Dumb Ass Pelosi Stalls the Corona Virus Package Trying to Attach Abortion Funding

[Condor060]

Trump deserves the blame. He is responsible for a catalogue of errors, including creating a sense of non urgency. The US had two months to prepare. Donny was too busy golfing and tweeting childish insults when he should been leading from the front. But we all knew Trumps claims on the virus reaching the US were BS. Looking forward to Nov and getting rid of this inept excuse for a leader.

You mean like when Trump was banning travel from China back in January while Democrats were calling him a racist for it?

 

[TomFitz]

Nah, I just own the the provision of pointing out how fake the left is along with their fake outrage and fake news stories.

As one of the leading Trumpsters on this forum, you own your fool’s gold fuhrer.

He takes no responsibility.

That should inspire confidence!

 

[yankintx]

You mean like when Trump was banning travel from China back in January while Democrats were calling him a racist for it?

When Trump failed to get the pharmaceutical companies to produce testing kits. When Trump failed to alert the general public, hey soon we will have zero cases. When Trump failed to fund the CDC at appropriate levels. Notice one word keeps jumping out, fail. But hey Brownie, one hell of a job. You Righties live in an alternative reality. The bubble will burst in Nov.

 

[Condor060]

When Trump failed to get the pharmaceutical companies to produce testing kits. When Trump failed to alert the general public, hey soon we will have zero cases. When Trump failed to fund the CDC at appropriate levels. Notice one word keeps jumping out, fail.

You are a victim of left hysteria. Nothing you listed is even close to reality.

 

[yankintx]

You are a victim of left hysteria. Nothing you listed is even close to reality.

Care to refute it with cites. You do know what a cite is don't you? Put up or shut up.

I going to enjoy watching the Ol ***** Grabber loose in Nov. Then he can go back to what he does best, ogling underage girls in beauty contest. Maybe he will actually knock on that dressing room door before entering, give the underage Girls a chance to put some clothes on.

 

[beefheart]

You are a victim of left hysteria. Nothing you listed is even close to reality.

Again, your OP was bogus, how many times do you need to be called on it?

PolitiFact | No, Pelosi wasn’t caught trying to add abortion funding into coronavirus bill

No, Pelosi wasn’t caught trying to add abortion funding into coronavirus bill

The U.S. House passed a measure to help mitigate the economic toll of the coronavirus by providing financial assistance to people affected by the pandemic. The legislation passed overwhelmingly (363-40 on March 14) and provides billions of dollars so Americans can get free tests and, in some cases, receive two weeks of paid leave.

As debate about the bill began, we noticed claims going around that said House Speaker Nancy Pelosi got "caught" trying to sneak abortion funding into the package.

This is false. There’s no evidence that Pelosi was sneaking any funding toward abortion services in the bill.

A March 12 story by anti-abortion website "Life News" makes the claim. Its headline says: "Speaker Nancy Pelosi Caught Trying to Include Abortion Funding in Bill to Combat Coronavirus." We saw many other examples of the same basic headline.

The story was flagged as part of Facebook’s efforts to combat false news and misinformation on its News Feed. (Read more about our partnership with Facebook.)

 

[element94]

Now it won't get passed until next week. Dumbass Pelosi. And Dumbocrats are blaming Trump?

Pelosi Uses Virus Bill to Spread Abortion

Now, now, Condor060, if I may be so bold, you are not using very nice words.

 

[eohrnberger]

Well, you are reflecting your Trumpster roots. Even down to the choice of words.

Your claims are baseless, and don’t even make sense.

You Trumpsters cling to this Obama spied on Trump, and have every since Trump made the baseless claim that he had been wiretapped.

Trumpster victim mentality run rampant.

The Trump campaign was in regular and widespread communication with Russian intelligence assets throughout the entire 2016 campaign. That’s documented, no matter how loud Trumpsters like you yell “hoax”.

