Distributions of wealth in this country

[danielpalos]

You are free to bop on down to the CA unemployment office (or visit their website?) and demand your just benefits. Yammering on this forum about how poor you are is not going to git-r-done.

I am doing it "the hard way" to "build character".

 

[jbander]

When you so often use CRAP in your argument and then sarcasm, considering both a form of discourse, you present a very unappealing thread. Try slimming and calming it down, if you really want to discuss a topic. If not, I saw your post, for what that is worth to you.
I think you have something to offer, but your objectionable presentation hides it from me.
Regards,
CP

Here's the problem, your supporting a group that put a hate candidate into office , which makes you party a hate party. I'm reacting in this comment with the chart to the fact that all you people seem to offer is lies or total distortion of the fact and it's my opinion at this point that your hate party wouldn't exist without those lies and distortions. You put the biggest threat to my country in the most powerful seat in the world. You handed it over to a mentally ill monster. I hate all the enemies of my country. So tell me I shouldn't.

 

[jbander]

Many opt to 'fight poverty' by working - it is neither Christian nor Capitalist to force charity. I am not complaining about the "less fortunate" (the ill or disabled?) - I am complaining about those too lazy to work and yet expecting others to help support their sloth. You are not poor - you are simply worried that your mother will not support you forever and seek a backup plan to remain able to live without having to work.

What a pile of crap, The number one message in the bible is our responsibility to take care of the needy, listed 300 times , so if you do what the number one thing in the Bible tells you to do, you take care of the needy and the only way you haters would do it if you can define who is needy and who isn't . And with the hate that drives you people no one is needy.

 

[danielpalos]

You are free to bop on down to the CA unemployment office (or visit their website?) and demand your just benefits. Yammering on this forum about how poor you are is not going to git-r-done.

Thanks for the suggestion. I found an email address, and sent a letter.

 

[rickc]

Just admit that you would rather be paid for not working than have to get/keep a job. The UI limit is to prevent folks from simply deciding that working is not worth the slight increase in their 'paycheck' that working provides. You now elect not to work for a net decrease in benefits of about $8/hour - many more would opt to ride the UI gravy train (instead of working) for a net decrease in benefits of $1/hour (or less). Simply because you are not willing to work does not mean that others would rather have their net pay reduced to financially reward you for making that personal decision.

unemployment benefits are $275 a week max in florida. that won't even buy beer and cigarettes.

 

[Rexedgar]

unemployment benefits are $275 a week max in florida. that won't even buy beer and cigarettes.

....might not keep Kavanaugh in beer for a week..................:lamo

 

[ttwtt78640]

unemployment benefits are $275 a week max in florida. that won't even buy beer and cigarettes.

That ($1,200/month) is more than my girlfriend gets in Social Security retirement.

 

[rickc]

That ($1,200/month) is more than my girlfriend gets in Social Security retirement.

she needs a raise!

but she has you for a sugar daddy!

 

[ttwtt78640]

she needs a raise!

but she has you for a sugar daddy!

Yep, I make a fine sugar daddy since my Social Security is $1,800/month. Combined we get $30K/year and are thus getting the retirement income equivalent of one full-time job at $15/hour. Of course, we must spend over 10% of that on Medicare premiums.

 

[rickc]

Yep, I make a fine sugar daddy since my Social Security is $1,800/month. Combined we get $30K/year and are thus getting the retirement income equivalent of one full-time job at $15/hour. Of course, we must spend over 10% of that on Medicare premiums.

you both need a raise. i am getting close. they say i will get $2600 a month. i own my own business and will continue working. Scares me to think of living on that kind of budget and don't want to dip into my savings to live. who knows how long i am going to live.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN0IC1DP20141023

 

[ttwtt78640]

you both need a raise. i am getting close. they say i will get $2600 a month. i own my own business and will continue working. Scares me to think of living on that kind of budget and don't want to dip into my savings to live. who knows how long i am going to live.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN0IC1DP20141023

The odds are that we may get such a 'raise' when her ex passes - that event would make her SS increase by about $1K/month by being able to claim surviving spouse benefits (a big reason why we don't marry). We also continue to run a (self-employed handyman) business which almost doubles our income yet most of that is in tax-free cash since few of our customers issue 1099s.

 

[bluesmoke]

Hmm... if capitalism died in 1981 then how are we (still?) the greatest, most powerful, richest country in the world?

“Hmm... if capitalism died in 1981 then how are we (still?) the greatest, most powerful, richest country in the world?”

