Does anyone not "get",.... Fox News

[Bullseye]

And that my friends is half of the mind of a conservative. If it bugs liberals, I'm for it even if 'it' hurts me.

nope. Most stuff conservatives do that drive loonies even more loony is good for me.

 

[Individual]

When I see the words liberal and conservative used in conversation, I use the following definition of them:
liberal - wasteful
conservative - frugal
More politicians is NOT the answer to our growing problems. Those elected to represent us in Federal office should be required to spend a large portion of time communicating with their constituents, listening to their views and ultimately representing their views. House members should hold town hall meetings and Senate members should avail themselves to the State government for it's views on the impact Federal laws would have on the State government.

 

[OscarLevant]

I can, and have not a bit of problem with it.

Anyone can can, and anyone would be wrong.

Sorry.

 

[OscarLevant]

And ALL of the other networks are a propaganda outlet for Trump hatred.

Welcome to the current state of the Mainstream Media.

Instead of just changing the channels every time you go by Fox News...just turn your TV off.

Holy deep state, Batman!

Righties are really paranoid, these days.

 

[OscarLevant]

I'll give FOX News credit for having a few people who are honest about Trump.

Shepherd Smith
Chris Wallace
Neil Cavuto

But overall, it's clearly a propaganda machine. A news organization shouldn't be tied in this way to the government.

They are mostly day time hosts.


Straight shooters on the day, when no one is watching, and loudmouth Tabloid hosts at night, when people are watching.

 

[OscarLevant]

A glimmer of light? From the 'news' (political propaganda) media?

I suppose after 2+ years of constant "Russia! Russia! Russia!" and "Collusion! Collusion! Collusion!" that they've stopped this nonsense is a light of sorts.

However, now that they've now pivoted to "Obstruction! Obstruction! Obstruction!" or "Conspiracy! Conspiracy! Conspiracy!" with no more facts to support these accusation than before, shows that it's still very dark; that they are still in darkness, groping around, and have not acknowledged their media malpractice, their propagandizing or even a modicum of introspection.

Just how long is the 'news' (political propaganda) media going to continue this? This self destructiveness? Their credibility is already in the toilet, how much lower can they denigrate themselves? I guess we'll see.

Everyone needs to calm the **** down and wait for the Mueller report. Over 300 pages, they say.

 

[OscarLevant]

cable news race
wed., march 27, 2019

foxnews hannity 4,303,000
foxnews tucker 3,485,000
foxnews ingraham 3,268,000
msnbc maddow 2,678,000
foxnews the five 2,640,000
foxnews baier 2,179,000
msnbc o'donnell 2,069,000
msnbc hayes 1,674,000
msnbc hardball 1,465,000
cnn cuomo 900,000
cnn cooper 865,000

It's a meaningless statistic. What is trying to be proved? that there are more people on the right than the left?


No, because you are not factoring in where the left tends to go, to network news where the news is much less biased.

Those who like biased TV, flock to Hannity, etc.

You add up all the right wing TV audience, compare to total left wing audience, no distinction made between cable and network,
then toss in all the readers of the left journals compared to the right, and the left wing audience size will cream the right. There are only so many old white people out there, which is probably why Hillary, dems most weakest candidate, got 3 million more votes than Trump.

 

[OscarLevant]

Dictator? Where? You want dictators elect more progs and social democrats - they want to dictate everything.

Evidence, please.

 

[OscarLevant]

When I see the words liberal and conservative used in conversation, I use the following definition of them:
liberal - wasteful
conservative - frugal

Do you know what the word, "simplistic", means?


There is no enemy to effective and just social policy than a simplistic mind.

 

[Bullseye]

Evidence, please.

AOC. QED.

 

[yankintx]

Bragging about ratings is ignorance and of course often used as a fallacy of logic to claim some sort of correctness in this measurement.

I turned off the cable news years ago. It gets in the way of forming ones own opinion. I dont need MSNBC to tell me Trump is a POS. After watching him since the 80's I already was aware of that fact. Its just sad the GOP has lowered their leadership standards to excuse this moron.

 

[Individual]

Do you know what the word, "simplistic", means?


There is no enemy to effective and just social policy than a simplistic mind.

So you would define effective and just social policy as being liberal, and ineffective and unjust social policy as being conservative, and NOT call that simplistic?

 

[Kobie]

Welcome to the TRUMPIRE!

You say that like it's a good thing.

 

[Kobie]

The fact it unhinges hard core leftweenies is more than worth it.

Ah yes, having a network go balls to the wall as essentially state media is awesome, as long as liberals don't like it.

