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Down to 500 Deaths a Day Nationally. And For This We are Shutting Down the Country?

Ladies and gentlemen, America is now down to an average of 509 deaths, allegedly from COVID-19 per day for the past three days. Extrapolating current statistics, of that 509, only 125 are under age 70. Of that 125, only 21 are under 70 and have no preexisting conditions. And this is assuming you believe the already-inflated government numbers, which I do not.

We shut down America, forced everybody to wear masks, cost the economy trillions of dollars, lost millions of jobs........all for 21 people.

The goal posts have been moved by the left. Thresholds of decreasing cases and deaths have been reached, yet leftwing governors are STEPPING UP restrictions. In my state, our Democrat governor beginning tomorrow will require masks in every indoor business and government building. This is AFTER new cases have dropped over a two-week period as the guideline for reopening business as laid out by the administration.

This PURELY POLITICAL. I haven't worn a mask, and I'm not about to start. I'll go wherever I've gone before, and I'll make them try to stop me. Got my phone cam at the ready.

THERE IS NO CRISIS and NEVER WAS. It's time to stand up and be counted.

Eric Trump was 100% correct. This story will suddenly vanish after election day, but it will be front and center until then. The leftwing media is once again LYING to us, as they have for five years in all matters relating to President Trump.

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It is not about stopping the pandemic or keeping our economy from crashing. It is about regaining power by the democrats. Spreading this virus, destroying our economy, and killing our elderly is just the price to pay.
 
It is not about stopping the pandemic or keeping our economy from crashing. It is about regaining power by the democrats. Spreading this virus, destroying our economy, and killing our elderly is just the price to pay.

LoL

Covid 19 is NOT political.

It does not stop at boarders or state lines .
 
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The virus is a completely overblown fabrication of the left, guys. If we weren't testing so much people, we'd realize that there were only ever around fifteen cases, and those cases quickly dropped to zero.

I really wish someone with a lot of time on their hands would compile a timeline of comments made by right-wingers on this forum regarding the virus. There's an uncomfortable discussion to be had as to when social distancing and lockdowns effecting people's livlihoods outweigh the potential death-toll, but right-wingers almost immediately lost all credability in that discussion and continue to double-down on divorcing themselves from reality. The only people we should lend an ear to are medical profesionals who are experts on the spread of viruses.

I think that it's not neccessarily callous to suggest that there's a such thing as going too far to save X amount of people, depending on the number you plug into that variable and depending on how damaging measures taken are, and to how many people, but it's absolutely callous to suggest that because most affected are the elderly, then nobody should care.

It's a certainty that the spread would be faster and the death-toll greater without having taken extreme measures to slow the spread, so I fail to see why pointing at what you percieve to be low numbers means anything at all. You guys were wrong about everything, and listening to you is like listening to Hillary Clinton on the subject of winning presidential elections.

I empathize with most who've been financially afflicted because of all this, and understand that retaining my job has me sitting from an entirely different perspective; but to those of you who have fought tooth and nail against the economic well-being of a great portion of the population, those of you who insist that the massive incease of income and wealth inequality is justified because of the assertion that we live in a meritocracy, particulaly those among you that would fight increased wages, who defend corporate greed and control, who defend multi-bilionaires at the cost of the majority . . . I have absolutely no sympathy towards.
 
LoL

Covid 19 is NOT political.

It does not stop at boarders or state lines .

It can't be spread by protestors only people at work can spread it. We can have rallies and parades but if you go to work this virus will get out of control. Sounds political to me. Of course it is political. Especially when the left can use it to regain power. Too bad for the people that die.
 
It can't be spread by protestors only people at work can spread it. We can have rallies and parades but if you go to work this virus will get out of control. Sounds political to me. Of course it is political. Especially when the left can use it to regain power. Too bad for the people that die.

Trump is the one making it political, rather than a public health and safety issue, which is what it is. Trump, the so-called non politician, cynically makes everything political, even things that could potentially harm Americans. He is the most cynically political President of all time.
 
It can't be spread by protestors only people at work can spread it. We can have rallies and parades but if you go to work this virus will get out of control. Sounds political to me. Of course it is political. Especially when the left can use it to regain power. Too bad for the people that die.

If one works outside and wears a mask there is less of a chance Covid 19 will spread.

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New York’s Democratic governor, Andrew Cuomo, last week pulled no punches in seeking some vindication for himself and other Democrats who battled the virus first and faced skepticism from Trump and other Republicans.

“You played politics with this virus, and you lost,” he said on CNN, indirectly addressing Republicans who downplayed the virus. “You told the people of this state, you told the people of this country, the White House: ‘Don’t worry about it. Go about your business. This is all Democratic hyperbole.’”

“It was never politics,” Cuomo said. “It was always science.”

Coronavirus''' spread in GOP territory, explained in 6 charts

Parades are canceled in most places I know.

One community near us is going to have a drive by parade.

The parade will be stationary and those who wish to see it will drive by to look at it.

I thought that was a pretty clever well thought out plan.
 
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Mahmont fails again! He is a sucker for punishment.
 
