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[Ikari]

Your comments are consistantly anti trump and anti republican

They were also anti-Obama when he was in and anti-democrat. I call them the Republocrats for a reason

Which is the partisanship that I expect from a leftwinger

Rather it's just that observation and fair evaluation just aren't your thing.

The fact that you do not register as a democrat does not change the reality of who you are

Of course not, political party affiliation wouldn't change my ideology at all. I support the LP for it currently best holds to my ideology. I speak out against the status quo and the establishment because they do not. Oh, and what was it that I said before?

But a partisan wouldn't quite grasp that.

Thanks for demonstrating that. Man, is your goal on this site just to prove everything I say correct? Doing a bang up job.

lol

 

[Mac77]

They were also anti-Obama when he was in and anti-democrat. I call them the Republocrats for a reason



Rather it's just that observation and fair evaluation just aren't your thing.



Of course not, political party affiliation wouldn't change my ideology at all. I support the LP for it currently best holds to my ideology. I speak out against the status quo and the establishment because they do not. Oh, and what was it that I said before?



Thanks for demonstrating that. Man, is your goal on this site just to prove everything I say correct? Doing a bang up job.

lol

Thats typical for fence sitters

What you care about most is attacking "partisans" while never being held responsible for anything yourself

You vote for some loser in every election and then blame the party in power for not being perfect

But being a lefty fence sitter I suspect you were far easier on obama than you are on trump

Thats not non partisanship

Its kneejerk denial of reality

 

[Ikari]

Thats typical for fence sitters

What you care about most is attacking "partisans" while never being for anything

You vote for some loser in every election and then blame the party in power for not being perfect

But being a lefty fence sitter I suspect you were far easier on obama than you are on trump

That not non partisanship

Its kneejerk denial of reality

lol

Partisans, are funny. I have an ideology and I follow it, I support those who best support that. It's the only way to keep the Republic.

But a partisan wouldn't understand.

Let's see what other kneejerk reactionary attack you have in response.

lol

 

[Mac77]

lol

Partisans, are funny. I have an ideology and I follow it, I support those who best support that. It's the only way to keep the Republic.

But a partisan wouldn't understand.

Let's see what other kneejerk reactionary attack you have in response.

lol

Your ideology at the moment consists of kneejerk anti trumpism

 

[Ikari]

Your ideology at the moment consists of kneejerk anti trumpism

There's nothing kneejerk about it. Trump is thus far proving to be a horrible President, ineffective and divisive, threating our international relationships and the security of the Republic.

I know, I'm not holding water for your guy and that's got you all upset. And you're only recourse is to go on the attack, because that's what partisans do. They cannot engage in the debate, they take the low road of kneejerk, emotionalized attack.

But my critique of Trump isn't kneejerk, it's based off of his god awful performance. But that's something a partisan couldn't understand.

 

[Mac77]

There's nothing kneejerk about it. Trump is thus far proving to be a horrible President, ineffective and divisive, threating our international relationships and the security of the Republic.

I know, I'm not holding water for your guy and that's got you all upset. And you're only recourse is to go on the attack, because that's what partisans do. They cannot engage in the debate, they take the low road of kneejerk, emotionalized attack.

But my critique of Trump isn't kneejerk, it's based off of his god awful performance. But that's something a partisan couldn't understand.

You are predisposed to call him a horrible president no matter what he does.

Which is your non partisan way of supporting the lefty democrats

 

[Mac77]

You are predisposed to call him a horrible president no matter what he does.

Which is your non partisan way of supporting the lefty democrats

For instance, do you have any objection to the CIA spying on republicans and then furnishing the transcripts to the white house?

 

[Kurmugeon]

That video is funny as hell. If the GOP is smart, they will run it 50 times a day on every major media outlet in America during the next election cycle.

As a person who was a Blue Dog, Conservative Democrat for over a Decade, I find the video, offensive, disgusting, disturbing, and ludicrous!

I hope you are right, and the GOP does play it over and over and over during the next election, and it is effective at causing the Democrats to lose by huge margins, by driving away the Working White Vote!

But! We need to picking from the better of two or more GOOD options!

Trump was NOT my first choice for GOP candidate!

Hillary was a non-starter, way too damn corrupt, Progressive, Anti-White-Male, in the hip pocket of the Saudi's and Extreme Far-Left.

I voted for Trump as the lesser of two evils. I still support Trump, and have hopes for his administration.

Beyond Trump, and his election cycle, we need good options again!

We need viable choices from both or all three major American Political Parties.

The Democrats have shown, since the election of Trump and their horrid behavior, plus their Tripling down on Race/Gender Identity politics, with the DNC chair selected, and making the Muslim Radical and Racist Keith Ellison their 2nd in command... that the Democratic Party is a goner... let IT DIE!

Let the Democrats go the way of the Whiggs, they are fatally corrupted, Racist, Sexist, and bought out by George Soros and Foreign Muslim Bribes.

But! We will need new political parties... and soon!

