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Double Standards by Left on Kavanaugh Allegations

MrShangles said:
Clinton= rape
Trump = consensual sex with porn star
That’s just a little bit different don’t you think


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Rape allegations have been made against both.

Two perverts in the same pod
 
Chillfolks said:
One helps the Democratic Party the other hurts it.

The same reason the Republican party harps on Clinton and his infidelity and gloss over Trump raw dogging a porn star and multiple affairs he's had.
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sorry chill, you're glossing over the real point. democrats don't care he had an affair with a porn star. The issue was his sexual harassment. And it was also the flaming hypocrisy of conservatives.
 
Vern said:
sorry chill, you're glossing over the real point. democrats don't care he had an affair with a porn star. The issue was his sexual harassment. And it was also the flaming hypocrisy of conservatives.
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I could possibly take that serious if the Democrats did not have a recent history of supporting politicians accused of sexual harassment. If they hadn't elected a president who was accused of the same kinds of behaviours that they criticize Trump on. The hypocrisy oozes out from both sides equally.
 
Chillfolks said:
I could possibly take that serious if the Democrats did not have a recent history of supporting politicians accused of sexual harassment. If they hadn't elected a president who was accused of the same kinds of behaviours that they criticize Trump on. The hypocrisy oozes out from both sides equally.
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No chill, Clinton was elected as an adulterer not a harasser or rapist. conservative howled with disgust now obediently sit quietly. You call Bill a rapist because a woman accused him of rape but ignore that trump was also accused of rape. Democrats aint perfect but the hypocrisy flows like a mighty river from the right.
 
sanman said:
I'm starting this thread after I just saw a moderator trying to discourage discussion over the double standard among Democrats / Leftists in pursuing the vague allegations against Bret Kavanaugh, even while glossing over and downplaying the serious allegations of domestic assault by Keith Ellison. I feel that the Democrats are engaging in double standards in selectively pursuing witch hunts against their enemies, even while ignoring the abuses that occur in their own midst.

Keith Ellison is such an example of that. His ex made specific allegations of domestic assault, and even had medical visits to prove it. Ted Kennedy is an example of that. Look at what he did - he drunkenly crashed a car into the water off Chappaquiddick Island and left poor Mary Jo Kopechne to die after saving himself, without even first going to the police. Yet Ted Kennedy died a liberal hero - this is the kind of person that the Left lionizes, in spite of his ugly actions.

This is not mere "whataboutery" as some are unethically claiming. It is entirely legitimate to ask about why Democrats are applying such selective double standards - because such double standards are untenable.

So we do indeed need to discuss why Democrats and the Left-leaning media are so silent on the allegations against Keith Ellison and others, even while they give maximum mileage to the allegations against Kavanaugh.
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To your bolded statement above...
People aren't stupid. They can see what's going on. The double standards always seem to rear their ugly heads.
To think that the Democrats and their complicit media have the stones to call out the right on their immorality.
The Democratic Party are a bunch of lying scoundrels. They've always been about rules for thee, but not for me.
 
Vern said:
No chill, Clinton was elected as an adulterer not a harasser or rapist. conservative howled with disgust now obediently sit quietly. You call Bill a rapist because a woman accused him of rape but ignore that trump was also accused of rape. Democrats aint perfect but the hypocrisy flows like a mighty river from the right.
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We will just disagree. I don't see much of a squirrels fart difference between Trump and Clinton. I didn't vote for either and wouldn't trust either man around the females in my life.

The my alleged rapist is better than your alleged rapist argument is hypocrisy in action.
 
Trump finds the assault "hard to imagine". This is because his familiarity with the subject is first hand.
 
Mycroft said:
Ellison is the second highest ranking person in the entire Democratic Party.

But hey...the Dems have "standards"...right?
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Dems do not control the media. Write to your news stations. Is Fox news giving it much attention?

He's deputy chair in the DNC, but what is his rank in Congress? ( hint: that's all that matters, because power flows from congress, not the DNC ). I don't know, I'll have to check.

By the way, Ellison is not the only politician accused of misconduct who is not getting much news.


https://www.rollcall.com/news/politics/heres-7-congressmen-accused-sexual-misconduct-since-metoo


And they all are getting some coverage hence showing up in google, so again, the media prioritizes given the WH news firehose.

But I don't see you whining about their lack of coverage, which includes republicans.
 
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OscarLevant said:
Dems do not control the media. Write to your news stations. Is Fox news giving it much attention?

He's deputy chair in the DNC, but what is his rank in Congress? ( hint: that's all that matters, because power flows from congress, not the DNC ). I don't know, I'll have to check.
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LOL!!

Congress is irrelevant when we are talking about the questionable standards of the Democratic Party. Your red herring is dead.
 
Skeptic Bob said:
Yes, it is a double standard. Dems and Reps hold each other to different standards than they hold themselves. It is a key aspect of partisanship. Our elected officials as a whole are scum and unworthy of our respect.
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'Tis true, but people keep buying into the "lesser of two evils" fallacy and won't work to break the cycle. So in the ends, R's and D's behave the same, and accuse the other side of doing that which they are doing. And around and around we go. We get these threads trying to call out the "hypocrisy of the left" without the understanding that this hypocrisy is prevalent on both sides. This ain't just a left thing. And it won't be fixed just by pointing fingers at one side and claiming they're the sole source of the problem.

