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Everyone Likes Reading. Why Are We So Afraid of It?

Loulit01

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Book bans, chatbots, pedagogical warfare: What it means to read has become a minefield.

But maybe the real problem is that children aren’t being taught to read at all. As test scores have slumped — a trend exacerbated by the disruptions of Covid — a long-smoldering conflict over teaching methods has flared anew. Parents, teachers and administrators have rebelled against widely used progressive approaches and demanded more emphasis on phonics. In May, David Banks, the chancellor of New York City’s public schools, for many years a stronghold of “whole language” instruction, announced a sharp pivot toward phonics, a major victory for the “science of reading” movement and a blow to devotees of entrenched “balanced literacy” methods.

The reading crisis reverberates at the higher reaches of the educational system too. As corporate management models and zealous state legislatures refashion the academy into a gated outpost of the gig economy, the humanities have lost their luster for undergraduates. According to reports in The New Yorker and elsewhere, fewer and fewer students are majoring in English, and many of those who do (along with their teachers) have turned away from canonical works of literature toward contemporary writing and pop culture. Is anyone reading “Paradise Lost” anymore? Are you?

This bothers me everyday. I Think about declining reading scores everyday.

Our species needs, and deserves, a citizenry with minds wide awake and a basic understanding of how the world works.
Carl Sagan

"To give to every citizen the information he needs...to understand his duties to his neighbors and country...to know his rights..."

- Thomas Jefferson, 1818

 
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dont need no readin wen i can jus turn on dem thar Fox and lurn all i needs to kno.

Ok ok, snide remark apart, want to know why people, particularly kids don't read? Simple: internet, smart phones, electronic games. When was the last time you saw a kid READING outside of school?
 
High literature and the humanities have always been only for a small, elite portion of the population anyway. For the rest of the population, it has just been pearls before swine.
 
High literature and the humanities have always been only for a small, elite portion of the population anyway. For the rest of the population, it has just been pearls before swine.
Au contraire. See my comment #2. Used to be kids cold read the Narnia series. Now they watch Narnia movies and skip the books. Hell, even Charles Dickens used to write stories for kids, but now most kids would say "What in the Dickens is he talking about?"
 
The problem is reading isn't modeled anymore. Parents are on phones or computers, and kids aren't seeing them sit down and enjoy books, newspapers or magazines. Without positive modeling, reading becomes a chore, not something to be enjoyed.
 
dont need no readin wen i can jus turn on dem thar Fox and lurn all i needs to kno.

Ok ok, snide remark apart, want to know why people, particularly kids don't read? Simple: internet, smart phones, electronic games. When was the last time you saw a kid READING outside of school?
My tiny granddaughters read. Well, one reads very well for her age and the other likes to pretend she's reading like her sister while looking at the pictures. But they have books in their hands, often. It's like a sacred mission for me.
 
High literature and the humanities have always been only for a small, elite portion of the population anyway. For the rest of the population, it has just been pearls before swine.
It's actually sad that people believe that. "High literature" as you put can be very engaging. Or sometimes incredibly boring. The problem in either case is that it takes work. My missus gave me a copy of Nietzsche's "Thus Spake Zarathustra" to read. I've read the same 1 1/2 section 3 times over 3 days and I'm still not sure I understand it completely.

I was very indifferent about reading as a kid. And when a teacher in 3rd or 4th grade pointed it out to my mother, whose own reading didn't go past Ladies Home Journal and Reader's Digest, she let me know very clearly how sad and disappointed in me she was in me it was like a kick in the ass and I started reading anything and everything. It was probably the single best thing she ever did for me. Today it's not uncommon for me to be reading 3-5 things at the same time. Some trash, some high literature.

Since my wife and I both read a lot our kids devoured books and both excelled in school. There is correlation there.
 
Most readers in modern America couldn't relate to Cannery Row or The Grapes of Wrath...............................never mind Paradise lost. To be honest, you probably would catch me reading Paradise Lost either.

It would be interesting to see if writers like Hemingway and Steinbeck would even make the shelves in today's America.
 
Why isn't "phonics" spelled with an F?

Things that make you go hmmmm.
 
My tiny granddaughters read. Well, one reads very well for her age and the other likes to pretend she's reading like her sister while looking at the pictures. But they have books in their hands, often. It's like a sacred mission for me.
Congrats. But I suspect your example is rare.
 
High literature and the humanities have always been only for a small, elite portion of the population anyway. For the rest of the population, it has just been pearls before swine.
Take Dickens, for example: A Tale of Two Cities, David Copperfield, Great Expections. High literature? I'd say so.

Not in his day. Many of his works were serialized in newspapers. When the stories got good crowds of the illiterate masses would crowd the NYC docks waiting for the ship from England carrying the newspaper with the latest installment. A few literate people would collect a few pennies and read Dickens aloud to the enthralled hoi polloi.
 
Most readers in modern America couldn't relate to Cannery Row or The Grapes of Wrath...............................never mind Paradise lost. To be honest, you probably would catch me reading Paradise Lost either.

It would be interesting to see if writers like Hemingway and Steinbeck would even make the shelves in today's America.
They are on my shelves along with Charles Dickens and D.H.Lawrence. And many other highbrow authors. Nowadays no matter where I go all I see lying around in books are junk romance novels. Yeesh.
 