-

 

[Trippy Trekker]

They punched each other at the same time. They were all there to brawl. She wasn't ready and I don't feel sorry for her. Especially as it was her that specifically went out to attack their event, not the other way around.

Duly noted you avoided posting a video link. I scratch my head wondering if you seek wiggle room to twist the narrative until someone else provides credible evidence to the contrary. You partisan without shame or respect for the truth.

▶ 1:29
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JipJ3IINQdM

 

[Fishking]

Duly noted you avoided posting a video link. I scratch my head wondering if you seek wiggle room to twist the narrative until someone else provides credible evidence to the contrary. You partisan without shame or respect for the truth.

▶ 1:29
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JipJ3IINQdM

Why did you post a video, proving me correct, as if that helps your argument?

 

[Trippy Trekker]

Why did you post a video, proving me correct, as if that helps your argument?

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Touche! Point proved. I bow my head at your wit and humor.

Look at her eyes. She got lucky with that awesome blind PUNCH!

 

[Kurmugeon]

They punched each other at the same time. They were all there to brawl. She wasn't ready and I don't feel sorry for her. Especially as it was her that specifically went out to attack their event, not the other way around.

At a Riot and Brawl, radical people hit each other... This is news?

This is relavent to picking a reasonable candidate to vote for?

I'm far, far more interested in finding a political party which does not support the concept of Officially Sanctioned, Racial Pandering, and Racial Differential Treatment by any political party, Government branch or agency or the Governments Contracted Companies!

Anti-White or Anti-Male Discrimination... is just more Discrimination!

Let the brawlers brawl, I don't CARE!

Let's focus on sound, reasoned, non-Race Based, JUST policies!

-

 

[Fishking]

Touche! Point proved. I bow my head at your wit and humor.

Look at her eyes. She got lucky with that awesome blind PUNCH!

?...she just didn't match up which, again, just means she went to a brawl and wasn't ready. I'm not saying she had a chance but she went to dance and found a partner.

 

[Trippy Trekker]

?...she just didn't match up which, again, just means she went to a brawl and wasn't ready. I'm not saying she had a chance but she went to dance and found a partner.

Like Trump, you consistently display opportunistic disregard for sincerity and honestly.

Unlike Trump, you have a very endearing and great sense of humor. For that, you earned a "Like".

 

[Fishking]

Like Trump, you consistently display opportunistic disregard for sincerity and honestly.

Unlike Trump, you have a very endearing and great sense of humor. For that, you earned a "Like".

What am I saying that's dishonest. I'll enumerate it to make it easy where you think my statements are false.

1. There was a pro-Trump event that was taking place.

2. There was a protest event, with antifa participating, that specifically went to that event to have a confrontation.

3. She was part of that group.

4. Melee ensued.

5. She was not equal to the task.

Now, do I think that guys should really be knocking out women? Not really. However, she went out of her way to participate and in a mob women are a threat along with everyone else. She doesn't go to throw down with these people, she doesn't get punched in the face. That's just reality.

 

[Rexedgar]

I read almost all 12 pages of this thread, now I need a good stiff bourbon! As Rodney King so famously said, "Can't we all just get along?"

 

[Trippy Trekker]

What am I saying that's dishonest. I'll enumerate it to make it easy where you think my statements are false.

1. There was a pro-Trump event that was taking place.

2. There was a protest event, with antifa participating, that specifically went to that event to have a confrontation.

3. She was part of that group.

4. Melee ensued.

5. She was not equal to the task.

Now, do I think that guys should really be knocking out women? Not really. However, she went out of her way to participate and in a mob women are a threat along with everyone else. She doesn't go to throw down with these people, she doesn't get punched in the face. That's just reality.

Your dishonesty includes (but not limited to):
Omissions - not mentioning the political climate that has existed in and around Berkeley for decades. Not mentioning the obvious intent of many of the Pro-Trump movement and Antifa to dress for, equip themselves for and anticipate a melee. Not acknowledging LE intends on arresting Damigo, not the young woman.
Manipulation - portraying the young woman as if she struck even a single blow. Portraying Liberals/progressives as the instigators, when in reality you have hundreds of teenagers and young adults craving excitement, drama, chaos, and insanity without a PowerBall Lottery single ticket chance of bettering society.

Let us acknowledge the wonderful zest and effect Donald Trump's election continues to have on the World Political Stage!

 

[Fishking]

Your dishonesty includes (but not limited to):

So you're not going to address my actual points. I'll be benevolent and directly address yours, though.

Omissions - not mentioning the political climate that has existed in and around Berkeley for decades.

Irrelevant. People don't get to monopolize an area and people's activity, just because they have the majority. Berkeley used to be a place where free speech reigned.

Not mentioning the obvious intent of many of the Pro-Trump movement and Antifa to dress for, equip themselves for and anticipate a melee.

Well, the dude was wearing a button up collared dress shirt and had some kind of bag on his shoulder. I'm not sure what is so threatening about that. That aside, if you know you're going to be attacked it's not a bad idea to make sure you can defend yourself. Defending yourself =/= the assaulting group.

Not acknowledging LE intends on arresting Damigo, not the young woman.

