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Dr. Drew: This is an overblown, press-created hysteria

They had a right to hold her accountable for her refusal. She is running a business and has no more right to refuse them service for their wedding than she would to refuse service to an interracial couple for theirs. I'm sure she would agree that refusing floral arrangements to other weddings based on the relative religions, races, etc of the couple would be wrong, even if based on religious beliefs.

She doesnt get to defy the law simply because she is a Grandma.

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Pilot condemned Jesus and then washed his hands as if to remove his guilt and bad judgment. These two homosexual lovers may have been perfectly within their legal rights as interpreted by biased judges, but their actions proved they wanted to hurt Grandma very bad, ruin her business, have a court levy huge fines on her and possibly destroy her savings and cause her the loss of her home. While democrats see such vicious hatred as righteous democrat indignation, I see it as uncivilized savage barbarian hateful vengeance and anger.

Democrats also went after Manafort in overboard hatred and anger as demonstrated by the fact that they seized Manafort in the middle of the night with a horde of armed police and threw him into jail and solitary confinement for the same crime they never charged his partner with at all because his partner was a friend of the Clintons. I hate hateful scumbag barbarian democrats, but certainly not all democrats.
 
I don't believe there is a conclusive study about asymptomatic people yet. What does this have to do with the media? What's your point?

You said the media was fear-mongering. This has nothing to do with fear-mongering.

If there is no conclusive study about asymptomatic persons being contagious, being spreaders, then why does the media mention it so often?
 
If there is no conclusive study about asymptomatic persons being contagious, being spreaders, then why does the media mention it so often?

Speculation. Public service. So people can understand better understand how this virus spreads, so that they can take the necessary precautions. However, that's not fear-mongering.
 
What's occurring isn't 'terrorism'.

Sorry that upsets some people so much.

It seems to upset you.

Paraphrasing an article I read many years ago by a USMC General given at a symposium on terror, he said that terror is a natural response by various organisms including humans to certain stimuli. That makes much sense IMO.

He then went on to define terrorism as the deliberate manipulation of the terror response/reaction, and of course terrorist as one who practices such deliberate manipulation of a natural response.

If that all sounds too difficult for you, let me know.
 
Speculation. Public service. So people can understand better understand how this virus spreads, so that they can take the necessary precautions. However, that's not fear-mongering.

Yes, or so that fear-mongering can be promoted. Be afraid, be very afraid. Pictures of refrigerated trailers being used as morgues in Manhattan and all over the world are most helpful in scaring hell out of people.

Maybe I'm much more observant regarding propaganda than you are?
 
Yes, or so that fear-mongering can be promoted. Be afraid, be very afraid. Pictures of refrigerated trailers being used as morgues in Manhattan and all over the world are most helpful in scaring hell out of people.

Maybe I'm much more observant regarding propaganda than you are?

Yes, you are simply too clever by half.
 
It seems to upset you.

Paraphrasing an article I read many years ago by a USMC General given at a symposium on terror, he said that terror is a natural response by various organisms including humans to certain stimuli. That makes much sense IMO.

He then went on to define terrorism as the deliberate manipulation of the terror response/reaction, and of course terrorist as one who practices such deliberate manipulation of a natural response.

If that all sounds too difficult for you, let me know.

Nothing upsetting at all about watching conspiracists struggle with the English language to try and make a dishonest point.

It's what you do, after all.

Sad that you're so dependent on willful self-delusion to make the world make sense, but it's simply not my problem.
 
It's hard to argue with the truth.

Caused by Trump's press conferences and the compliant media there is a lot of hysteria going on. Time for some facts.

On Friday in New York the wind was blowing, and it was cold and rainy, the perfect breeding ground for the common cold. N.Y. had a cold wet winter lasting four months. It's downtown area is dominated by the elderly and the homeless, and public conveyances are the most popular means of transport. The N.Y. area is infested with Covid-19. Is anyone surprised?

Yesterday, there was a total of 9,602 deaths in the U.S. attributed to the coronavirus. 6,170 deaths have occurred in New York (N.Y. metro area extends to New Jersey), Michigan (Detroit metro area), and Louisiana (New Orleans metro area). That means in the other 46 states 3,432 deaths have occurred among the elderly, sick, homeless, and poor. That means a normal death rate. That means the epidemic has been localized and Covid-19 is not pandemic within the United States. Those figures are cumulative total of a three month period.

