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DOJ: FISA Warrant Review Showed Probable Cause

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NEW: The Dept. of Justice says they’ve completed their review of 29 FISA warrants that were flagged by the IG for being out of compliance and have found only 2 material errors and found that all of the applications contained sufficient basis for probable cause, a statement says.

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Statement of Assistant Attorney General for National Security John C. Demers on the Public Release of the Department’s Findings with Respect to the 29 FISA Applications that Were the Subject of the March 2020 OIG Preliminary Report | OPA | Department of Justice

Well, there goes the "witch hunt" defense.
 
Two threads in unison. The Rachael Maddow show must be on.
 

Nope- that is part of the Deep State, election in Nov stolen.

Thing is Trump will continue to have a slavishly loyal Republican base while the party tries to look at recovering from Trump, Hogan comes to mind.
 
Wait.....so Barr isn't in league with Trump now?
Does being in league with Trump mean that someone tells only lies? Ones which favor Trump?

If not, can you explain the significance of your question?
 
Does being in league with Trump mean that someone tells only lies? Ones which favor Trump?

If not, can you explain the significance of your question?

Nobody lies more than the main stream media. Unless, it's the democrat politicians.
 
Does being in league with Trump mean that someone tells only lies? Ones which favor Trump?

If not, can you explain the significance of your question?

Well since Barr's appointment, the left has been screaming bloody murder that all he does is Trump's bidding.....everywhere you turn, Barr is a traitor, Barr is incompetent, OMG Barr did this etc....

So NOW you guys agree with Barr because.....why? After 2 years or however long it's been of you guys screaming he is a liar, why is he being believed NOW ?
 
Well since Barr's appointment, the left has been screaming bloody murder that all he does is Trump's bidding.....everywhere you turn, Barr is a traitor, Barr is incompetent, OMG Barr did this etc....
So NOW you guys agree with Barr because.....why? After 2 years or however long it's been of you guys screaming he is a liar, why is he being believed NOW ?

If being in league with Trump means that someone tells only lies — ones which favor Trump — then you have an excellent point.

If someone "in league with Trump" can say true things and false things,
then we should rule out the theory that people like the true things Barr says
before we investigate the more convoluted theories.

:shrug:


fwiw,
Barr didn't write this report, did he?
 
If being in league with Trump means that someone tells only lies — ones which favor Trump — then you have an excellent point.

If someone "in league with Trump" can say true things and false things,
then we should rule out the theory that people like the true things Barr says
before we investigate the more convoluted theories.

:shrug:


fwiw,
Barr didn't write this report, did he?

Don't think so, but the DOJ is under his purview, so accordingly everything that is done, is done through him, agreed? Or is it, if it's against Trump, Barr had nothing to do with it, if it's for Trump, it's all Barr's fault?
 

It would seem that a general finding that FISA warrant requests have been basically sound, would simply highlight the specific problems with the warrant on Page investigating his role in the alleged conspiracy between Trump and Russia.
 
It would seem that a general finding that FISA warrant requests have been basically sound, would simply highlight the specific problems with the warrant on Page investigating his role in the alleged conspiracy between Trump and Russia.

Uh, no.
 
Don't think so, but the DOJ is under his purview, so accordingly everything that is done, is done through him, agreed? Or is it, if it's against Trump, Barr had nothing to do with it, if it's for Trump, it's all Barr's fault?

You're just flinging logical fallacies to see if one sticks?

Maybe, your attempt to simplify everything into a false dilemma
is inherently flawed?


could that be possible?
 
It would seem that a general finding that FISA warrant requests have been basically sound, would simply highlight the specific problems with the warrant on Page investigating his role in the alleged conspiracy between Trump and Russia.

the finding highlights problems?

The finding that the warrants were sound highlights that there were problems with the warrants?


Is this some Trumpco logic?


Or have you just not explained yourself very well?
 
You're just flinging logical fallacies to see if one sticks?

Maybe, your attempt to simplify everything into a false dilemma
is inherently flawed?


could that be possible?

You should probably be paying attention to the leftist talking points then....I'm only "flinging" what they say.....back at them.....because...words mattter...right?
 
You should probably be paying attention to the leftist talking points then....I'm only "flinging" what they say.....back at them.....because...words mattter...right?

You're creating a strawman by reducing w/e you heard into a false dilemma


I guess you don't realize you're doing that?


now you know
:shrug:
 

1. Since this audit is in response to an order from the FISA court, it'll be up to that court to decide, based on this audit, exactly what this information means.

2. The court order explicitly is not concerned with whether any application contains "sufficient basis for probable cause", that judgement by the DOJIG is irrelevant. In fact, it is ALWAYS up to the FISA court to decide if there is sufficient basis for probably cause...not the FBI or the DOJ.

3. Does any of this have anything to do with the Carter Page FISA warrant application? Does any of this have anything to do with Durham's investigations? I think not.
 

Wompity-womp.






And what is the Trumpist reaction?

Two threads in unison. The Rachael Maddow show must be on.
,
Wait.....so Barr isn't in league with Trump now?
,
Well since Barr's appointment, the left has been screaming bloody murder that all he does is Trump's bidding.....everywhere you turn, Barr is a traitor, Barr is incompetent, OMG Barr did this etc....
,
So NOW you guys agree with Barr because.....why? After 2 years or however long it's been of you guys screaming he is a liar, why is he being believed NOW ?
&
Nobody lies more than the main stream media. Unless, it's the democrat politicians.

Another Trumpist lie blown up. Quick! Deflect! Deflect! Deflect!

Amazing. Another lie of a talking point goes up in flames, and they try to weaponize their failure.




It would seem that a general finding that FISA warrant requests have been basically sound, would simply highlight the specific problems with the warrant on Page investigating his role in the alleged conspiracy between Trump and Russia.

Or worse, to suggest that the fact that they were dead wrong about the Page warrant shows that they were right to fuss about the Page warrant.

Derp factor: 10.5/10
 
the finding highlights problems?

The finding that the warrants were sound highlights that there were problems with the warrants?


Is this some Trumpco logic?


Or have you just not explained yourself very well?

We already know there were problems with the FISA warrant on Page. That had been established by Horowitz and Yates yesterday agreed.
That the OIG report concluded that FISA warrants in general seem sound only highlights the problem of the Page warrant.
 
We already know there were problems with the FISA warrant on Page. That had been established by Horowitz and Yates yesterday agreed.
That the OIG report concluded that FISA warrants in general seem sound only highlights the problem of the Page warrant.

No, it highlights something else entirely being unsound. :roll:
 
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