Navy Pride
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What do you think?
What do you think?
Following President George W. Bush's victory over Senator John Kerry in the 2004 presidential election, conservative media rushed to declare that the election was a decisive mandate for Bush's agenda, and mainstream media outlets have followed their lead.
Their pronouncements echo Vice President Dick Cheney's November 3 claim that "President Bush ran forthrightly on a clear agenda for this nation's future and the nation responded by giving him a mandate." But such pronouncements neglect important facts that suggest Bush's narrow victory is far from a decisive endorsement of his agenda:
And he still won.
And he still won.
Yep, barely though. Like I said, a 51/49 split is hardly impressive. Fanboy.
That settles it. Obama has a mandate.
332/206 is not 51/49.
A win is a win. Sore Loser.
I'm not sore. I wish it had gone another way, but don't make it out to be a Reaganesque victory...it was not.
Ok, I was pretty much just clowning around anyway, hard to be funny on the internets. You did call me fanboy.
Ok fine. A win is a win. Get over it.
Popular vote was 51/49. You know this. The actual votes are more important than the electoral college.
I think this election with Obama being reelected along with the Republican House just tells me America doesn't know what the heck is going on. How does a congress with a 9% approval rating have an 80%+ reelection rate? It doesn't make any sense.
no, no its not.
the electoral college vote is what matters. Doesn't matter if a candidate gets 5% more in the popular vote, if he doesn't win enough electoral college votes, he ain't the president.
nothing like trying to change the actual constitution on the fly to ease the pain of losing.
The electoral college wins the election, I'll give you that. But when talking about a "mandate" we're talking about the will of the people. The will of the people is reflected best by the popular vote. 48 staes in the United States are all or nothing states. That means that in each of those states, a margin of one vote assigns the entirety of electoral votes for that state. Hardly something to beat your chest over.