Detroit Police Shoot Fleeing Black Suspect In The Back

[X Factor]

What is disingenuous about the posts you quoted? Each post pointed out that the criminal was armed and dangerous, so the police response was appropriate.

Have any of these people ever stood up for cops in any context or acknowledged there are many good cops? Have you? People still protested this shooting so don’t try to convince me these anti cop protesters are reasonable.

This does not fall under the narrative of police officers committing violence against unarmed Black Americans. I understand your frustration and anger toward those who will use it toward that narrative, resulting in a false narrative. In fact, I am pissed that people do the same because it detracts from the real narrative. The issue is that those you are targeting for that behavior in this thread do not seem to agree with that false narrative either.

When it’s put in terms of pointing a gun in the officers’ general vicinity, it’s pretty clear he doesn’t think much wrong was done by the guy.

 

[Xilnik]

Given how many people have been tarring all cops over the action of a very few, this is actually funny.



I rarely watch Fox but what I saw here were faaaarrr too many refuse to condemn the rioting and burning and assaults on police. Many, many, more totally excused the lack of social distancing when, in February, that was treated as one of the worst crimes ever.

I do not disagree with you on any of the above as far as propaganda or social distancing. I have been pretty consistent to point out that criminal behavior, regardless of the reason, should be condemned by those who really are peacefully protesting. My posts in this thread have been to point out that the rightwing media is also guilty of propaganda through the inconsistencies in terminology used to describe that criminal behavior. I do not believe peaceful protesters should be talked about in the same way as the rioters that come out at night; the only time to link the two is if there is evidence that someone participated in both, but that also means that the peaceful protesting was a ruse, and I would no longer associate those people with those who are protected under our constitution.

I have also said that people who were seen in protests violating state health ordinances should be tracked, fined, and quarantined. I do not believe arresting them on the spot is the right course of action because it leads to unrest within the groups and results in mob mentality, but issuing a subpoena or ticket against their behavior the next day seems appropriate.

 

[pocket aces]

The OP is trying to be clever, but as typical with most things Conservative, it didn't work.

 

[X Factor]

The OP is trying to be clever, but as typical with most things Conservative, it didn't work.

So what should the officers be charged with, you think?

 

[X Factor]

I do not disagree with you on any of the above as far as propaganda or social distancing. I have been pretty consistent to point out that criminal behavior, regardless of the reason, should be condemned by those who really are peacefully protesting. My posts in this thread have been to point out that the rightwing media is also guilty of propaganda through the inconsistencies in terminology used to describe that criminal behavior. I do not believe peaceful protesters should be talked about in the same way as the rioters that come out at night; the only time to link the two is if there is evidence that someone participated in both, but that also means that the peaceful protesting was a ruse, and I would no longer associate those people with those who are protected under our constitution.

I have also said that people who were seen in protests violating state health ordinances should be tracked, fined, and quarantined. I do not believe arresting them on the spot is the right course of action because it leads to unrest within the groups and results in mob mentality, but issuing a subpoena or ticket against their behavior the next day seems appropriate.

So here’s a question. Why are you supported the protesters of this shooting?

 

[Xilnik]

Have any of these people ever stood up for cops in any context or acknowledged there are many good cops? Have you? People still protested this shooting so don’t try to convince me these anti cop protesters are reasonable.

I have:

I do not support inciting violence against law enforcement either.

You are clearly not getting my point. I do not care if it is BLM or some random person on the street. No one should be chanting about killing police officers and encouraging people to do so. I disagree with that behavior. Not all police officers are bad people. Many do their jobs well and care about the communities they work in.

Even bad police officers deserve to have due process. Executing them through ambush tactics or in retaliation is essentially the same behavior BLM is supposed to stand against. Change the system to make sure police officers who commit heinous crimes are appropriately punished. Have them tried and convicted in a court of law that has no conflicts of interest, e.g. do not try them in a court with a judge who those same officers have helped with criminal cases in the past.

When it’s put in terms of pointing a gun in the officers’ general vicinity, it’s pretty clear he doesn’t think much wrong was done by the guy.

He said that he "guessed that [the criminal]" did point the gun in the officers' general vicinity after saying in an earlier post that if that was the case, the police response was warranted.

 

[Xilnik]

So here’s a question. Why are you supported the protesters of this shooting?

Who said I am supporting the protesters of this shooting (beyond their right to peacefully protest)? My posts about protesters were in support of peaceful protests of the George Floyd homicide while condemning rioters and looters.

