Ex-Fox News executive Bill Shine out at the White House

[<alt>doxygen]

When you're at the extreme right as American conservatives appear to be, out where there be fascism, everything looks "librul".

In Canada it was the Conservatives who legalized gay marriage. That really highlights just how far to the right the USA has moved.

The Overton window is broken.

 

[<alt>doxygen]

What about SHS? She's fundamental Christian, and they lie better than anyone imo.

Don't know about this one, is this stuff true?:

Is that doof in the white suit and toupee Ernest Angely???

 

[Skeptic Bob]

There has been a myriad of firings and resignations that make Trump's promise of hiring the best people a hilarious joke. But I don't think this one counts as one of them since he will still be working for the campaign.

 

[justabubba]

There has been a myriad of firings and resignations that make Trump's promise of hiring the best people a hilarious joke. But I don't think this one counts as one of them since he will still be working for the campaign.

isn't that the purgatory to which all ex-white house officials depart

 

[Skeptic Bob]

isn't that the purgatory to which all ex-white house officials depart

Historically, yeah, but that doesn't appear to be the norm with people fired or resigned in the Trump White House, though.

 

[Chomsky]

I know the address. It was just a brain fart....

For jogging memories, there's always this:

 

[Carleen]

Bill Shine is the latest in a long line of people who have either quit or been fired in this position. I cannot help but think that Mr. Trump has something to hide that is damaging to him, his office, and the American people.

I wonder if he will be replaced. It seems Trump keeps making those around him a smaller and smaller group. I guess meeting with Huckabee Sanders for press briefs is out too. Hasn’t been one for quite awhile. What will she do now?

 

[Chomsky]

The cons will mostly say that's because all of the other media has always been "librul" (Clinton News Network, etc.) but this is another animal. Rather disconcerting, to say the least.

No one in the government or media is without a political opinion. It's when that opinion drives behavior that it becomes a problem. Fox is a conservative network - it was designed for the people who consume WWE/NASCAR/NFL. That's fine. A revolving door and collusion between any WH and a biased-by-design media corporation is not.

Trump is either to depraved or too stupid to care. Ordering the DOJ to deep six a merger because it would be bad for Rupie and good for CNN is inexcusable. Trump is a friendless, amoral rat that lashes out at anyone who doesn't suck up to him, and who will (when it will further benefit him) break norms and rules to benefit the suck-ups.

Yeah but Fox, like the GOP, are moving away from conservatism and becoming (Trumpian) authoritarian.

Now granted, Fox programing varies by the time slot; I find Bret Baeir and Shep Smith pretty good, for example. But I base my opinion above on Fox' opinion programing, which seems to be the network's heart & soul.

 

[Chomsky]

I wonder if he will be replaced. It seems Trump keeps making those around him a smaller and smaller group. I guess meeting with Huckabee Sanders for press briefs is out too. Hasn’t been one for quite awhile. What will she do now?

He seems to be using her as a reserve gun that he sends out as necessary.

 

[Carleen]

He seems to be using her as a reserve gun that he sends out as necessary.

I agree. And right now he needs to keep her under wraps.

 

[Chomsky]

Shine was the idiot behind the failed messages during the midterms and shutdown? Like those skeery caravans and all that? He'll be perfect on Trump's campaign team. He knows how to pander to the idiots in Trump's base.

Yeah, I think the "Caravans" PR roll-out was indeed very effective with his base. But he fell flat on the shutdown. Of course in reality, there's not much of a way to sell a shutdown accept to the most hard-core anti-government types.

 

[Risky Thicket]

.... sometimes he hires competent people ... and then when they can't make gold out of Trump's incessant volcano of feces somehow that's their fault, so they're shuffled off "to work on his campaign".

Sometimes he hires competent people ...but most of the competent ones have been forced to leave their jobs at Trump resort locations before ICE finds them.

 

[Amelia]

Sometimes he hires competent people ...but most of the competent ones have been forced to leave their jobs at Trump resort locations before ICE finds them.

 

[Risky Thicket]

Fox/Trump Network could never hope to host presidential debates with someone like ex-Foxer Shine as Deputy Cheif of Staff for White House Communications still working at the White House. It's bad enough that Hannity plays a major role in Trump's policy making. Having one more Fox person connected to the WH, and in a high level position pretty much shoots Fox's credibility in the ass. Not that Fox had credibility.

I'm not saying Shine was tossed over the side because he is a low life sleezebag, although he is. When you think about it, the fact that Shine is a scum bucket is probably a plus from Trump's perspective. With 2020 around the corner, however, and Trump's growing chance at facing prison if he isn't re-elected, Trump is suddenly the most motivated man in America who only works 5 hours a day.

Shine's WH gig would have been a drag on Trump's re-election bid. I'm not saying that was the impetus for Trump to get rid of Shine. I am saying that in light of Shine's connect to Fox, looking ahead at 2020 Trump would have less of a reason to keep him.

