you rely on man made dogma rather than an understanding of the teachings of Jesus.
The
entire Bible was written by men. Rejecting some parts of it on that basis, but not others, makes literally no sense whatsoever.
Adultery in the OT did not apply the same to men as to women.
Prove it. Prove that this was the norm in Jesus' society, or in early Christian society.
Hell! Pre-marital sex isn't even really acceptable in more "traditional" parts of the world even today. Teen couples have actually been stoned to death over it in the Middle East and India.
Please tell me that you can come up with something better.
It clearly establishes that God views "personhood" as not beginning at birth.
Putting a 20th century spin on some vague ancient passage is sketchy on a good day.
As I have already established, Jewish law and Christian moral codes have prohibited abortion and contraception since the 1st Century AD at the very least.
Who is trying to put a "20th century spin" on things again?
God actually commands abortion for women who have are suspected of getting pregnant by a man other than their husband.
Absolutely false.
God did not seem that concerned fetuses (or the lives of anyone who was not an Israelite and or who did not worship him)
Those were lives taken in war, in the Old Testament. Not even remotely the same thing.
Pauline Christians took over the Church after the temple was destroyed and the Church of Jerusalem/Judeo Christians (founded by the disciples and led by James) disappeared from the pages of history.
Nonsense. "Pauline Christianity"
is Christianity. You're basically trying to reinvent history out of whole cloth here, because you dislike the actual record.
Paul had a bunch of strange ideas (some which contradicted Jesus)
Only based off of your own, "20th Century," interpretation of Christ's words. I'm sorry, but that interpretation is not only factually unfounded, but blatantly clashes with the interpretations embraced by the people who actually
lived with Christ himself.
Paul never knew Jesus... - no close or significant contact with the disciples.
Paul knew and worked with Peter, and several of the other Apostles. They never said anything against him, or his teachings.
Catholic priests had wives until the 12th century
This is just a flat-out misrepresentation. The earliest mention of Clerical celibacy in the Church goes back to the 4th Century.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clerical_celibacy_(Catholic_Church)
Council of Elvira (c. 305)
(Canon 33): It is decided that marriage be altogether prohibited to bishops, priests, and deacons, or to all clerics placed in the ministry, and that they keep away from their wives and not beget children; whoever does this, shall be deprived of the honor of the clerical office.
Council of Carthage (390)
(Canon 3): It is fitting that the holy bishops and priests of God as well as the Levites, i.e. those who are in the service of the divine sacraments, observe perfect continence, so that they may obtain in all simplicity what they are asking from God; what the Apostles taught and what antiquity itself observed, let us also endeavour to keep… It pleases us all that bishop, priest and deacon, guardians of purity, abstain from conjugal intercourse with their wives, so that those who serve at the altar may keep a perfect chastity.
Married men were allowed to become clergy at that point, but they were traditionally expected to practice celibacy from that point onwards. Unmarried clerics, meanwhile, were expected to remain unmarried.
Regardless - The Catholic Church after Constantine was evil...
About as anti-Jesus/anti-Crist of an organization as one can imagine ...
I think it's fairly clear that you have no idea what you're talking about. This is no different.
No, that's Paulian teaching, and Augustine, and a whole line of assholes who weren't Jesus
Again, you people realize how little sense this whole position makes, right? :roll:
Literally
everything we know about Christ has been passed down to us through the filter of people like St. Paul and St. Augustine. If you're not going to accept them, you might as well toss out everything else as well.
No its not all people have to go off of. They have those words and many others, they have scientific information, and their own hearts. Only a fool follows the written words of others without caring what their heart tells them.
Are you trying to worship God, or "science" and your own "heart?" :roll: