1Perry
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Junkies would too if they could do it legally.
Syringes are not illegal.
Junkies would too if they could do it legally.
And everyone pays when you have a serious medical incident.
Syringe programs reduce the net cost to everyone else in the same way insurance reduces their payment for your medical procedures.
It's fine to be against the program on moral grounds, but in terms of economic, you're a fool to want to shut down a cost saving program.
I don't know about "free" but beer is as regulated as any other food product as far as I know. Some government inspector no doubt inspected the facility where your brew was bottled - assuming it's domestic beer. If it isn't domestic then it was inspected by a different government's food inspectors.What government funded pub can I stop at to get free beer?
Because you actually get to know someone over a long period of time before you stick a dick in them. Oh, the difficult concepts in life...
I addressed this already.
As I did here. This is a band aid.
Morally I care less. Junkies can shoot up all day for all I care. When I have to start paying for it, I'm either saying no or going to accept extreme measures to stop it.
What government funded pub can I stop at to get free beer?
Indeed. But it's a cheaper band aid then surgery.
So I take it you are for refusing medical care to the uninsured and letting them die in the streets then? Btw, you are paying right now for the uninsured. You seem not to have a problem with that. So why do you have a problem with this?
Yes they are. People get arrested for possessing a syringe every day.Syringes are not illegal.
I have no problem in not paying for self inflicted wounds. Dying in the streets would be on the list of options for junkies.
If only all society followed the strict moralistic parameters in whatever utopia fantasy of the past I have in my head!
Because if a leopard somehow wandered into your neighborhood your response would be to stay indoors at night when it's on the prowl? If it killed someone, well, they were stupid for going outside after dusk?If only people had a brain, you mean? :roll:
Because if a leopard somehow wandered into your neighborhood your response would be to stay indoors at night when it's on the prowl? If it killed someone, well, they were stupid for going outside after dusk?
If only people had a brain, you mean?
I'm sorry, but that's absurd. People who take drugs do it to themselves. A more apt analogy would be some crazy person repeatedly stabbing themselves and expecting everyone else to keep patching them up. I say we stop patching. If they want to stab themselves, let them. Let them reap the rewards for their idiotic actions. In fact, let them take themselves completely out of the gene pool.
People need to be responsible for their own actions. Stop coddling these idiots.
It's about costs to society.. you see, unless we enforce a gestapo state of somesort to round them all up and execute them, they're going to use the needles which may be dirty. They also mingle amongst the public and are difficult to distinguish from other people. Since your bizzarro moral framework cannot be forced upon all of society we have to accept that people are free to ****. This may bother you but some people are hot and find other people and **** quickly after meeting eachother and for hours at a time thereafter. Some of the contraception is only in pill form and people have the freedom to lie as to when the last time they were tested for stds. So by adding a little more freedom, the freedom of getting clean needles and education on not how to die or become diseased using heroin... we can all become much freer by not having to share the increased costs in healthcare.
I'm sorry, but that's absurd. People who take drugs do it to themselves. A more apt analogy would be some crazy person repeatedly stabbing themselves and expecting everyone else to keep patching them up. I say we stop patching. If they want to stab themselves, let them. Let them reap the rewards for their idiotic actions. In fact, let them take themselves completely out of the gene pool.
If you could somehow kill every needle-using junkie in America you would still have HIV. Should we kill everyone that has ever had unprotected sex while we're at it? OK, you've still got HIV running around. Who do we kill next? How many must die in your jihad before you admit that even people who have done nothing wrong are infected, too?No, actually, when you keep lowering the bar because you keep finding people who are unwilling or unable to step up and be responsible for themselves, you cost us all more money, not less. If these people would just kick the bucket, which certainly they would if they didn't get coddled, then they'd cost us a net sum of zero. That's why we have standards. You refuse to acknowledge standards.
That's where you fail.
No, actually, when you keep lowering the bar because you keep finding people who are unwilling or unable to step up and be responsible for themselves, you cost us all more money, not less. If these people would just kick the bucket, which certainly they would if they didn't get coddled, then they'd cost us a net sum of zero. That's why we have standards. You refuse to acknowledge standards.
That's where you fail.
Okay- just for grins- pretend that I have a friend who is an addict and a needle-user. As long as I'm not an addict, and am not using his needles, nor having sex with him, there is virtually no chance that I am going to contract aids from him/her.
But you cannot say for sure that if he was not your friend and HIV was endemic in society simply because government couldn't be bothered to control the problem, then yes, it gets to a point where it endangers everybody in society.
Vegetarians pay for meat inspections and I'm just as sure they have zero chance of infection from bad meat. In fact, if we all just cooked our food correctly then there wouldn't be any contamination and we could save a ton of money. Does that mean we should stop inspecting meat plants and processing facilities?I am endangered in no way nor is there any chance I will be.
I am endangered in no way nor is there any chance I will be.
In the United States, many people diagnosed with HIV are infected by dirty needles used to inject themselves with drugs.
Thanks to the War on Drugs, one of the biggest demographics in US prisons are convicted drug users, in a country that has stigmatized drug use and treats addicts as criminals, treating everything but the root cause itself.
Drug addiction is a very real thing - the prison system has thus far been ineffectual and so has every drugs policy pursued by every President since this problem began.
But now that components of the US government want to pull the plug on the syringe-exchange program, where does that leave us? Does encouraging the use of dirty needles dissuade addicts from taking the drug? What impact will this have on rates of infection across America?
Do you support the termination of the syringe-exchange program?
Congressional GOP Wants To End Federal Needle Exchange Program
Who told you that and why did you believe them?I wasn't endangered by Saddam... and statistically more likely to be killed by rabid weasels or drowning in a collapsed septic tank in my back yard than killed by Al-Qaeda.
I am not endangered
Who told you that and why did you believe them?