 

[Schism]

I do not believe peaceful protesters should be talked about in the same way as the rioters that come out at night; the only time to link the two is if there is evidence that someone participated in both, but that also means that the peaceful protesting was a ruse, and I would no longer associate those people with those who are protected under our constitution.

The makeup of "peaceful protestors" and "rioters" and how they intersect probably looks something like this:

<----Peaceful protestors----|---------------------><------------------------|------Rioters----->

Standing right at the police line, screaming, pointing, making threatening gestures, attempting to provoke a reaction, ....is NOT protesting. it's simple assault.

Pushing, hitting, slapping, wrestling away from, throwing projectiles is NOT protesting. It's criminal behavior. I'm looking forward to all the CCTV evidence used to prosecute these people in the coming months.

Enjoy your riots for now. The bill will be collected later. Did you damage Federal Property? uh-oh.

 

[Mr Person]

I have no idea if this link is going to work or not since it goes to a FaceBook video of a Detroit PD press conference.

Anyway, Detroit cops pull up and start to arrest some guy who was just standing there doing nothing. The guy's buddy IMMEDIATELY puts his hands straight in the air and then, as the cop start to pay attention to him, he turns and flees but the cops blow him away. What else could this kid have done? He put his hands up. He tried to leave the area. Then the cops shot him because he's black. It's no wonder we have riots.

Chief Craig gives an update regarding... - Detroit Police Department

What is the point of this thread? This has nothing to do with cops killing innocent people. Do you think that all black people should be shot down because some are criminals.

Lutherf thinks dead black people are funny.

Floyd's death, to him, was no more than an excuse to lie/rant about "the left" while telling and endlessly series of "hilarious jokes" about dead black people. Same with COVID deaths. That's it. Just look at his posting history.




This thread isn't about him pointing out - not that anyone said otherwise - that sometimes, police might legitimately discharge their weapons at a person. It's an opportunity for Lutherf to tell a hilarious joke and also lie about what it is that the protests are about.

With Trumpism, the ugliness is the point.

 

[Mr Person]

Have any of these people ever stood up for cops in any context or acknowledged there are many good cops? Have you? People still protested this shooting so don’t try to convince me these anti cop protesters are reasonable.
When it’s put in terms of pointing a gun in the officers’ general vicinity, it’s pretty clear he doesn’t think much wrong was done by the guy.

Do you ever do anything but lie about what people say in order to call them hypocrites, then try to score points by demanding they disprove your lies?

Where did you ever get the idea that lying about something means the other person has to disprove your lie, else it is true?

 

[jimbo]

LOL. Sure. Are you also tired of watching the millions of videos of peaceful police encounters, rescues, motorist assistance, wife beaters arrested, gang assaults, cops shot and injured, hostage situations, etc?

I'll bet you haven't watched anything that might disrupt the narrative .



He pointed it right at the officers head from about 3 feet away and pulled the trigger, but missed.

And of course you don't want to see it. Can't have any doubts about the liberal narrative.

I'd bet he did. Then claimed he didn't since it didn't fit the narrative.

 

[X Factor]

Who said I am supporting the protesters of this shooting (beyond their right to peacefully protest)? My posts about protesters were in support of peaceful protests of the George Floyd homicide while condemning rioters and looters.

Officers were injured by things that were being thrown at them so yeah, not so peaceful.

 

[Lutherf]

Lutherf thinks dead black people are funny.

Floyd's death, to him, was no more than an excuse to lie/rant about "the left" while telling and endlessly series of "hilarious jokes" about dead black people. Same with COVID deaths. That's it. Just look at his posting history.




This thread isn't about him pointing out - not that anyone said otherwise - that sometimes, police might legitimately discharge their weapons at a person. It's an opportunity for Lutherf to tell a hilarious joke and also lie about what it is that the protests are about.

With Trumpism, the ugliness is the point.

Damn it, man! I've been paying you to write GOOD explanations of what I write but you keep messing it up. I'm starting to think that someone else is paying you more to go around "explaining" stuff incorrectly. If I find out that's true I'm going to have to let you go. Please don't sue me if I have to fire you.

 

[Xilnik]

Officers were injured by things that were being thrown at them so yeah, not so peaceful.

I never said all protests were peaceful or lawful, but it is possible to call them unlawful protests instead of just protests. The lack of a qualifier I view as intentional propaganda. There were several peaceful protests here in Denver with protesters acting out the last 8-9 minutes of George Floyd's life, showing solidarity and understanding about the reason for the protests. The police worked with the protesters to try to weed out criminal elements and prevent later riot behavior, and the cooperation between the police and the protesters did seem to reduce the amount of looting, violence, and vandalism on subsequent nights.