Two of FBI's FISA warrants for Carter Page 'not valid': DOJ ...
[url]www.washingtontimes.com › news › jan › two-carter-page-fisa-warra...[/URL]
Jan 23, 2020 - The Justice Department concluded two of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act warrants authorizing the surveillance of Carter Page were “not valid,” according to a court order declassified Thursday. ... Both disclosures came in a December filing with the Foreign Intelligence ...

Two of four FISA warrants against Carter Page declared invalid
[url]www.cnn.com › 2020/01/23 › politics › fisa-carter-page-warrants[/URL]
Jan 23, 2020 - President Donald Trump and Republican allies have consistently criticized the FBI's Russia investigation, and have cited the agency's missteps ...

Two of 4 warrants letting FBI spy on ex-Trump aide Carter ...
[url]www.nbcnews.com › politics › national-security › two-4-warrants-letti...[/URL]
Jan 23, 2020 - Two of the four court orders letting the FBI conduct secret national ... Two of 4 warrants letting FBI spy on ex-Trump aide Carter Page were not valid, says ... to a case, not an FBI supervisor, to sign any FISA warrant application ...
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And your response is 'nothing to see here'. So a supporter of police state just as long as it has your preferred political party affiliations. Yeah, that'll never bite you in the ass later, will it? :roll:

Do please continue to ignore all the mounting evidence it is as I described. I'm not in the business to same people from their own foolishness, stupidity, nor willful blindness to facts as plain as the nose on their faces.

Go in peace, none the less.

 

[TomFitz]

Two of FBI's FISA warrants for Carter Page 'not valid': DOJ ...
[url]www.washingtontimes.com › news › jan › two-carter-page-fisa-warra...[/URL]
Jan 23, 2020 - The Justice Department concluded two of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act warrants authorizing the surveillance of Carter Page were “not valid,” according to a court order declassified Thursday. ... Both disclosures came in a December filing with the Foreign Intelligence ...

Two of four FISA warrants against Carter Page declared invalid
[url]www.cnn.com › 2020/01/23 › politics › fisa-carter-page-warrants[/URL]
Jan 23, 2020 - President Donald Trump and Republican allies have consistently criticized the FBI's Russia investigation, and have cited the agency's missteps ...

Two of 4 warrants letting FBI spy on ex-Trump aide Carter ...
[url]www.nbcnews.com › politics › national-security › two-4-warrants-letti...[/URL]
Jan 23, 2020 - Two of the four court orders letting the FBI conduct secret national ... Two of 4 warrants letting FBI spy on ex-Trump aide Carter Page were not valid, says ... to a case, not an FBI supervisor, to sign any FISA warrant application ...
​

And your response is 'nothing to see here'. So a supporter of police state just as long as it has your preferred political party affiliations. Yeah, that'll never bite you in the ass later, will it? :roll:

Do please continue to ignore all the mounting evidence it is as I described. I'm not in the business to same people from their own foolishness, stupidity, nor willful blindness to facts as plain as the nose on their faces.

Go in peace, none the less.

Your last attempt was a deliberately misleading collection of reports summarized by a right wing trash blog. In fact, Flynn was not wiretapped. Sergi Kislyak was. And Flynn was dumb enough that the possiility never occurred to him.

I will grant that Carter Page was trampled on. But the FBI had already identified him as someone who had been approached by the Russians.

And since they were aware of many contacts between Trump campaign officials and Russian oligarchs and intelligence assets, there was ever reason for alarm. At that point, they didn’t even know about the Trump Tower meeting.

No candidate for President of the United States ever even considered engaging in such flagrantly compromising behavior.

Of course, Russian banks and Russian affiliated banks are the only ones who have been willing to lend Donald Trump one thin dime for nearly twenty years.

So, he knows where his bread is buttered, as his behavior has made clear.

He spoke the words that will be on his tombstone....

“No, I take no responsibility at all”.

Words that should never, ever, come out of the mouth of any public official, no matter what.

 

[Condor060]

Now, now, Condor060, if I may be so bold, you are not using very nice words.

I'm better now.

 

[bluesmoke]

You are using a November 2017 article to explain why Pelosi tried to attach her abortion bill to the Corona virus stimulus package?

Sorry, huge fail. wake up.

I referred you to the wrong article. Below is the correct article link relating to the then known facts of the matter---that Pelosi was not trying to “sneak in” any language to do with “bogging down the debate with secret language on abortion” as you claim.

The following excerpt is in the 6th paragraph of the article in the link further below:

“The concern the White House officials raised does not appear to have been the literal inclusion of language about abortion in a coronavirus aid package, but, instead, stemmed from a fear over how Pelosi’s bill could have set, as described by National Review, “a precedent under which health claims for all procedures, including abortion, could be reimbursed with federal funds.” As described above, there have been competing accounts of the negotiations. One claim is that that Pelosi attempted to insert pro-abortion language into the bill or, possibly, omit the inclusion of Hyde Amendment statements. The other is that the White House wanted to insert language, likely Hyde Amendment-based, into the bill themselves.”

Did Disagreement Over Abortion Slow Coronavirus-Relief Talks?

Your OP claim is a failure. Wake up to the facts.

 

[eohrnberger]

Your last attempt was a deliberately misleading collection of reports summarized by a right wing trash blog. In fact, Flynn was not wiretapped. Sergi Kislyak was. And Flynn was dumb enough that the possiility never occurred to him.

I will grant that Carter Page was trampled on. But the FBI had already identified him as someone who had been approached by the Russians.

Was this before or after Page helped the FBI's counter espionage effort and the conviction of Russian spy Evgeny Buryakov?

A U.S. Naval Academy alumnus, Page cooperated as a witness in that case, which was coordinated with the bureau’s Counterespionage Section Chief Peter Strzok in Washington, and he helped the government convict the Russian spy. Evgeny Buryakov pleaded guilty to espionage-related charges on March 11, 2016. FBI agents, as well as federal prosecutors, huddled with Page around that time to tie up loose ends, he said. “It had absolutely nothing to do with the election interference story, which surfaced months later,” Page said.

Court records appear to back him up. Buryakov was sentenced in May 2016 and deported to Russia early last year. Schiff maintains that Page "remained on the radar of Russian intelligence and the FBI” due to the prior case, which gave them grounds to spy on him “independent" of the dossier.
https://www.realclearinvestigations...ter_page_russian_spy__or_fbi_honor_scout.html

Given that Carter was a witness in this case that lead to a conviction of one of their spies, what reason on Earth would the Russians trust Carter? To recruit him? At the risk of Carter turning them in a second time? I think your logic needs some work here.

And since they were aware of many contacts between Trump campaign officials and Russian oligarchs and intelligence assets, there was ever reason for alarm. At that point, they didn’t even know about the Trump Tower meeting.

It is a matter of historical fact that presidential campaigns talk to foreign dignitaries, and foreign dignitaries talk to presidential campaigns, to find out where they each stand with the other. The Obama campaign talked to the Russians, and so did the Hillary campaign, yet no 'reason for alarm' there. Any justification for this inconsistency?

No candidate for President of the United States ever even considered engaging in such flagrantly compromising behavior.

Which was that again? So far, doesn't seem you've cited much.

Of course, Russian banks and Russian affiliated banks are the only ones who have been willing to lend Donald Trump one thin dime for nearly twenty years.

So, he knows where his bread is buttered, as his behavior has made clear.

He spoke the words that will be on his tombstone....

“No, I take no responsibility at all”.

Words that should never, ever, come out of the mouth of any public official, no matter what.

Seriously? This is oh so typical of public officials and politicians. Where have you been?

When was the last time that either Obama or Hillary or Schumer or Pelosi or anyone else in DC ever take responsibility for the 'unintended consequences' when the consequences were blatantly clear for anyone with two brain cells and a neuron connecting them?

If that is your bar, then there's very few public officials and politicians that can raise to that level. That you are only applying this to Trump and can't imagine applying it to any Democrats tells allot about you.

 

[Abbazorkzog]

Good god what an epic failure of a thread