You people have NO ideology other than "let's piss off liberals." What a twisted lot you are.

 

[Kobie]

The OP is an excellent example of it.

The OP was 100% correct. Are you going to sit there with a straight face and try and tell me that Fox doesn't carry water for Trump?

 

[Kobie]

Its not just fox, Sinclair Group is flooding local news channels with right wing propaganda. Having the people doing the news read right wing propaganda on air, and they bought up many more. But most rural folks don't care, they live in their little bubbles where everybody is fake and they all blow smoke up their ass, and they are clueless about the word outside of bumble****

My city's highest-rated local news channel is Sinclair, and they have to read their little propaganda pieces. The anchors have the same expression as the guys in the old POW videos talking about how well they're being treated by the Viet Cong.

 

[PoppyCock]

Damn, look at FOX caught fabricating news...oh wait, it's CNN again.

YouTube

 

[Individual]

The OP was 100% correct. Are you going to sit there with a straight face and try and tell me that Fox doesn't carry water for Trump?

Can't answer that as I live abroad and don't get any new from Fox, but it would appear that MSM carries water for Trump opponents and the Democrat party.
And it would appear that the entertainment industry also presents as much, or even more left leaning propaganda, as does the MSM.
Politics is never without bias, nor was the OP.

 

[PoppyCock]

Fox viewers are already brainwashed, so this is pointless. And you can tell by the flood of all the same idiotic one liners and dumb deflection, and the complete lack of any intelligent argument

Blame others for what you do.
~Saul Alinsky~ 101

 

[Thingfish]

I watch all three, figure out where the spin is, do a little research for the back story, and decide. 9 out of ten times The Clinton News Network and MSNBC are full of horse feathers.

 

[Mycroft]

Holy deep state, Batman!

Righties are really paranoid, these days.

???

I'm not paranoid. I'm just agreeing with the OP.

 

[bubbabgone]

It's a meaningless statistic. What is trying to be proved? that there are more people on the right than the left?


No, because you are not factoring in where the left tends to go, to network news where the news is much less biased.

Those who like biased TV, flock to Hannity, etc.

You add up all the right wing TV audience, compare to total left wing audience, no distinction made between cable and network,
then toss in all the readers of the left journals compared to the right, and the left wing audience size will cream the right. There are only so many old white people out there, which is probably why Hillary, dems most weakest candidate, got 3 million more votes than Trump.

Well that's ridiculous.
Those numbers show what the leftwing shows are getting after the Mueller report. Before the Mueller report Maddow was beating just about everyone. Now she barely beats The Five.
Meaning ... the left was drawn to where they liked the food they got served.

Just curious, you didn't specifically mention 2 major news publications and websites - the NYT & WAPO - would they be more attractive to the Left or the Right and why?

 

[noonereal]

I turned off the cable news years ago. It gets in the way of forming ones own opinion.

Great point!

What I find myself doing when a story breaks is isolating myself from editorial TV until I have formed an opinion. I am sure VERY few people take the time to do this.

The vast majority wait for their tribe leaders to speak to the issue than adapt that view and reasoning.,

Just another example of humans being a failed species.

 

[Bullseye]

Ah yes, having a network go balls to the wall as essentially state media is awesome, as long as liberals don't like it.

You people have NO ideology other than "let's piss off liberals." What a twisted lot you are.

Uh, no, I also mentioned the fact above that we support what they're doing; watching progerals sputter and spit and get all red faced is just gravy. :lol:

 

[OscarLevant]

Well that's ridiculous.
Those numbers show what the leftwing shows are getting after the Mueller report. Before the Mueller report Maddow was beating just about everyone. Now she barely beats The Five.
Meaning ... the left was drawn to where they liked the food they got served.

Just curious, you didn't specifically mention 2 major news publications and websites - the NYT & WAPO - would they be more attractive to the Left or the Right and why?

Comparing Maddow to Hannity proves nothing. What is the point being made? There is no significant fact you can draw, other than the naked fact of their numbers. What point could one make that the majority elected Hitler? That most people are easily conned? That's about it.

Just be mindful of the fact that there are more of us than there are of you. 2018 proved this, and 2016 proved it ( 3 million more votes for dems weakest candidate ever ). That is why I say "there are more of us". That is the only pertinent stat you can take to the bank.

Many in media read NYT and WaPo right ( and WSJ and Forbes ) right and left. why?

Because they are widely read, these are award winning publications, and their stories and op eds are often quoted. These are journals that it is every pundits duty to be abreast of.


Some of the lefts leading opinion leaders criticize WaPo and NYT; Noam Chomsky, for example. But they still read them, as they must.