Are the elderly in nursing homes and hospitals and the homeless, who were already sick before becoming infected by Covid-19, dying of lung disease, pneumonia, heart disease, influenza, etc. or are they dying because of Covid-19?

The evidence points to the former.

UChicago Medicine reports, for those who contract the disease "80% get what feels like a bad cold and recover at home." The publication goes on to report many did not even know they had the virus.

Also, there is this from Business Insider, "80% of deaths associated with COVID-19 were among adults aged ≥65 years with the highest percentage of severe outcomes among persons aged ≥85 years."

The media reported that a 39-year old health worker died of the coronavirus. Reports now show she did not have the virus. That was not reported in the media. There have countless examples of this fear mongering, and the truth was hidden from the public. Coronavirus test comes back NEGATIVE for New Orleans social worker found dead | Daily Mail Online

At a recent press conference, Dr. Deborah Birx presented a rather startling graph. It showed that New York state and New Jersey, which is connected to the N.Y. city metro area, are anomalies. The rest of the states, all 48 of them, appear to have Covid-19 under control, although Detroit and New Orleans may be the exception.

Dr. Birx also told us that, while the young do get infected, they recover. She said that the mortality rate "increases with age and preexisting medical conditions."

Conclusion: Take away New York City, Detroit, and New Orleans and the media wouldn't have much to talk about.
 
Right wingers: It's overblown by the media!
Right wing Administration: This week will be like Pearl Harbor!
Right wing administration: this is like wartime! Unprecedented! No one could have predicted it!
Right wingers: totally overblown by democrats/media who want people to die!
Right wing administrations: Keep going outside to help the economy, don't listen to the medical experts!!

A complete and total failure of the new right wing.

bunch of lying idiots.



it's so weird to think that the Republican Party was once the Party of Christianity (or at least faked being).
 
bunch of lying idiots.it's so weird to think that the Republican Party was once the Party of Christianity (or at least faked being).
It's back to civil wars south.
Murder Americans to keep human slaves? Sure, if Trump says its best, why not? MAGA.
 
It's back to civil wars south.
Murder Americans to keep human slaves? Sure, if Trump says its best, why not? MAGA.

The South Has Finally Risen...


...under a Manhattan elitist con man.
 
Pilot condemned Jesus and then washed his hands as if to remove his guilt and bad judgment. These two homosexual lovers may have been perfectly within their legal rights as interpreted by biased judges, but their actions proved they wanted to hurt Grandma very bad, ruin her business, have a court levy huge fines on her and possibly destroy her savings and cause her the loss of her home. While democrats see such vicious hatred as righteous democrat indignation, I see it as uncivilized savage barbarian hateful vengeance and anger.

Democrats also went after Manafort in overboard hatred and anger as demonstrated by the fact that they seized Manafort in the middle of the night with a horde of armed police and threw him into jail and solitary confinement for the same crime they never charged his partner with at all because his partner was a friend of the Clintons. I hate hateful scumbag barbarian democrats, but certainly not all democrats.
Wow the deflections.

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Are the elderly in nursing homes and hospitals, the homeless and the poor, who were already sick before becoming infected by Covid-19, dying of lung disease, pneumonia, heart disease, diabetes influenza, etc. or are they dying because of Covid-19?

The evidence points to the former.

Take away New York City, Detroit, and New Orleans and the media wouldn't have much to talk about.

USA Today reports, "Black Americans are overwhelmingly dying of coronavirus at much higher rates compared to other Americans in some major cities, but most federal officials and states are not keeping track or releasing racial data [or age data] on coronavirus victims, raising concerns about care for the nation's most vulnerable populations.

With coronavirus cases and related deaths soaring in cities with significant black populations, including New Orleans, Detroit and New York, civil rights groups, Democratic lawmakers and the White House have all called on federal health officials to release racial data to ensure resources and information are reaching every community affected by the outbreak." Who is dying from coronavirus? More black people die in major cities

In fact, Trump's government isn't releasing any data of any kind on the victims of the coronavirus.
 
outside a few hotspots in the United States, the media would have very little to cover.
COVID-19 is indeed being ridiculously over-hyped by the media. That includes Fox News who has been deliberately inciting panic. I was listening to Fox News on the radio yesterday and they began with dramatic high energy music and the announcer says, "Millions died during the Spanish Flu pandemic of 1918. Will millions of Americans die because of COVID-19?" To even make such a comparison in that manner is deliberate attempt to incite fear and panic. Fox, of course, is not the only media source deliberately inciting panic by intentionally over-hyping COVID-19.

