Faculty Support of George Mason’s President Draws Federal Investigation

[Grizzly Adams]

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So, you cannot "quote the part of the OP that supports your claim the faculty 'insists that racially discriminatory actions re retained'."

I already did. If you can't figure it out from there, that's a "you" problem.

 

[Pyrite]

Faculty's insistence that racially discriminatory actions be retained makes it reasonable to suspect the college is discriminating on the basis of race.

Sorry this upsets you.

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Quote the part of the OP that supports your claim that the faculty "insists that racially discriminatory actions be retained".

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The part where the faculty signed on to a letter expressing support for racially discriminatory programs.

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You've not quoted that part of the OP in which the faculty "insists that racially discriminatory actions be retained".

 

[Grizzly Adams]

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You've not quoted that part of the OP in which the faculty "insists that racially discriminatory actions be retained".

Look, I already explained this to you.

 

[Pyrite]

Look, I already explained this to you.

You may have done what you call "explaining", but you have failed to do what I requested:

Copying and pasting ("quoting") the part of the OP that corroborates your claim the "faculty insists that racially discriminatory actions be retained."

 

[bythoughts]

The thing that's sad about this is that faculty governance at a college is like the student government at your old high school. It's basically make believe. I mean yeah, the bosses might listen if you say something they happen to like, but whenever it really matters, it's irrelevant. That's basically the faculty defense at GMU - they're being accused of abusing power they never had. Of course, it is also possible (since the text they're accused of is only being heard of third hand) that they never called for discrimination, but only for outreach that covers the full population of their state.

 

[Stealers Wheel]

Throughout modern history, whenever an authoritarian regime takes power, they always silence dissent, attack academics, intellectuals, poets, scientists, make the free press go underground, and intimidate free thinkers of all stripes. This nothing new.

 

[mrjurrs]

So potential discrimination is only worthy of investigation if it benefits whites?

It's a silly analogy.

 

[upsideguy]

If a large group of instructors at a university were calling for a "whiter" campus, would you be similarly critical of a DOJ investigation into their practices to look for discrimination?

I doubt it.

Not even remotely the same thing. Then again, most Trump supporters do not have a clue what DEI actually is.... It just offends their need to freely exercise their bigotry and hate.

 

[jmotivator]

Apparently just talking about it calls for a federal investigation.

We've deployed soldiers to stop racial discrimination before. Imagine this story but the faculty were supporting discrimination against non-whites... do you still feel the same way?

 

[Risky Thicket]

Demanding racial quotas and discrimination is "academic freedom" now.

Wonder what the reaction would be if they all signed a resolution demanding the "wrong" kind of discrimination.

Demanding racial quotas?

 

[Risky Thicket]

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So, you cannot "quote the part of the OP that supports your claim the faculty 'insists that racially discriminatory actions re retained'."

No surprise.

Grizzly Adam’s cannot defend what he does not understand. Willful ignorance is debilitating.

 

[Risky Thicket]

Throughout modern history, whenever an authoritarian regime takes power, they always silence dissent, attack academics, intellectuals, poets, scientists, make the free press go underground, and intimidate free thinkers of all stripes. This nothing new.

Bingo!

 

[Risky Thicket]

We've deployed soldiers to stop racial discrimination before. Imagine this story but the faculty were supporting discrimination against non-whites... do you still feel the same way?

“Imagine” is not reality and is therefore irrelevant.

 

[Risky Thicket]

 

[jmotivator]

“Imagine” is not reality and is therefore irrelevant.

Just a quick note that, in your rush to defend a stupid narrative, you are declaring that discrimination against non-whites isn't real...

 

[Risky Thicket]

Just a quick note that, in your rush to defend a stupid narrative, you are declaring that discrimination against non-whites isn't real...

Discrimination is wrong. DEIA is a positive way to address discrimination.

 

[jmotivator]

Discrimination is wrong. DEIA is a positive way to address discrimination.

DEI is literally racial and sexual discrimination. How can the thing that you claim is wrong also be "positive"?

 

[eohrnberger]

"When the Department of Justice recently opened an investigation into George Mason University over accusations that the university’s diversity programs were discriminatory, many members of the faculty were outraged. Professors quickly published a resolution supporting their president and the university’s efforts around diversity. Now, Justice Department officials say they will investigate the faculty, too. In a letter sent on Friday, the Trump administration said it would seek drafts of the faculty resolution, all written communications among the Faculty Senate members who drafted the resolution, and all communications between those faculty members and the office of the university’s president, Gregory Washington.