Book bans, chatbots, pedagogical warfare: What it means to read has become a minefield.

But maybe the real problem is that children aren’t being taught to read at all. As test scores have slumped — a trend exacerbated by the disruptions of Covid — a long-smoldering conflict over teaching methods has flared anew. Parents, teachers and administrators have rebelled against widely used progressive approaches and demanded more emphasis on phonics. In May, David Banks, the chancellor of New York City’s public schools, for many years a stronghold of “whole language” instruction, announced a sharp pivot toward phonics, a major victory for the “science of reading” movement and a blow to devotees of entrenched “balanced literacy” methods.

The reading crisis reverberates at the higher reaches of the educational system too. As corporate management models and zealous state legislatures refashion the academy into a gated outpost of the gig economy, the humanities have lost their luster for undergraduates. According to reports in The New Yorker and elsewhere, fewer and fewer students are majoring in English, and many of those who do (along with their teachers) have turned away from canonical works of literature toward contemporary writing and pop culture. Is anyone reading “Paradise Lost” anymore? Are you?

This bothers me everyday. I Think about declining reading scores everyday.

Our species needs, and deserves, a citizenry with minds wide awake and a basic understanding of how the world works.
Carl Sagan

"To give to every citizen the information he needs...to understand his duties to his neighbors and country...to know his rights..."

- Thomas Jefferson, 1818

I was reading at 2. As were my children. Reading should be taught as early as possible. Everything else flows from that foundation.
 
The problem is reading isn't modeled anymore. Parents are on phones or computers, and kids aren't seeing them sit down and enjoy books, newspapers or magazines. Without positive modeling, reading becomes a chore, not something to be enjoyed.
This. Students now in college have parents and grandparents who "didn't like" to read and so didn't model it.
 
Why isn't "phonics" spelled with an F?

Things that make you go hmmmm.
Its called in English and the language is ****ing bonkers. No real rhyme or reason and a lot of stolen,... ahem borrowed stuff.
 
Take Dickens, for example: A Tale of Two Cities, David Copperfield, Great Expections. High literature? I'd say so.

Not in his day. Many of his works were serialized in newspapers. When the stories got good crowds of the illiterate masses would crowd the NYC docks waiting for the ship from England carrying the newspaper with the latest installment. A few literate people would collect a few pennies and read Dickens aloud to the enthralled hoi polloi.
Yeah I know. Apparently Shakespeare was writing his plays for the masses as well. The folks coming to the theater where his plays were being performed were the commoners, not the aristocracy.

And that's all fine. I understand. But most people spend most of their time reading stuff like this:

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my GF is a reading specialist

the problem is that in K-5 (at all the schools she's been to and taught at) the schools are trying to teach other courses so that test scores in those areas will go up - thus making the schools look good

they're focusing LESS and LESS on reading - because you don't have to read well to be able to take a test - its all about acing those tests
 
Its called in English and the language is ****ing bonkers. No real rhyme or reason and a lot of stolen,... ahem borrowed stuff.
Yes, incorporated. English is rich because of borrowings, but this does create spelling problems.

And sometimes pronunciation problems too. My favorite example: sherbet vs sorbet. (<shrieking> It's "sherbet"--"bet"!--not "bert"!!!)
Why the variance in pronunciation? "Sherbet" descends from the Persian while "sorbet" (pronounced "sor-bay") is French.

<SCREAMING> It's "sherBET," not "sherBERT." Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek!!!!!!!
 
Yes, incorporated. English is rich because of borrowings, but this does create spelling problems.

And sometimes pronunciation problems too. My favorite example: sherbet vs sorbet. (<shrieking> It's "sherbet"--"bet"!--not "bert"!!!)
Why the variance in pronunciation? "Sherbet" descends from the Persian while "sorbet" (pronounced "sor-bay") is French.

<SCREAMING> It's "sherBET," not "sherBERT." Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek!!!!!!!
This is why I like saying sherBERT. :ROFLMAO: Thanks for teaching me something I didnt know. Everyone in my family has always said sherBERT. I wonder why that is, and how it came to be? I like making both as they are delightfully light for very hot days. A nice strawberry sorbet sounds really good right now.
 
Yeah I know. Apparently Shakespeare was writing his plays for the masses as well. The folks coming to the theater where his plays were being performed were the commoners, not the aristocracy.

And that's all fine. I understand. But most people spend most of their time reading stuff like this:

09-these-ridiculous-headlines-about-aliens.jpg
I'm so glad you said that about Shakespeare. When he was 18 he got a girl pregnant, married her and she had twins. The man needed money.

So he wrote about sex and violence and cross dressing and bawdy jokes. A lot like films that make money today.

The fact that he was the greatest writer who ever lived helped some.
 
This is why I like saying sherBERT. :ROFLMAO: Thanks for teaching me something I didnt know. Everyone in my family has always said sherBERT. I wonder why that is, and how it came to be? I like making both as they are delightfully light for very hot days. A nice strawberry sorbet sounds really good right now.
"Everyone" says "sherBERT," and I've even seen grocery store signs and restaurant menus that misspell the word this way. It makes me insane. My folks taught me how to pronounce it (and "salmon") very early, so I've never understood why people add that "r."
 
This. Students now in college have parents and grandparents who "didn't like" to read and so didn't model it.

There are also any teachers who don't like reading. :(
 
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