape that, but no one called the cops. My Uncle today is a respected member of the family. My other uncle, the one that abused my son sexually? Bastards in hell now, lung cancer, but the WHOLE family was there honoring him and think my son is a liar. I recently met with one of his other victims, his own son.

But being Trans? Black sheep.

**** family.

I join other members in wishing you the best of luck.

Those ignorant (and hypocritical) family members do NOT deserve your respect and friendship.

Most human beings, in my opinion, are pretty awful creatures in any case.

The fact that so many of them are obsessed with the sexuality of OTHERS speaks volumes about their own personal demons.

 

[RAMOSS]

So the other night my old man called while I was streaming Overwatch, and of course Renae plays overwatch, I didn't see who called I just answered. He thought it was my wife. When I made it clear it was me, he got super ****ing mad "Don't ****ing talk to me in your girly voice ever again".

I realized a truth at that moment, as hard as it is, that I have to walk away from family now. I can't wait for them to get over it. I'm done. It hurts like hell. But that sort of hate and bigotry I refuse to subject myself too.

My Aunt and Uncle I lived with as a teen cause they were over seas and told not to bring their teenage son? Physically and mentally abused me. I blew the whistle and escape that, but no one called the cops. My Uncle today is a respected member of the family. My other uncle, the one that abused my son sexually? Bastards in hell now, lung cancer, but the WHOLE family was there honoring him and think my son is a liar. I recently met with one of his other victims, his own son.

But being Trans? Black sheep.

**** family.

You have my sympathy about have family like that. I know people who went through similar things, without the complication of lgbtq. Sometimes, it's better to get rid of toxic people from your life.

 

[RAMOSS]

Re: You puddle of ****

Your numbers are way off, Trumps support among the black population has doubled.

You saw a tragic post like OP's where someone is hurting, you chose to attack this person politically for not being in your party of choice. You are a truly disgusting bigot for that; I'm talking Ana Kasparian "If you vote Trump/GOP... I'm just better than you" levels of bigotry.

Just because those hate groups prefer the GOP doesn't make the GOP any more racist, no more than the DNC are violent anarchists because the violent anarchists vote for them.

I could explain to you why national sovereignty, secure borders and opposition to illegal immigration can be supported by racists and non-racists for different reasons, but I doubt you'd get it or are worth the effort. Heck I see more overt racism (against white people, or POC's who don't vote Dem) and sexism (against men) coming from the left these days. SJW's made Ruby Rose quit Twitter after being called "Not Lesbian Enough" or "Too pretty & white" by her LGBT community. The left is not tolerant at all, especially not to ideas.

I'm done with your hijacking of the thread you bigot, you are not superior to half the country.

Well, that is misleading at the very least. The margin of error in the poll is greater than the amount of support that was made.

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-...-trumps-misleading-claim-kanye-wests-praise-/

 

[Moon]

So the other night my old man called while I was streaming Overwatch, and of course Renae plays overwatch, I didn't see who called I just answered. He thought it was my wife. When I made it clear it was me, he got super ****ing mad "Don't ****ing talk to me in your girly voice ever again".

I realized a truth at that moment, as hard as it is, that I have to walk away from family now. I can't wait for them to get over it. I'm done. It hurts like hell. But that sort of hate and bigotry I refuse to subject myself too.

My Aunt and Uncle I lived with as a teen cause they were over seas and told not to bring their teenage son? Physically and mentally abused me. I blew the whistle and escape that, but no one called the cops. My Uncle today is a respected member of the family. My other uncle, the one that abused my son sexually? Bastards in hell now, lung cancer, but the WHOLE family was there honoring him and think my son is a liar. I recently met with one of his other victims, his own son.

But being Trans? Black sheep.

**** family.

Sorry to hear all that Renae. Sometimes families are the best and sometimes they're not. Stay strong.

 

[AlbqOwl]

So the other night my old man called while I was streaming Overwatch, and of course Renae plays overwatch, I didn't see who called I just answered. He thought it was my wife. When I made it clear it was me, he got super ****ing mad "Don't ****ing talk to me in your girly voice ever again".

I realized a truth at that moment, as hard as it is, that I have to walk away from family now. I can't wait for them to get over it. I'm done. It hurts like hell. But that sort of hate and bigotry I refuse to subject myself too.

My Aunt and Uncle I lived with as a teen cause they were over seas and told not to bring their teenage son? Physically and mentally abused me. I blew the whistle and escape that, but no one called the cops. My Uncle today is a respected member of the family. My other uncle, the one that abused my son sexually? Bastards in hell now, lung cancer, but the WHOLE family was there honoring him and think my son is a liar. I recently met with one of his other victims, his own son.

But being Trans? Black sheep.

**** family.

I hear that. I grew up as the child of an alcoholic mother who loved me but was incapable of stopping my father who abused me physically and emotionally to the point of wearing long sleeves on hot days to cover the bruises and dealing with one broken bone. Both are gone now and while I cannot muster up any affectionate feelings for my father--they simply are not there--I can forgive my mother who did the best she could I suppose with the cross she bore. And I can forgive other relatives for the sexism, racism, homophobia etc. because they too were who they are and were doing the best they could with that I suppose.

But it was only through forgiveness of them that I was able to get past the worst of the damage done to me and be able to be who I am and do the best I can with that I suppose.

So be careful in rejecting your family because you cannot accept their sin. You certainly don't have to agree with it or even condone it. But it is not given to us to dictate to another who he/she must be in order to be acceptable. And when we try we don't hurt them nearly as much as we hurt ourselves. If being around them wounds your spirit, then by all means limit your contacts. But don't write them off either. You are a product of them, just a better version in some aspects.