Capitalism is the only social system that rewards merit regardless of one’s station in life. Productivity is the best and only effective measure of merit of American labor. However, since 1976, real wages have not risen in-step with rising productivity as it historically had before. So, capitalism stopped rewarding merit and instead redirected that money to please shareholders and reward management for the merit of successful growth and profit made on the backs of workers who did no longer got their fair share in the distribution of wealth. The recent tax plan is a perfect example of the artificial distribution of wealth to large corps and the rich whom did nothing to merit that “reward.” Hence, a merit-based reward for the typical worker is no longer afforded by the capitalistic system and missing that vital and inherent quality, capitalism no longer lives up to itself and is dead to the many who are no longer allowed to share in the wealth earned by merit.

BTW, are you a believer in MAGA? If so, how come you state the belief of being, still, “the greatest, most powerful, richest country in the world” to make your point?

 

[ttwtt78640]

“Hmm... if capitalism died in 1981 then how are we (still?) the greatest, most powerful, richest country in the world?”

Capitalism is the only social system that rewards merit regardless of one’s station in life. Productivity is the best and only effective measure of merit of American labor. However, since 1976, real wages have not risen in-step with rising productivity as it historically had before. So, capitalism stopped rewarding merit and instead redirected that money to please shareholders and reward management for the merit of successful growth and profit made on the backs of workers who did no longer got their fair share in the distribution of wealth. The recent tax plan is a perfect example of the artificial distribution of wealth to large corps and the rich whom did nothing to merit that “reward.” Hence, a merit-based reward for the typical worker is no longer afforded by the capitalistic system and missing that vital and inherent quality, capitalism no longer lives up to itself and is dead to the many who are no longer allowed to share in the wealth earned by merit.

BTW, are you a believer in MAGA? If so, how come you state the belief of being, still, “the greatest, most powerful, richest country in the world” to make your point?

The idea that productivity is the result of (more skilled/valuable?) labor is false in many (most?) cases. When an employer installs a computerized cash register and barcode scanner then the resulting increase in productivity does not make the cashier's labor worth more. It actually can have the opposite effect - a less skilled person, or even the customer, can then do that job. That computerized system can also keep a realtime inventory reducing the need for labor to determine what remains in stock or requires re-ordering.

 

[concernedpuma]

Just admit you enjoy being a hypocrite on the right wing, who doesn't care about the Law, but prefers to call Less Fortunate illegals, black.

Illegals and blacks? What in the world are you writing about? It has been my observation that only those who would ascribe a class of people as lesser, are those who drive class warfare. America is not about warfare, it is essentially about equality. Stop wasting cardboard and paint, and get on board and help!
Regards,
CP

 

[jbander]

Illegals and blacks? What in the world are you writing about? It has been my observation that only those who would ascribe a class of people as lesser, are those who drive class warfare. America is not about warfare, it is essentially about equality. Stop wasting cardboard and paint, and get on board and help!
Regards,
CP

This guy lives in a fake world designed by him to justify him and his opinions. Trust me, it's about Equality if he gets to define what equality is. Your party is based on looking at people as lesser. You can kid your self but people who can think know different . Should we look at your conservatives lesser list, Women, the poor , Muslims, Immigrants, Mexicans, teachers, government workers, veterans, the old , the needy, while your parties voice says he is sure there are good people in the KKK , the white supremacist and the Nazi party. Along with his grabbing the ***** of women he doesn't know, he says they like that kind of thing. You people are nothing but a noble group.Actually you are all sickening.

 

[concernedpuma]

This guy lives in a fake world designed by him to justify him and his opinions. Trust me, it's about Equality if he gets to define what equality is. Your party is based on looking at people as lesser. You can kid your self but people who can think know different . Should we look at your conservatives lesser list, Women, the poor , Muslims, Immigrants, Mexicans, teachers, government workers, veterans, the old , the needy, while your parties voice says he is sure there are good people in the KKK , the white supremacist and the Nazi party. Along with his grabbing the ***** of women he doesn't know, he says they like that kind of thing. You people are nothing but a noble group.Actually you are all sickening.

Geeez! For just a brief moment, I thought you were serious. A post like that is generally followed by LOL. Did you just forget that ?
Regards,
CP

 

[danielpalos]

Illegals and blacks? What in the world are you writing about? It has been my observation that only those who would ascribe a class of people as lesser, are those who drive class warfare. America is not about warfare, it is essentially about equality. Stop wasting cardboard and paint, and get on board and help!
Regards,
CP

i am advocating for equal protection of the law. we should be, "free riding" on privileges and immunities established by Persons of wealth.