I just don't get why this study has any relevance except to the left. Cuomo is to blame for many deaths, including his handling of nursing homes, as well as DeBlasio and Pelosi and many others in New York for being caught in not reacting swiftly to the fact that this virus came from China and anyone who kept up on the details knew it started in November and NOT February. Cuomo and other leaders are trying to indoctrinate people into believing it didn't get here until February and it was from Europe.

Why do you call anyone who disagrees with you a leftist?
 
It can't be spread by protestors only people at work can spread it. We can have rallies and parades but if you go to work this virus will get out of control. Sounds political to me. Of course it is political. Especially when the left can use it to regain power. Too bad for the people that die.

And of course Trump whining about his 'numbers' and suggesting testing is slowed down to make them look better for his election prospects, isn't a cynical political move?
 
Why do you call anyone who disagrees with you a leftist?

Conservatives can only 'think' in binary terms; up/down, left/right, black/white. Life is wonderfully simplistic for your average blissfully ignorant (and apparently proud of it), conservative. I believe it was the poster to whom you replied who stated, categorically, that the virus would be forgotten by August. Good, only four weeks to go then.
 
Why do you call anyone who disagrees with you a leftist?

I go by the way someone posts. There are very few liberals left in America, or in the world, today. John Kennedy was a liberal. MLK was a liberal. Today, they would be scorned. Kennedy was for lower taxes and said "Aks not what your country can do for you. As what YOU can do for your country." That line for me, says it all and is one that everyone should live by. Instead, it has been ignored. Why? Because the Democrats in this country realized that they cannot maintain power, control and the money that goes with it unless they keep people dependent. We have a socialistic school system here in the United States and our colleges are not teaching a liberal philosophy but a leftist one where America is bad and evil and the government needs to do X, Y and Z for it's citizenry and GIVE them things such as free lunches, free medical, free housing, free college and now, we have groups demanding that FB go through postings and eliminate those that their group considers "hate" speech. We have become a society of demanding, petulant children that cannot take being offended. The side that used to have Kennedy, MLK, Hubert Humphrey and. yes, even Bill Clinton is no longer recognizable and has morphed into America hating radicals who demand, demand and when they don't get it....riot and kill.
 
And of course Trump whining about his 'numbers' and suggesting testing is slowed down to make them look better for his election prospects, isn't a cynical political move?

We have the democrats using testing not to stop the spread but for political reasons. First it was the lack of testing that was the reason for the spread and Trumps fault. Now that we have been testing the spread is out of control again. Testing is only being used for political gain not to stop the spread. The fact is if the people would practice social distancing and stop the spread this virus would go away after a few weeks. There would be no more people infected to spread this disease and without new host it will be eradicated. But with everyone doing their best to spread this disease by ignorance provided by both parties things will continue to get worse. Trump is not whining he is stating the fact that the democrats are using the numbers not to stop the spread but for political gain. Of course the republicans are doing the same. Thanks to the lies and the twisting of the truth for political gain instead of accurate information to stop this pandemic people are dying and this disease is again spreading. Both parties need to be gotten rid of if we have any hope of not destroying this country and to stop the unnecessary deaths.
 
If one works outside and wears a mask there is less of a chance Covid 19 will spread.

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Coronavirus''' spread in GOP territory, explained in 6 charts

Parades are canceled in most places I know.

One community near us is going to have a drive by parade.

The parade will be stationary and those who wish to see it will drive by to look at it.

I thought that was a pretty clever well thought out plan.

Parades, conventions, vacations, etc. Havnt taken one in so long.
 
I go by the way someone posts. There are very few liberals left in America, or in the world, today. John Kennedy was a liberal. MLK was a liberal. Today, they would be scorned. Kennedy was for lower taxes and said "Aks not what your country can do for you. As what YOU can do for your country." That line for me, says it all and is one that everyone should live by. Instead, it has been ignored. Why? Because the Democrats in this country realized that they cannot maintain power, control and the money that goes with it unless they keep people dependent. We have a socialistic school system here in the United States and our colleges are not teaching a liberal philosophy but a leftist one where America is bad and evil and the government needs to do X, Y and Z for it's citizenry and GIVE them things such as free lunches, free medical, free housing, free college and now, we have groups demanding that FB go through postings and eliminate those that their group considers "hate" speech. We have become a society of demanding, petulant children that cannot take being offended. The side that used to have Kennedy, MLK, Hubert Humphrey and. yes, even Bill Clinton is no longer recognizable and has morphed into America hating radicals who demand, demand and when they don't get it....riot and kill.

In your opinion. What you lack is proof. You have a very simplistic world view.
 
There are three billion liberals in the world. I said it so it is true.
 
Parades, conventions, vacations, etc. Havnt taken one in so long.

I know neither have I.

I would like to be able to hug and kiss my grandchildren again, instead it is virtual hugs and throwing kisses from yards away.

Until we have an effective vaccine we have to do everything we can to keep each other from getting Covid 19.
 
In your opinion. What you lack is proof. You have a very simplistic world view.

That's because you are in denial, like someone who needs to hang onto false ideas.
 
That's because you are in denial, like someone who needs to hang onto false ideas.

In denial of what? Your absurd claims that you cannot back up with proof? Wrong. Name some of my false ideas.
 
