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A great victory for the people of Egypt.
What I mean is we can't force them to follow our form directly. We can lay the ground work, but can't expect them to follow ours. We just simply have to give the blueprint.
A great victory for the people of Egypt.
I don't think Mubarak was arrested, so how could it be a military coup?
This, to me, is an incredible moment. Not just for Egypt, but for every country in the world. This is an example of a highly-militarized government being cast down by the popular will of the people without significant violence.
This is what gives me hope for a peaceful road to a Socialist society.
This, to me, is an incredible moment. Not just for Egypt, but for every country in the world. This is an example of a highly-militarized government being cast down by the popular will of the people without significant violence.
This is what gives me hope for a peaceful road to a Socialist society.
Some of the conservatives on this thread, if they'd been in Boston, Massachusetts in 1776, when the Declaration of Independence was read and distributed widely...
"This can't possibly work. There will be anarchy and chaos! People will die! THIS IS GOING TO BE VERY, VERY BAD. I can't believe you people are celebrating in the streets."
Those same conservatives, 1779...
"This war has been dragging on forever, and we are getting nowhere. Houses are being burned, people are being killed, and we're running out of money. We should have stayed loyal to King George. Stupid protesters and their stupid tea parties caused this entire mess. Oh, and George Washington is a complete incompetent who doesn't know what the hell he's doing."
Those same conservatives in 1787...
"Well, this will never work. It's practically a military coup. You realize that George Washington isn't a politician, he's a GENERAL IN THE ARMY. WE DON'T EVEN HAVE A FORMAL CONSTITUTION YET. Rights will be trampled on! Laws will be violated! The army will be running things!"
I'm sure glad that Apdst, Erod, Zimmer and the Prof weren't running things in the U.S. in 1776. Or, 1779. Or 1787.
We'd all still have british accents and be paying out the ass for tea.
That's why resistances and rebellions need to occur ONLY to install a democratic government. People will naturally take to Socialist ideas if they are not manipulated in the other direction as they are in the US.THAT road wouldn't be peaceful, at least not here.
The government of Egypt has been military for generations. The military currently has control of the government to avoid anarchy. I dont see any indications that this will become a military dictatorship, but only time will truly tell. I hope I'm right.They cast aside a highly-militarized government to have the army take complete control of the government?
That's why resistances and rebellions need to occur ONLY to install a democratic government. People will naturally take to Socialist ideas if they are not manipulated in the other direction as they are in the US.
Is this supposed to be relevant in any way to the topic ???
Don't try to derail my thread with nonsense !
Happy Times Are Hear Again. That's the name of a song isn't it?
And yes, my post was relevant. Sorry that it was, perhaps, too subtle for you.
Happy Times Are Hear Again. That's the name of a song isn't it?
:lamo Not exactly.
Some of the conservatives on this thread, if they'd been in Boston, Massachusetts in 1776, when the Declaration of Independence was read and distributed widely...
"This can't possibly work. There will be anarchy and chaos! People will die! THIS IS GOING TO BE VERY, VERY BAD. I can't believe you people are celebrating in the streets."
Those same conservatives, 1779...
"This war has been dragging on forever, and we are getting nowhere. Houses are being burned, people are being killed, and we're running out of money. We should have stayed loyal to King George. Stupid protesters and their stupid tea parties caused this entire mess. Oh, and George Washington is a complete incompetent who doesn't know what the hell he's doing."
Those same conservatives in 1787...
"Well, this will never work. It's practically a military coup. You realize that George Washington isn't a politician, he's a GENERAL IN THE ARMY. WE DON'T EVEN HAVE A FORMAL CONSTITUTION YET. Rights will be trampled on! Laws will be violated! The army will be running things!"
I'm sure glad that Apdst, Erod, Zimmer and the Prof weren't running things in the U.S. in 1776. Or, 1779. Or 1787.
We'd all still have british accents and be paying out the ass for tea.
That's why resistances and rebellions need to occur ONLY to install a democratic government. People will naturally take to Socialist ideas if they are not manipulated in the other direction as they are in the US.
The government of Egypt has been military for generations. The military currently has control of the government to avoid anarchy. I dont see any indications that this will become a military dictatorship, but only time will truly tell. I hope I'm right.
close, but no cigar.
Hoping for change and wishful thinking don't add to the discourse.
More revisionist history. I love how Libbos think that the Founders were Libbos, too. Whatta joke! :lamo
That Egypt's people got what they wanted without vast amounts of violence, death and destruction cannot be stated enough. Yet getting Mubarak out of the leadership position is step one. That the Vice President now (hopefully) handles the leadership until elections, is preferred. The last thing they need is a vacuum to happen. The harder part now occurs... putting together a fair and free election this fall, and making sure the darker elements of political and social power do not try to snatch the leadership of the country for their own. Then all this would be in vain. The third part would be establishing a new government which would be able to peacefully transfer power as the will of the people and not, say, like Iran.
Egypt's got a long way to go and the danger is only starting.