 

[Amelia]

Trump is going through communications directors like Kleenex because for some incomprehensible reason none of them can make him look good.

Go figure.

 

[trixare4kids]

Not sure why but they are really at a fever pitch today..... Squealing loud and long!
You would think they would check a few other sources before going on a stupid tangent
but it happens every day here at DP? That is what extreme hate trump will do to you.

Have they ever? Agree, they're so full of Trump rage they forget to find out the damn truth before engaging fingers on their keyboards.
I think some are still smoking mad that Manafort didn't get 40 years...

 

[Saladin4]

Have they ever? Agree, they're so full of Trump rage they forget to find out the damn truth before engaging fingers on their keyboards.
I think some are still smoking mad that Manafort didn't get 40 years...

Manafort faces a real judge next week.....He'll get what is coming to him

 

[azgreg]

Shine was the idiot behind the failed messages during the midterms and shutdown? Like those skeery caravans and all that? He'll be perfect on Trump's campaign team. He knows how to pander to the idiots in Trump's base.

Looks like the luster wore off of Shine.




Did you see what I did there?




Did you see it?




Did you?












:mrgreen:

 

[tres borrachos]

Looks like the luster wore off of Shine.




Did you see what I did there?




Did you see it?




Did you?












:mrgreen:

What you did there. I see it!!

 

[Buzz62]

Looks like the luster wore off of Shine.




Did you see what I did there?




Did you see it?




Did you?












:mrgreen:

Soooo...Bill Shine agrees to work on the Trump campaign and CNN cums in their collective pants over the ability to spin this to say Shine was fired.
I'm beginning to really feel sorry for the Libbies. Cortez...Ohmar...Pochahontas…
Hell it looks similar to when the Republicans put Bob Dole up as a lamb to slaughter against Slick Willy.

So Libbies...go wash your pants...nothing to see here...:roll:

 

[Airyaman]

Soooo...Bill Shine agrees to work on the Trump campaign and CNN cums in their collective pants over the ability to spin this to say Shine was fired.
I'm beginning to really feel sorry for the Libbies. Cortez...Ohmar...Pochahontas…
Hell it looks similar to when the Republicans put Bob Dole up as a lamb to slaughter against Slick Willy.

So Libbies...go wash your pants...nothing to see here...:roll:

Can you point out where CNN tried to do the bolded? The article says he resigned.

 

[Buzz62]

Can you point out where CNN tried to do the bolded? The article says he resigned.

It also says...

Trump had been down on Shine for at least a few months, believing him ineffective and not what he'd hoped for when he hired him, according to people familiar. Shine's role basically became the person who adjusted the lighting and focused the cameras, and he showed no ability to shape a narrative or communications strategy.

 

[Airyaman]

It also says...

And? They still never said he was fired. Or spun it that way.

 

[Buzz62]

And? They still never said he was fired. Or spun it that way.

Typical CNN "cum in pants" supposition in Red
Verifiable fact in Black.

Trump had been down on Shine for at least a few months, believing him ineffective and not what he'd hoped for when he hired him, according to people familiar. Shine's role basically became the person who adjusted the lighting and focused the cameras, and he showed no ability to shape a narrative or communications strategy.
Shine was a key force behind shutting down much of the press access to the White House, including the daily press briefing, per the source. There has not been a White House press briefing since January 28.
Some officials who once said they couldn't think of a better communications director for Trump than a former television executive had been disappointed by his approach. Months into his tenure, Shine's contribution had largely consisted of phoning Fox News hosts and booking officials on the shows so they can defend the President on a network whose audience largely already favors him -- something that had caused some unease inside and outside the West Wing.
"I think Bill Shine is having fun being the President's buddy at work every day," said a Shine ally when asked about his responsibility earlier this year.
Shine was well liked inside the West Wing because he is seen as someone who is decisive in a sea of indecision, three officials said. But Trump, who often has unrealistic expectations of what his staff can accomplish, had complained about Shine privately at times, noting he hadn't received better coverage since he hired him.
"Trump was very disappointed in him. There's been no improvement in press coverage," the source close to the White House said Friday after the resignation was announced. "Donald would have taken all of those hiccups if he had been getting good press," the source added.

Trump praised Shine in a statement Friday for an "outstanding job," saying he looked forward to working with him on the campaign, where he expects him to be "totally involved."
Trump campaign manager Brad Parscale touted his "wealth of experience from cable news and the White House" in a statement.

 

[Airyaman]

Typical CNN "cum in pants" supposition in Red
Verifiable fact in Black.

I'm not sure what you're trying to say here other than to cover up for your own mistake. There's no shame in admitting an error but I realize most people (particularly on Internet forums) don't like to do it. Best to just not reply and move on than try to cover up the mistake.