The Republocrat Oligarchy is the problem, and so long as we feed it, it will continue to grow.
 
cpwill said:
Indeed. I would say that's about as odd as a woman claiming she's willing to testify that Kavanaugh tried to rape her, and then refusing when given a chance to do so.
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No, she wants protection. Some Trump supporters are threatening to kill her, and these people are likely racists:

Research Finds That Racism, Sexism, and Status Fears Drove Trump Voters

So they're likely some nasty customers.



It makes sense that she would want the FBI to investigate, and other witnesses to testify, in the hopes that this might dissuade these Trump supporters from trying to kill her.
 
Mycroft said:
LOL!!

Okay. You have devolved to whataboutism.

Moving on...
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This might be the most moronic wingnut post of the day, given that this entire thread is based upon "whataboutism". That's the ENTIRE premise behind bringing up Keith Ellison and Ted Kennedy in the complete absence of any rational defense of the way the GOP'ers are conducting the Kavanaugh hearings.

You people can't defend your own side on the merits or on intellect............and you can't defend your own side on morality or ethics........so you people ALWAYS resort to "whataboutism".

It's just what you do. Everyone here seems to understands that, except you.
 
ultmd said:
This might be the most moronic wingnut post of the day, given that this entire thread is based upon "whataboutism". That's the ENTIRE premise behind bringing up Keith Ellison and Ted Kennedy in the complete absence of any rational defense of the way the GOP'ers are conducting the Kavanaugh hearings.

You people can't defend your own side on the merits or on intellect............and you can't defend your own side on morality or ethics........so you people ALWAYS resort to "whataboutism".

It's just what you do. Everyone here seems to understands that, except you.
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Ummm...

Read the thread title. It's about Democrat Party double standards. You should limit yourself to the topic instead of devolving into whataboutism.
 
Mycroft said:
Ummm...

Read the thread title. It's about Democrat Party double standards. You should limit yourself to the topic instead of devolving into whataboutism.
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Weak retort. But I think we both understand that you don't have a rhetorical leg upon which to stand, don't we?

Read the OP. It's ENTIRELY about "what about Ellison?".........and "What about Kennedy?"

You, and the other righties who whined about "whataboutism" in this thread......all got caught up in the hypocrisy that defines almost all that you believe and support.

If it seems like I'm mocking you all........I am. And it's so easy to do, given some of the competition. :lamo
 
They didn't impeach him for the blow job, but for lying about it.
But the original point still stands ...

And in the case of Kavanaugh, he will be rejected for lying about his little escapade.

Kavanaugh vs Lewinski.webp
 
Chillfolks said:
We will just disagree. I don't see much of a squirrels fart difference between Trump and Clinton. I didn't vote for either and wouldn't trust either man around the females in my life.
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You again miss the point. No shock there. Clinton was "only" an adulterer when he ran for president. And conservatives howled from their high horses. Now you sit quietly with Trump, an adulterer and admitted sexual harasser. Democrats have no problem with adultery. Conservatives had a massive problem with it until they obediently didn't. that's part of hypocrisy that flows like a mighty river from the right I was discussing.

The my alleged rapist is better than your alleged rapist argument is hypocrisy in action.
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yea, that's just a dishonest "misparaphrasing" of my point because you have a dishonest agenda to push the "both sides do it" narrative.
 
JustHanging said:
No, she wants protection.
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Interesting claim. So far, the only demands I've seen involve FBI investigations into... Well, she won't say, since that would require that she give sworn testimony.

Can you provide a link to her asking for security, and the committee refusing to allow the Capital Police to provide it, or is this a justification you just decided to use because you wanted to make her refusal to testify sound defensible?


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cpwill said:
Interesting claim. So far, the only demands I've seen involve FBI investigations into... Well, she won't say, since that would require that she give sworn testimony.

Can you provide a link to her asking for security, and the committee refusing to allow the Capital Police to provide it, or is this a justification you just decided to use because you wanted to make her refusal to testify sound defensible?


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She, or her lawyer, has asked for an FBI investigation, and other people with knowledge be allowed to testify as well. This additional information would hopefully make the Trump supporters who are threatening to kill her see reason, so she would be safer.

Hadn't you heard about the death threats?
 
If you were going to tell a high-stakes lie because you wanted to take somebody out, for whatever reason, would you beg the FBI to look into it?
 
Mycroft said:
LOL!!

Okay. You have devolved to whataboutism.

Moving on...
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No, it's a question of a blacker kettle calling the pot black


But, that metaphor will not be understood by you.
 
sanman said:
One of the reasons you may not have known about it, is because the biased media haven't been talking about the allegations against Keith Ellison - and don't want to talk about them.

This is why the media need to stop their double standards, because it means we can't trust them, when they're just a bunch of biased partisan activists.
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This is why Trump has called the mainstream media "enemies of the people" - their refusal to "report" the news, only the portions that will lead your to the conclusion they want you to believe!
 
Xelor said:
If you were going to tell a high-stakes lie because you wanted to take somebody out, for whatever reason, would you beg the FBI to look into it?
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Knowing the FBI would never investigate such a vague and unsubstantiated claim that is out of their jurisdiction - yep!
 
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