Of course. Female privilege rules in a situation like this.

Manipulation - portraying the young woman as if she struck even a single blow.

She did. She punched him in the throat. I even provided you evidence and your own video showed it as well.

Portraying Liberals/progressives as the instigators, when in reality you have hundreds of teenagers and young adults craving excitement, drama, chaos, and insanity without a PowerBall Lottery single ticket chance of bettering society.

They are the instigators. They went to another event to specifically attack them. You act like people can't be held accountable for their own actions. That's silly.

Let us acknowledge the wonderful zest and effect Donald Trump's election continues to have on the World Political Stage!

Trump's presidency is irrelevant to the growing violence being used as a political tool by the left. I didn't get to go out an riot, vandalize, and assault people because Obama was President.

So, in summary, everything I stated was are facts, and therefor you didn't address them. I even went to the effort to enumerated them to make it easy and that effort wasn't appreciated and now my feelings are hurt.

 

[Kurmugeon]

What am I saying that's dishonest. I'll enumerate it to make it easy where you think my statements are false.

1. There was a pro-Trump event that was taking place.

2. There was a protest event, with antifa participating, that specifically went to that event to have a confrontation.

3. She was part of that group.

4. Melee ensued.

5. She was not equal to the task.

Now, do I think that guys should really be knocking out women? Not really. However, she went out of her way to participate and in a mob women are a threat along with everyone else. She doesn't go to throw down with these people, she doesn't get punched in the face. That's just reality.

The Crap with Antifa will get allot worse before it gets better:

ANTIFA Leftist Group Is Selling Concealed Knives On Their Website For Slicing Conservatives




They WANT violence and death! They go to these events expecting and preparing for it.

There is a reason that Far-Leftie are often referred to as Back-Bench Bomb Throwers, even in cartoons:




The Radical Far-left has a long history of resorting to violence:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_of_the_deed

 

[katzgar]

We will see how far the left is willing to go to stop trump.

He is president with a lot of power at his disposal.

Libs may have to start a shooting war to get him out of office

I see a civics 101 class is in order. Congress declares war and democrats lack the votes in both houses. its in the constitution...go ahead and google it.

 

[Trippy Trekker]

So you're not going to address my actual points. I'll be benevolent and directly address yours, though.



Irrelevant. People don't get to monopolize an area and people's activity, just because they have the majority. Berkeley used to be a place where free speech reigned.



Well, the dude was wearing a button up collared dress shirt and had some kind of bag on his shoulder. I'm not sure what is so threatening about that. That aside, if you know you're going to be attacked it's not a bad idea to make sure you can defend yourself. Defending yourself =/= the assaulting group.



Of course. Female privilege rules in a situation like this.



She did. She punched him in the throat. I even provided you evidence and your own video showed it as well.



They are the instigators. They went to another event to specifically attack them. You act like people can't be held accountable for their own actions. That's silly.



Trump's presidency is irrelevant to the growing violence being used as a political tool by the left. I didn't get to go out an riot, vandalize, and assault people because Obama was President.

So, in summary, everything I stated was are facts, and therefor you didn't address them. I even went to the effort to enumerated them to make it easy and that effort wasn't appreciated and now my feelings are hurt.

But for your good humor, I would remove you from my debate options. Your notion of irrelevance relates directly to intellectual capacity. You have shown your true colors often enough to easily predict your responses.

Ping me when you show up at a protest in support of exercising one or more of your rights. I can picture you and a band of two dozen fair complexioned associates rigorously exercising your Right to Free Speech in Central Harlem.... where your humor might provide you your best form of deflection and protection.

Peace to you and yours. Thank you for your prior service!

 

[Mac77]

I see a civics 101 class is in order. Congress declares war and democrats lack the votes in both houses. its in the constitution...go ahead and google it.

I meant a good old fashioned central American style street war.

Blood in the streets as leftists try to drive trump out office through violence

 

[katzgar]

I meant a good old fashioned central American style street war.

Blood in the streets as leftists try to drive trump out office through violence

you do have issues dont you

 

[Mac77]

you do have issues dont you

I see a lot of organized street violence on the left that could escalate into more violence as nerves on both sides become strained.

 

[Fishking]

But for your good humor, I would remove you from my debate options. Your notion of irrelevance relates directly to intellectual capacity. You have shown your true colors often enough to easily predict your responses.

Thanks. I don't take this super seriously, even when I seriously debate. It's just an exchange of ideas. That aside, you think that people holding a pro-Trump rally is justified being physically attacked?

Ping me when you show up at a protest in support of exercising one or more of your rights. I can picture you and a band of two dozen fair complexioned associates rigorously exercising your Right to Free Speech in Central Harlem.... where your humor might provide you your best form of deflection and protection.

I don't do protests and actually am restricted from such things for a few more years still. Even if I wasn't, I probably wouldn't. I can say one thing, though. If I did ever take it up it wouldn't take the form of specifically targeting an event of an opposing ideology for violence. That's not right.

Peace to you and yours. Thank you for your prior service!

Have a good day.