Distributions of wealth in this country

[Fledermaus]

Nazi's made a hate list, Unions Jews and gypsies , yours is way way longer. Unions ,Muslims, women, gays, our government as it is, immigrants, everyone except old white fat guys, Scum bags promoted hate level and your almost extinct hate group is way further along then Hitler was at three years, Scum bag is way further along with the attack on the press as Hitler was in the same period of time. Scum bag and his grooming of his followers to except lies is way ahead of Hitlers in the same time period. Hitler is a rooky compared to scum bags ability to create a world that is a threat, that doesn't even exist, by the use of non stop endless lies. Scum Bag is better at being Hitler then even Hitler was. you need a history lesson, all dictators work the exact same way you and your ugly leader has and does.

All that hate...

 

[Fledermaus]

Bull**** that the difference between your hate group and real people, real people like the democratic 1%, they have no qualms about paying taxes, many have said that their taxes should be raised. , something the democrats know is just the price in living in a civilized society, in fact the level of a countries civilization is in direct relationship to the amount of their taxes.

Why doesn't Warren Buffet pay more taxes than his secretary?

 

[jbander]

The "right'" direction? Presumably you mean Left? Who hates the rich the most, the Right or the Left? But do enlighten us as to the changes in detail you would employ to accomplish what you are claiming to be the "right direction".

Why would I hate the rich, I think that the wealthy rich are in your group because yours is the stingy selfish me first, second and last type people. There is more democratic rich then from the right wing hate group they call a party. They are in my party because they believe the way that I do that it is our responsibility to take care of the needy, you can keep your bull**** that me and the churches should be doing that. Which anyone who has a brain realizes that that way wouldn't work. The right is just full of people who are only about one thing , themselves.

 

[Individual]

Why would I hate the rich, I think that the wealthy rich are in your group because yours is the stingy selfish me first, second and last type people. There is more democratic rich then from the right wing hate group they call a party. They are in my party because they believe the way that I do that it is our responsibility to take care of the needy, you can keep your bull**** that me and the churches should be doing that. Which anyone who has a brain realizes that that way wouldn't work. The right is just full of people who are only about one thing , themselves.

If your intent is to post baseless accusations, at least try to do so using proper English.

 

[Individual]

easy what ever it take for a person to feed his family(wife and two kids)' I don't have to figure that out , it's figured out monthly. It's the cost of living index.

Every working person has a wife and two children?
And the $ value for the current month is?

 

[marke]

Bull****, your not even worth reading.

Those who call communism great forget the 30 million disarmed Russians murdered by Stalin in the name of the 'glorious state.'

 

[phattonez]

nope the trickle down lie. Increase minimum wage to a living wage , this isn't rocket science. Better that then tax dollars needed to feed their family and keep a roof over their head, why should I have my taxes used to increase the bottom line of any company in this country.

Who here do you think is in favor of trickle down? The wealth effect is bogus.

 

[jbander]

Who here do you think is in favor of trickle down? The wealth effect is bogus.

Actually never thought you did, I asked you a question about what happened in 1981 and I meant the trickle down lie, that's all.

 

[jbander]

If your intent is to post baseless accusations, at least try to do so using proper English.

I know I'm always pushing the right buttons when someone reply's with my spelling and the way a conjugate a verb.

 

[jbander]

Every working person has a wife and two children?
And the $ value for the current month is?

it's called the cost of living index, how much hand holding do you need.

 

[jbander]

Those who call communism great forget the 30 million disarmed Russians murdered by Stalin in the name of the 'glorious state.'

You have zero clue what communism's is, it's something that doesn't even exist in this country. Every one of you people make your own definition of it. always 100% wrong

 

[Individual]

I know I'm always pushing the right buttons when someone reply's with my spelling and the way a conjugate a verb.

I don't mind spelling errors, just saying your words aren't making a lot of sense. But thanks for letting me and others know that you're not really trying to engage in a rational discussion.

 

[Individual]

it's called the cost of living index, how much hand holding do you need.

I didn't ask what it was called, only the dollar amount you feel it should be.
Should businesses have different pay scales for single, married, single with children, married with children employees?
IMO, if you lack the skills capable of finding a job which pays what you feel to be a living wage a second job is the best solution.

 

[jbander]

I didn't ask what it was called, only the dollar amount you feel it should be.
Should businesses have different pay scales for single, married, single with children, married with children employees?
IMO, if you lack the skills capable of finding a job which pays what you feel to be a living wage a second job is the best solution.

Since the right wing can't in any way get passed them selves ,if they are in a safe economical position whether by family handouts or skills , these people think that they deserve it all and if they became a person in need through sickness or accident ,they seem to be the ones grabbing at a free ride faster then any other group. I would suggest to everyone here that this is the case as far as individual is concerned . I've seen these people crash and move to the side they puke on now and you just have to chuckle. I guarantee they have no idea about how people who work for a low pay live , he knows nothing about people in need , he will say he does and he knows a guy to point at, to backup what he says but these people have no idea , they just can't get past themselves , . They are number 1 , 2 and 3. Screw everyone else.