 

[CLAX1911]

So the other night my old man called while I was streaming Overwatch, and of course Renae plays overwatch, I didn't see who called I just answered. He thought it was my wife. When I made it clear it was me, he got super ****ing mad "Don't ****ing talk to me in your girly voice ever again".

I realized a truth at that moment, as hard as it is, that I have to walk away from family now. I can't wait for them to get over it. I'm done. It hurts like hell. But that sort of hate and bigotry I refuse to subject myself too.

My Aunt and Uncle I lived with as a teen cause they were over seas and told not to bring their teenage son? Physically and mentally abused me. I blew the whistle and escape that, but no one called the cops. My Uncle today is a respected member of the family. My other uncle, the one that abused my son sexually? Bastards in hell now, lung cancer, but the WHOLE family was there honoring him and think my son is a liar. I recently met with one of his other victims, his own son.

But being Trans? Black sheep.

**** family.

I would be more upset about them thinking my son was a liar.

 

[Renae]

I would be more upset about them thinking my son was a liar.

Clax, the day of reckoning on that is coming. It's strained things really bad. The fact I know now my son was not alone in being a victim, oh... I'm waiting for the proper moment.

 

[CLAX1911]

Clax, the day of reckoning on that is coming. It's strained things really bad. The fact I know now my son was not alone in being a victim, oh... I'm waiting for the proper moment.

Press charges. Statue of limitations is 20 years after the victim turns 18.

You are a better person than me... if want blood.

 

[Lord Tammerlain]

Press charges. Statue of limitations is 20 years after the victim turns 18.

You are a better person than me... if want blood.

My other uncle, the one that abused my son sexually? Bastards in hell now, lung cancer, but the WHOLE family was there honoring him and think my son is a liar. I recently met with one of his other victims, his own son.

The guy I believe is dead

 

[CLAX1911]

The guy I believe is dead

but he wasn't at the time of transgression.

 

[Lord Tammerlain]

but he wasn't at the time of transgression.

I know I was more referring about pressing charges (I understood it to mean now)

I understand your viewpoint as I share it (want blood)

 

[CLAX1911]

I know I was more referring about pressing charges (I understood it to mean now)

I understand your viewpoint as I share it (want blood)

I dont know if I could control myself. One of the reasons I decided not to go into law enforcement

 

[Bum]

So the other night my old man called while I was streaming Overwatch, and of course Renae plays overwatch, I didn't see who called I just answered. He thought it was my wife. When I made it clear it was me, he got super ****ing mad "Don't ****ing talk to me in your girly voice ever again".

I realized a truth at that moment, as hard as it is, that I have to walk away from family now. I can't wait for them to get over it. I'm done. It hurts like hell. But that sort of hate and bigotry I refuse to subject myself too.

My Aunt and Uncle I lived with as a teen cause they were over seas and told not to bring their teenage son? Physically and mentally abused me. I blew the whistle and escape that, but no one called the cops. My Uncle today is a respected member of the family. My other uncle, the one that abused my son sexually? Bastards in hell now, lung cancer, but the WHOLE family was there honoring him and think my son is a liar. I recently met with one of his other victims, his own son.

But being Trans? Black sheep.

**** family.

That is just harsh and bigoted; My wife and I both come from large "blended" families....if there is one thing I understand, its that blood does not define family, how they stand at your side and support you when you need it does.

 

[Renae]

That is just harsh and bigoted; My wife and I both come from large "blended" families....if there is one thing I understand, its that blood does not define family, how they stand at your side and support you when you need it does.

Truth.

 

[SMTA]

So the other night my old man called while I was streaming Overwatch, and of course Renae plays overwatch, I didn't see who called I just answered. He thought it was my wife. When I made it clear it was me, he got super ****ing mad "Don't ****ing talk to me in your girly voice ever again".

I realized a truth at that moment, as hard as it is, that I have to walk away from family now. I can't wait for them to get over it. I'm done. It hurts like hell. But that sort of hate and bigotry I refuse to subject myself too.

My Aunt and Uncle I lived with as a teen cause they were over seas and told not to bring their teenage son? Physically and mentally abused me. I blew the whistle and escape that, but no one called the cops. My Uncle today is a respected member of the family. My other uncle, the one that abused my son sexually? Bastards in hell now, lung cancer, but the WHOLE family was there honoring him and think my son is a liar. I recently met with one of his other victims, his own son.

But being Trans? Black sheep.

**** family.

One reaps what one sows.

 

[Renae]

One reaps what one sows.

Then you must lead a very negative life.

 

[SMTA]

Then you must lead a very negative life.

I don't have the family problems that you do.
Look inside for the real issue.

 

[maxparrish]

The last two weeks of Mom's life, she could only blink out of one eye. Was generally on Morphine. Dad would get up, see us kids off to school then he'd head to work and strap an F-4 on his back 2-3 times during the day. Get home, have dinner and then head over to the hospital to tell her about our day. He watched the love of his life die horribly, slowly in front of him. That broke him. EVERYONE says the man they knew died with her. I believe it.

Not to make it about me, but it did some of that to me when my wife died. I've never experienced such emotional pain, or for so long, as when my wife died. It took a year and half to start functioning again and years more of dealing with grief and regret. Even as I write, I miss her terribly - and she died 15 years ago.

The only attachment more powerful than pair bonding is that of parent to child. And it is likely the only grief that is more intense.