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DNC Needs To Replace Biden Now!

Fred C Dobbs II said:
Not surprising that this movement, or policy, began in the 70's. That's when the Democrats were being most influenced by Communism in the USSR, Chairman Mao and Fidel Castro.
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Lolwut? Considering the bouts of deregulation we have experienced for decades started in the 70s that makes no sense.
 
jotathought said:
So you're okay that 4 super delegates hold more power than the entire voting population of a state like Wyoming? Or 56 hold more power than California?
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Asked and answered. :)
 
PIPEWRENCH said:
They had their chance with impeachment. You still don't get it. In order to control the people we must not be allowed to unite. The rich and powerful must keep us equally divided. If one party was any better than the other and actually served the people it would have a clear majority of support. The other party would be gone. Not happening because the people who own our government know that We the People can never be allowed to unite. That is why they have used their media to keep us pitted against each other for longer than I have been alive.
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How is it that you can say so much while saying so little? :lol:
 
Phys251 said:
Asked and answered. :)
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I'm assuming this is referencing the democratic party voting in back rooms to select their candidate and it being constitutionally permitted? Regardless, I've not done the research on this option, but it sounds more like the voting electorate should have no say into what candidate the People desire.
 
jotathought said:
I'm assuming this is referencing the democratic party voting in back rooms to select their candidate and it being constitutionally permitted? Regardless, I've not done the research on this option, but it sounds more like the voting electorate should have no say into what candidate the People desire.
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It's obvious that you're not interested in a rational debate. But that's no surprise, given that you are a conservative and have a vested interest in a ****ed up convention.
Have a good night, and stay safe. :2wave:
 
Phys251 said:
It's obvious that you're not interested in a rational debate. But that's no surprise, given that you are a conservative and have a vested interest in a ****ed up convention.
Have a good night, and stay safe. :2wave:
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I appreciate that .. and it's a shame that the Democratic party has on overwhelming interest in what candidate gets selected via super delegates that completely negates the voting rights of its constituents. Have a great night indeed.
 
bomberfox said:
Deregulation of the airline industry, banking, antitrust, free trade. Its the washington consensus. I don't need propaganda tanks thanks!
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So it's your understanding that there are fewer regulations now than there were in the 1970's? Do you have any stats to support your contention?
 
Fred C Dobbs II said:
So it's your understanding that there are fewer regulations now than there were in the 1970's? Do you have any stats to support your contention?
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Its not even the amount of regulations that is the issue, deregulation of course hit multiple sectors, some more than others and yes most industries have seen less regulation since the 70s like i states thanks to Clinton and Carter as well.
 
bomberfox said:
Its not even the amount of regulations that is the issue, deregulation of course hit multiple sectors, some more than others and yes most industries have seen less regulation since the 70s like i states thanks to Clinton and Carter as well.
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So the argument you made earlier about there being more regulations now then in 1970 was totally wrong and now you're backing off.

Why did you not check the facts before you even made that post?
 
Fred C Dobbs II said:
So the argument you made earlier about there being more regulations now then in 1970 was totally wrong and now you're backing off.

Why did you not check the facts before you even made that post?
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There are less climate regulations than there were before, less regulations on asbestos and Rick Perry in charge for one, for two, no glass steagle and other banking regulations that gave the baby boomer generation a more stable banking environment etc. the premise still stands.
 
Casper said:
Oh, it can Always be worse, did you Invision a country that would actually elect the likes of the Donald? Four years ago I was saying no way, no one can be that stupid, but here we are.
Never underestimate stupid
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I'm talking about on the Democratic side.
 
Phys251 said:
You're seriously going to split hairs over the difference? :lamo

The more aggressive Sanders supporters, commonly referred to as Berniebros, want to burn it to the ground and replace it with God-knows-what. Maybe the new Sandinistas?
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Just because you listen to the most vocal radical people on the internet doesn't make them the majority. There were actually more Bernie supporters who voted for Hillary than Hillary supporters who voted for Obama.

That year, a YouGov survey showed 24% of respondents who identified as Clinton primary supporters ended up voting for Republican nominee John McCain that November. In 2016, the highest estimates showed 12% of Sanders primary supporters voting for Trump.



Lead by example and learn to take any criticism of Sanders not personally.

If you can.
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I have no problem with legitimate criticism of Sanders or anyone else I may support. He already gets a healthy dose of criticism from some of his progressive supporters (e.g. Jimmy Dore, David Pakman, etc). That is because they are not idolaters or party hacks.
 
yankintx said:
I too wish the DNC would nominate a younger woman or man. But I will vote for Biden as Trump is a disaster and out of his depth.
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Yup. Too many people taking my criticism as 'anyone but Biden!' when it is actually 'anyone but Trump!'
 