Free speech advocates quickly denounced the move as an attack on academic freedom. The faculty resolution affirmed the university’s previous stance that “diversity is our strength.” It also defended Dr. Washington, the university’s first Black president, who has been a target of the Trump administration. Faculty senate resolutions are positions taken by a university’s elected faculty body, like the one at George Mason. They typically carry no force and normally attract little notice beyond the campus newspaper. But these are not normal times for higher education.

Harmeet Dhillon, who heads the Justice Department’s civil rights division, wrote a letter on Friday to Charles Stimson, the rector of the Board of Visitors, saying the agency would be looking into the faculty’s resolution. She said that the resolution commended Dr. Washington’s efforts “to ensure ‘faculty and staff demographics . . . mirror student demographics’ at GMU.” ...“This statement is concerning,” she added, “as it indicates the GMU Faculty Senate is praising President Washington for engaging in race- or sex-motivated hiring decisions to achieve specific demographic outcomes among faculty and staff.”"

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Express support for a policy the government doesn't like and lose your job.

Someone was fired already? Nope. Post fail #1.

Is a specific person being investigated? No indication of that in "investigation into George Mason University." Post fail #2.

Your own citation stated "an investigation into George Mason University over accusations that the university’s diversity programs were discriminatory".
So you don't want possibly discriminatory programs to be investigated? Over all fail.

Me thinks you are pushing your demanded narrative far too hard, and far beyond what the facts of your own citation supports.

 

[CaughtInThe]

Fascism

 

[j brown's body]

Someone was fired already? Nope. Post fail #1.

Is a specific person being investigated? No indication of that in "investigation into George Mason University." Post fail #2.

Your own citation stated "an investigation into George Mason University over accusations that the university’s diversity programs were discriminatory".
So you don't want possibly discriminatory programs to be investigated? Over all fail.

Me thinks you are pushing your demanded narrative far too hard, and far beyond what the facts of your own citation supports.

You aren't aware that accusations of discrimination are a ruse to force colleges to conform to Trump's belief (a goal the administration itself has claimed)?

You may have noticed there are no hearings to determine if the accusation is true.

Meanwhile: "Now, Justice Department officials say they will investigate the faculty, too."

 

[eohrnberger]

You aren't aware that accusations of discrimination are a ruse to force colleges to conform to Trump's belief (a goal the administration itself has claimed)?

DEI and diversity programs are discrimination by their own definition, advantaging some at the disadvantaging of others based on immutable characteristics.

You may have noticed there are no hearings to determine if the accusation is true.

You may have noticed that there's an investigation open to determine if those accusations are true. If it comes to it, there'll be hearings.

Meanwhile: "Now, Justice Department officials say they will investigate the faculty, too."

That's a great big 'so what?'

 

[jmotivator]

Fascism

If the faculty in question were signing a document in favor of racial and sexual discrimination against non-whites and women would it be fascist to investigate them?

 

[CaughtInThe]

If the faculty in question were signing a document in favor of racial and sexual discrimination against non-whites and women would it be fascist to investigate them?

They're being investigated because when people cross our head POLITICIAN (Trump) he uses the weight of the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT to crush them.

 

[jmotivator]

They're being investigated because when people cross our head POLITICIAN (Trump) he uses the weight of the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT to crush them.

Nice dodge of the question. You and I both know that if the letter in question was defending hiring whites and men over non-whites and women you wouldn't have a problem with federal investigation.

Discrimination based on immutable characteristics like sex and skin color is wrong regardless of the characteristics being selected against. People in a position of authority favoring the denial of civil rights to people based on race or sex are advocating for illegality and should be investigated.

 

[CaughtInThe]

Nice dodge of the question. You and I both know that if the letter in question was defending hiring whites and men over non-whites and women you wouldn't have a problem with federal investigation.

Discrimination based on immutable characteristics like sex and skin color is wrong regardless of the characteristics being selected against. People in a position of authority favoring the denial of civil rights to people based on race or sex are advocating for illegality and should be investigated.

It's not a dodge at all.

When someone crosses Trump he simply tries to crush them. He use to do it with his papa's money now he's doing it with the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

Which, interestingly, small government Republicans use to hate.