Do you ever tire of saying stupid self-serving stuff? Let me answer for you..."No. Not at all. I love the sound of my voice. Even when I make no sense!"

He's correct, maybe for the wrong reason I'll give you that.
 
I go by the way someone posts. There are very few liberals left in America, or in the world, today. John Kennedy was a liberal. MLK was a liberal. Today, they would be scorned. Kennedy was for lower taxes and said "Aks not what your country can do for you. As what YOU can do for your country." That line for me, says it all and is one that everyone should live by. Instead, it has been ignored. Why? Because the Democrats in this country realized that they cannot maintain power, control and the money that goes with it unless they keep people dependent. We have a socialistic school system here in the United States and our colleges are not teaching a liberal philosophy but a leftist one where America is bad and evil and the government needs to do X, Y and Z for it's citizenry and GIVE them things such as free lunches, free medical, free housing, free college and now, we have groups demanding that FB go through postings and eliminate those that their group considers "hate" speech. We have become a society of demanding, petulant children that cannot take being offended. The side that used to have Kennedy, MLK, Hubert Humphrey and. yes, even Bill Clinton is no longer recognizable and has morphed into America hating radicals who demand, demand and when they don't get it....riot and kill.

Barry Goldwater, who I campaigned for back in the day, would be considered a centrist today as the Republican Party freight trains toward the far right horizon. I believe you fear "liberals" so much because you don't really have any idea who folks to your left are. There are a lot of former Republicans being called liberals around here by whiners.
 
I go by the way someone posts. There are very few liberals left in America, or in the world, today. John Kennedy was a liberal. MLK was a liberal. Today, they would be scorned. Kennedy was for lower taxes and said "Aks not what your country can do for you. As what YOU can do for your country." That line for me, says it all and is one that everyone should live by. Instead, it has been ignored. Why? Because the Democrats in this country realized that they cannot maintain power, control and the money that goes with it unless they keep people dependent. We have a socialistic school system here in the United States and our colleges are not teaching a liberal philosophy but a leftist one where America is bad and evil and the government needs to do X, Y and Z for it's citizenry and GIVE them things such as free lunches, free medical, free housing, free college and now, we have groups demanding that FB go through postings and eliminate those that their group considers "hate" speech. We have become a society of demanding, petulant children that cannot take being offended. The side that used to have Kennedy, MLK, Hubert Humphrey and. yes, even Bill Clinton is no longer recognizable and has morphed into America hating radicals who demand, demand and when they don't get it....riot and kill.

No, you don't go by what someone posts at all. You do exactly as was pointed out; you label all who disagree with you as leftists. Try to find one of my posts that has leftist content, and explain what makes it leftist. You don't even seem to know what leftist means.
 
I go by the way someone posts. There are very few liberals left in America, or in the world, today. John Kennedy was a liberal. MLK was a liberal. Today, they would be scorned. Kennedy was for lower taxes and said "Aks not what your country can do for you. As what YOU can do for your country." That line for me, says it all and is one that everyone should live by. Instead, it has been ignored. Why? Because the Democrats in this country realized that they cannot maintain power, control and the money that goes with it unless they keep people dependent. We have a socialistic school system here in the United States and our colleges are not teaching a liberal philosophy but a leftist one where America is bad and evil and the government needs to do X, Y and Z for it's citizenry and GIVE them things such as free lunches, free medical, free housing, free college and now, we have groups demanding that FB go through postings and eliminate those that their group considers "hate" speech. We have become a society of demanding, petulant children that cannot take being offended. The side that used to have Kennedy, MLK, Hubert Humphrey and. yes, even Bill Clinton is no longer recognizable and has morphed into America hating radicals who demand, demand and when they don't get it....riot and kill.

Once again you parrot the righties playbook which has been out there since the days of John F Kennedy. Just one example to start off -- Yes, JFK pushed for lower taxes. He wanted to lower the 1%ers tax rate from 92% to 63%. The high tax rate was intended to pay off the massive debts accrued fighting WWII. 63% top tax rate was the "lower" tax rate he recommended.

You have no actual idea, of socialism, probably not capable of comprehending complex subjects but that shouldn't be other peoples' problems. Like many other ignorant folks, you apply "socialism" to every project, idea and institution that doesn't comply with your basic political beliefs. You and many others seem to have become religious worshippers, cult members of some vague concepts that are completely and utterly unworkable.

"a socialistic school system" has no rational definition but I'm sure you can supply the readers with how you define it.

"our colleges are not teaching a liberal philosophy but a leftist one where America is bad and evil" Aaaargh!! How many college students do you know? What subjects are they studying?

Tell us - what's wrong with "free medical" and "free college"? Why are American life-spans decreasing? How does every other developed nation provide medical care for their citizens?

Yes, I know and understand academia is not the thing for every high school graduate. I know because I've done both - university for an MA in History and trade school to become a diesel mechanic on large yachts - more fun than teaching history. But, there are kids in America today with the intelligence and the drive but without the cash to attend a university. I helped pay for a family member to attend one of the top 10 unis in America, just a bit over $250,000 for a degree and that was with a partial scholarship.
 
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