 

[Individual]

Since the right wing can't in any way get passed them selves ,if they are in a safe economical position whether by family handouts or skills , these people think that they deserve it all and if they became a person in need through sickness or accident ,they seem to be the ones grabbing at a free ride faster then any other group. I would suggest to everyone here that this is the case as far as individual is concerned . I've seen these people crash and move to the side they puke on now and you just have to chuckle. I guarantee they have no idea about how people who work for a low pay live , he knows nothing about people in need , he will say he does and he knows a guy to point at, to backup what he says but these people have no idea , they just can't get past themselves , . They are number 1 , 2 and 3. Screw everyone else.

No need to become accusatorily offensive, I simply have asked you what the dollar value of a living wage should be in your opinion, and to state it as a dollar value in order for me to engage you in rational discussion.

 

[phattonez]

No need to become accusatorily offensive, I simply have asked you what the dollar value of a living wage should be in your opinion, and to state it as a dollar value in order for me to engage you in rational discussion.

A full time wage ought to be enough for a wife and a few children in a modest home. Why should people who are working full time be unable to have the necessities of life?

 

[jbander]

A full time wage ought to be enough for a wife and a few children in a modest home. Why should people who are working full time be unable to have the necessities of life?

Individual say it's their own fault and he isn't responsible for anyone and that the real problem in this country is everyone cheating with these programs, so his solution is to get rid of all of them and give it to the wealthy .

 

[jbander]

Wealth isn't "given", it's created and earned as a result of capitalism. Invent something people need or want, sell it for a fair price, leather, rinse, repeat. That's how you acquire wealth.

You seem to leave out the point of getting many thousands from daddy. Your leader says he is a self made man but it looks like he got more money from Daddy then he has now.

 

[jbander]

So, your for free enterprise, before you're against it?

Ya totally against your me first attitude and made up definition of Free enterprise

 

[Individual]

A full time wage ought to be enough for a wife and a few children in a modest home. Why should people who are working full time be unable to have the necessities of life?

Employers hire 'individuals' to perform a function for a predetermined wage based on the value of that function being performed to the employer.
An employees family size has nothing to do with the wage offered by the employer.
A 40 hour work week suffices as full time employment for jobs which can/do pay higher wages. Persons lacking any valued work skills might find an 80 or more hour work week necessary.
With inflation driving the costs of land, building materials and labour higher along with the application of building codes and property taxes many people may never be able to own a home in the future,

 

[Bullseye]

Ya totally against your me first attitude and made up definition of Free enterprise

What are you talking about? "Me first attitude"? Do you have any sensible comments?

 

[Bullseye]

You seem to leave out the point of getting many thousands from daddy. Your leader says he is a self made man but it looks like he got more money from Daddy then he has now.

You do understand not every conversation is about Trump, right?

 

[Mach]

Employers hire 'individuals' to perform a function for a predetermined wage based on the value of that function being performed to the employer. An employees family size has nothing to do with the wage offered by the employer.

The point is that middle class used to be able to purchase enough for a family...a family being something of critical importance to phattonez's view of national economic stability, happiness, prosperity (etc., correct if wrong obv. phattonez).
It has steadily declining, while higher income has been taking those gains.

But globally we also look out of sync:

What your argument doesn't seem to include, is how that value is determined, and what negotiation position an employee is in, vs employer.
Unions are one way power used to be added to balance out labor.
Laws do in some ways (min wage, overtime, health insurance, etc.).
Also, government policy, leadership, educational support, education quality, rural outreach, etc., etc. There are countless factors that contribute, and a near infinite number of ways this can be slowed or even reversed.

 

[Individual]

Individual say it's their own fault and he isn't responsible for anyone and that the real problem in this country is everyone cheating with these programs, so his solution is to get rid of all of them and give it to the wealthy .

Except for the fact that I've NOT said that at all.

 

[Individual]

The point is that middle class used to be able to purchase enough for a family...a family being something of critical importance to phattonez's view of national economic stability, happiness, prosperity (etc., correct if wrong obv. phattonez).
It has steadily declining, while higher income has been taking those gains.

But globally we also look out of sync:

What your argument doesn't seem to include, is how that value is determined, and what negotiation position an employee is in, vs employer.
Unions are one way power used to be added to balance out labor.
Laws do in some ways (min wage, overtime, health insurance, etc.).
Also, government policy, leadership, educational support, education quality, rural outreach, etc., etc. There are countless factors that contribute, and a near infinite number of ways this can be slowed or even reversed.

I recognize that, but I fail to see any suggestions being made of rational ways of making changes other than government redistribution of wealth which in my opinion simply increases governments control over the society as a whole which IMO only divides us greater from the middle, increasing the Public debt keeping is to appear sustainable as a result of inflation (devaluation of our currency).
Show me a plan which would result in the perpetual reduction of wealth of the wealthiest with the income of the lower 90% rising and you may get my support.