 

[danielpalos]

This guy lives in a fake world designed by him to justify him and his opinions. Trust me, it's about Equality if he gets to define what equality is. Your party is based on looking at people as lesser. You can kid your self but people who can think know different . Should we look at your conservatives lesser list, Women, the poor , Muslims, Immigrants, Mexicans, teachers, government workers, veterans, the old , the needy, while your parties voice says he is sure there are good people in the KKK , the white supremacist and the Nazi party. Along with his grabbing the ***** of women he doesn't know, he says they like that kind of thing. You people are nothing but a noble group.Actually you are all sickening.

that is Your story, not my story.

 

[jbander]

that is Your story, not my story.

Funny and why would I care.

 

[jbander]

Geeez! For just a brief moment, I thought you were serious. A post like that is generally followed by LOL. Did you just forget that ?
Regards,
CP

How much respect do you think I should give your hate group you call a political party. You people have to go and that should be the only direction the the progressives should be working for, The dems have to drain the hate, you know drain the swamp.

 

[Maccabee]

How much respect do you think I should give your hate group you call a political party. You people have to go and that should be the only direction the the progressives should be working for, The dems have to drain the hate, you know drain the swamp.

When you start labeling people who don't agree with you as nazis, it may be time to take a deep look at yourself rather than pointing fingers.

 

[concernedpuma]

Here's the problem, your supporting a group that put a hate candidate into office , which makes you party a hate party. I'm reacting in this comment with the chart to the fact that all you people seem to offer is lies or total distortion of the fact and it's my opinion at this point that your hate party wouldn't exist without those lies and distortions. You put the biggest threat to my country in the most powerful seat in the world. You handed it over to a mentally ill monster. I hate all the enemies of my country. So tell me I shouldn't.

I completely reject the wholesale notion that our President is a hate monger, and that all Republicans are haters. It is distressing to see that Government resisters are gaining any traction using specious propaganda and oft repeated lies. Especially with reasonable people, as you appear.
That being said, in my opinion, you are right to hate those who would destroy our country. I certainly do.
Regards,
CP

 

[jbander]

When you start labeling people who don't agree with you as nazis, it may be time to take a deep look at yourself rather than pointing fingers.

Then you better look a little closer , because two years into the Nazi party organization compared to two years into the hate party organization and buddy you and your party are by far the winner of the hate competition. AS long as you follow the same program and plans of the Nazi party I will compare you and your hate group to it. If you don't like it go away.

 

[jbander]

I completely reject the wholesale notion that our President is a hate monger, and that all Republicans are haters. It is distressing to see that Government resisters are gaining any traction using specious propaganda and oft repeated lies. Especially with reasonable people, as you appear.
That being said, in my opinion, you are right to hate those who would destroy our country. I certainly do.
Regards,
CP

This is a hoot your Leader scum bag is not a hater you say , there has never in history been the match to your mentally ill hate monger God and leader President pile of ****.. There has been no time in history when any President has lied like your piece of **** God and leader does dailly. Lets look at grab them by the ***** hero of yours , he says women like to be grabbed by their *****. He wants to have sex with his Daughter and he said it was Ok to call his daughter a piece of ass. His ex wife said right in court that scum bag raped her. The wholesale is not a notion, your God and Hero is a hate driven ass hole like no one I've ever seen. It's simple, what do you call a party that elects a hate driven pile of **** mentally ill, lying scum bag. Yup the hate party. So yes you do belong to the hate party and you are this countries biggest threat and in my opinion it's biggest enemy, you sold out your county for hate and power. This country should never forget that and you have to be marked somehow so us patriots can watch you haters closely, to make sure you dn't try to destroy this country again.

 

[concernedpuma]

This is a hoot your Leader scum bag is not a hater you say , there has never in history been the match to your mentally ill hate monger God and leader President pile of ****.. There has been no time in history when any President has lied like your piece of **** God and leader does dailly. Lets look at grab them by the ***** hero of yours , he says women like to be grabbed by their *****. He wants to have sex with his Daughter and he said it was Ok to call his daughter a piece of ass. His ex wife said right in court that scum bag raped her. The wholesale is not a notion, your God and Hero is a hate driven ass hole like no one I've ever seen. It's simple, what do you call a party that elects a hate driven pile of **** mentally ill, lying scum bag. Yup the hate party. So yes you do belong to the hate party and you are this countries biggest threat and in my opinion it's biggest enemy, you sold out your county for hate and power. This country should never forget that and you have to be marked somehow so us patriots can watch you haters closely, to make sure you dn't try to destroy this country again.

Saw your post.
Regards, CP