Propagating the view that all protesters are violent and doing damage to businesses is not much different than propagating all police officers are evil and cannot be trusted. It is hypocritical to condemn one while condoning the other, in either direction.

 

[Lutherf]

The OP is trying to be clever, but as typical with most things Conservative, it didn't work.

I think it's working out just fine so far.

Bat**** crazy lefties are totally ignoring the facts that have been presented and trying to justify their commitment to the PROPAGANDA that the social media clowns pitched their way.

Face it, a HUGE percentage of the outrage at cops is based on EXACTLY the kid of bias I posted in the OP and a HUGE percentage of moonbats that like nothing better to find reasons to hate police, Trump supporters and everyone else that disagrees with them buy into this kind of crap every single time. The Democrat party is BUILT on this kind of crap.

There is a silver lining in all this. I checked out the #hakeemlittleton twitter thread and WAY more people seem to be backing away from the hysteria than are buying into it. The more you commie propagandists push dissent and hatred the more Americans start to question whether or not you deserve to be believed.

 

[X Factor]

Lutherf thinks dead black people are funny.

Floyd's death, to him, was no more than an excuse to lie/rant about "the left" while telling and endlessly series of "hilarious jokes" about dead black people. Same with COVID deaths. That's it. Just look at his posting history.




This thread isn't about him pointing out - not that anyone said otherwise - that sometimes, police might legitimately discharge their weapons at a person. It's an opportunity for Lutherf to tell a hilarious joke and also lie about what it is that the protests are about.

With Trumpism, the ugliness is the point.

Please, you wouldn’t give a **** if this was about a dead cop so stuff your faux outrage. It is funny that even with the video, the most you could painfully bring yourself to say is this this “might” have been a justified shooting. So, between you and Phys, the guy only pointed a gun at the general vicinity of officers (because who doesn’t do that a couple time a day) and “that sometimes, police might legitimately discharge their weapons at a person,” though who can really be certain in this case.

 

[Schism]

Lutherf thinks dead black people are funny.

Floyd's death, to him, was no more than an excuse to lie/rant about "the left" while telling and endlessly series of "hilarious jokes" about dead black people. Same with COVID deaths. That's it. Just look at his posting history.




This thread isn't about him pointing out - not that anyone said otherwise - that sometimes, police might legitimately discharge their weapons at a person. It's an opportunity for Lutherf to tell a hilarious joke and also lie about what it is that the protests are about.

With Trumpism, the ugliness is the point.

Do you ever do anything but lie about what people say in order to call them hypocrites, then try to score points by demanding they disprove your lies?

Where did you ever get the idea that lying about something means the other person has to disprove your lie, else it is true?

Poster never debates or argues subject matter, but instead attacks people, imagines their thoughts, builds straw men, and gaslights.

All trollish behaviors and indicative of a superiority complex; pretends to be an insider forum authority.

 

[Good4Nothin]

No, the police should never use deadly force. Because black people are only acting violent because of white systems of oppression

Blacks should be allowed to kill whites whenever they feel like it. Their anger is justified.

 

[Good4Nothin]

this is b.s. no black man should have to fear his life just because hes breaking the law and fighting with police and hurting innocent people

Amen to that. People of blackness should be above the law. We stole this country from them.

 

[Da Mole]

this is b.s. no black man should have to fear his life just because hes breaking the law and fighting with police and hurting innocent people

WTF are you saying?????????????? He should be given a pat on the back for such behavior?

 

[Good4Nothin]

WTF are you saying?????????????? He should be given a pat on the back for such behavior?

Absolutely. We stole this country from people of blackness, and from people of American Indianness. We have NO RIGHT TO BE HERE. We have no right to expect them to obey our laws. Our laws are illegal.

 

[Citizen]

Except that this will be included in the number of black people getting killed by police in your attempts to claim cops are racist murderers, won’t it?

The number is about Unarmed black men

 

[Citizen]

All black people aren't being shot down . Look at the prison populations. Many end up there.

Yeah many end up there for no reason

 

[Roadvirus]

Police video of fatal shooting shows victim fired on cops


Looks like there were shot(s) fired at the police????

He shot at police, so he automatically lost his right to be taken in alive.

 

[Rexedgar]

He shot at police, so he automatically lost his right to be taken in alive.

OK, what point are you trying to make?