Geoist said:
Just because you listen to the most vocal radical people on the internet doesn't make them the majority. There were actually more Bernie supporters who voted for Hillary than Hillary supporters who voted for Obama.

That year, a YouGov survey showed 24% of respondents who identified as Clinton primary supporters ended up voting for Republican nominee John McCain that November. In 2016, the highest estimates showed 12% of Sanders primary supporters voting for Trump.
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Feel free to keep repeating that talking point that does not address my point. Sanders supporters are the loud minority of Democratic voters, and I use the word "Democratic" VERY loosely here.

Speaking of which, if Saint Bernard had dropped out as he should have, Wisconsinites wouldn't have to literally risk their lives to vote in today's primary. So much for his belief in universal healthcare. :doh

I have no problem with legitimate criticism of Sanders or anyone else I may support.
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Nice gaslight.

The truth is that Sanders supporters feel entitled to unleash loads of venom on the Democratic "establishment" and anyone who dares to support them, but the second we put forth the slightest critique of Saint Bernard, the attacks descend on us like bats out of hell. All-give-and-no-take. :thumbdown

He already gets a healthy dose of criticism from some of his progressive supporters (e.g. Jimmy Dore, David Pakman, etc). That is because they are not idolaters or party hacks.
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:lamo
 
Phys251 said:
Feel free to keep repeating that talking point that does not address my point. Sanders supporters are the loud minority of Democratic voters, and I use the word "Democratic" VERY loosely here.
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I never denied there is a vocal group of Bernie Supporters. I don't agree with everything they say, but they have a right to be upset considering how behind we are compared to literally every other developed country when it comes to healthcare coverage, excesses of capitalism, environment, etc. But your post is a great example how most party members are more concerned with hackery than they are the issues.

Speaking of which, if Saint Bernard had dropped out as he should have, Wisconsinites wouldn't have to literally risk their lives to vote in today's primary. So much for his belief in universal healthcare. :doh
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Bernie has a narrow path to victory, not an impossible one. So long as that is the case, there is no reason for him to drop out. His campaign is not responsible for the terrible Wisconsin Supreme Court decision.

Btw, Hillary's Campaign stuck it out to the end against Obama. I doubt you were criticizing her then.

Nice gaslight.

The truth is that Sanders supporters feel entitled to unleash loads of venom on the Democratic "establishment" and anyone who dares to support them, but the second we put forth the slightest critique of Saint Bernard, the attacks descend on us like bats out of hell. All-give-and-no-take. :thumbdown
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So saying "no one likes him" is 'slight critique?' Give me a break.
 
Phys251 said:
Speaking of which, if Saint Bernard had dropped out as he should have, Wisconsinites wouldn't have to literally risk their lives to vote in today's primary. So much for his belief in universal healthcare. :doh
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Your Dear Leader said it is safe to vote in Wisconsin sooooo...
 
Geoist said:
I never denied there is a vocal group of Bernie Supporters. I don't agree with everything they say, but they have a right to be upset considering how behind we are compared to literally every other developed country when it comes to healthcare coverage, excesses of capitalism, environment, etc. But your post is a great example how most party members are more concerned with hackery than they are the issues.
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And here comes your defensive reaction. A perfect example of what I just described. :)

You should get more introspective as to why Sanders is going to lose yet again. But introspection is something populists almost NEVER do. :shrug:

Bernie has a narrow path to victory, not an impossible one. So long as that is the case, there is no reason for him to drop out. His campaign is not responsible for the terrible Wisconsin Supreme Court decision.
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If he had dropped out, hundreds of thousands if not millions of Wisconsinites would not be literally risking their lives to vote for him today. Do you deny this fact too?

Btw, Hillary's Campaign stuck it out to the end against Obama. I doubt you were criticizing her then.
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1. We were not running against one of the most dangerous presidential candidates of all time.
2. There was not a pandemic going on in the middle of the primary.

Got any more stupid comparisons you want to fail at? :lol:

So saying "no one likes him" is 'slight critique?' Give me a break.
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Geoist said:
Your Dear Leader said it is safe to vote in Wisconsin sooooo...
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^ Yes, yes, keep up that defensiveness and keep making my point for me, again and again. It's what you Sanders supporters do every. Single. Time. :)

NONE of the other Democratic candidates' supporters did this the way y'all are. None.
 
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