COVID-19 is being grossly overblown by the media, which is causing those in government and many US citizens, to panic and act irrationally. COVID-19 is no worse, and even better in many cases, than other influenza epidemics we've had in prior years.
AIDS is far more deadly and has killed more people than any other virus in history yet the homosexual lobby has managed to keep Americans from resorting to drastic measures to try to stop its spread.
I must agree with Dr. Drew. Since this began, we have been subjected to terrorism delivered by the media. Covid 19 is real, and many are dying, but that is the history of mankind.

The fear-mongering is incessant.



you guys feel any different now that Drew has done a 180?
 
you guys feel any different now that Drew has done a 180?

Lot's of people have been motivated by unfolding facts to view this virus differently now than they did at first. Do you remember Nancy Pelosi's now famous words when touring Sand Francisco's Chinatown on February 24, "That's what we're trying to do today is to say everything is fine here. Come because precautions have been taken. The city is on top of the situation."

Why was Pelosi on TV encouraging Americans to flood the market at Chinatown on Feb 24? Because democrats were attempting to paint Trump as evil for slapping travel restrictions on flights from China on January 31. How long can democrats keep up their ignorant hateful dishonest charade?
 
you guys feel any different now that Drew has done a 180?

The fear-mongering is still incessant on MSM.

The disease is real and the herd is being thinned for sure.

There are signs, reported even by MSM just last night, that herd immunity is growing.

NBC had a short interview with a woman who was an MD, not in New York but somewhere up north, working in some private hospital. That hospital is now testing its staff by bloodwork looking for antibodies. Though she has never shown any symptoms at all, it turns out she has Covid antibodies in her blood. There was a younger male staff member in the same situation, though I think he had shown mild symptoms.
 
Lot's of people have been motivated by unfolding facts to view this virus differently now than they did at first. Do you remember Nancy Pelosi's now famous words when touring Sand Francisco's Chinatown on February 24, "That's what we're trying to do today is to say everything is fine here. Come because precautions have been taken. The city is on top of the situation."

Why was Pelosi on TV encouraging Americans to flood the market at Chinatown on Feb 24? Because democrats were attempting to paint Trump as evil for slapping travel restrictions on flights from China on January 31. How long can democrats keep up their ignorant hateful dishonest charade?

That is so typically Rush/Sean. Instead of addressing the actual point, Dr Drew doing a 180 after people in this thread agreed with him, you threw up Pelosi's name twice, Chinatown, San Francisco, China and Democrats.

You have learned well. And you're not fooling anyone as you proclaim to be a evangelical.
 
We were wrong like most of the world.

Everybody's corrupt. Everybody lies. The whole world got it wrong. Everybody cheats on their wives. Everybody cheats people out of money.

It's the perfect racket.
 
The fear-mongering is still incessant on MSM.

The disease is real and the herd is being thinned for sure.

There are signs, reported even by MSM just last night, that herd immunity is growing.

NBC had a short interview with a woman who was an MD, not in New York but somewhere up north, working in some private hospital. That hospital is now testing its staff by bloodwork looking for antibodies. Though she has never shown any symptoms at all, it turns out she has Covid antibodies in her blood. There was a younger male staff member in the same situation, though I think he had shown mild symptoms.

Of course there is going to be a herd immunity. That happens naturally.

But I'm glad you skipped over the 180 that Dr Drew did after people here agreed with him. It was expected.
 
That is so typically Rush/Sean. Instead of addressing the actual point, Dr Drew doing a 180 after people in this thread agreed with him, you threw up Pelosi's name twice, Chinatown, San Francisco, China and Democrats.

You have learned well. And you're not fooling anyone as you proclaim to be a evangelical.

I am resisting democrat efforts to turn this tragedy into a club to beat Trump over the head with. I don't blame Pelosi for downplaying fears at first and then reversing herself later when more facts became known. I only bring her up to try to urge democrats not to buy into the dishonest partisan democrat propagandist attacks on Trump for things he should not be blamed for either.
 
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